Were are the Android fans this morning? Show us how these numbers are wrong. Tell us again how much better Android is and how the iPhone is second rate. .......... (Silence)
And as soon as iPhone hit the floor, Android was left standing by the wall...
Now before the Androids get all lathered up and frisky, I supported Android development right up to the point they were bought out by Google. The mobile OS is fine and has nice features, but Google sold it to the handset makers and carriers - and no I'm not going to trot out my "tarted up and on the street-corner" analogy, because I've made that point already.
Google is a one-trick pony, and they are desperate. Even if ChromeOS goes live and eventually supplants Android, they are still too focussed in the search/ad model and they will fall to the next great search algorithm. There are a lot of ex-Google folks out there, including members of the original dev team - and Google is losing search integrity as more and more webdevs figure out how to game the system. This means there is a large talent pool well-equiped to challenge Google. If Andy Rubin is smart he will offer to buy-out Google's interest in Android and drive it independent - that is the only way it can remain viable in the longterm. The longer Google spends undiversified, the greater the impact of the next search engine will be - and Google will jettison all cost centers to keep viable and Android is one of them.
Funny - I haven't seen any Verizon Android ads recently - has anyone else?
Considering how competitive Android phones have become, this is kind of weird. What's the big deal about the iPhone compared with them?
It's been on AT&T for so long, and for my friends living close to DC or in it, they complain endlessly about AT&T, while everyone with Verizon boasts like jerks.
BUT, out here away from the city, AT&T is the best choice in terms of service strength. They just have the 2GB data cap.
It really is a great phone paired with a great network paired with hype.
The previous first day release record was around 100,000 phones. They said they broke that record by 5 AM and continued selling through to 8PM. If they had 50,000 phones per hour in the first 2 hours, and the rate continued the same throughout the day, that's 850,000 phones.
I'd guess that's a pretty accurate number.
Oh, and this pre-release garbage wasn't a reward for existing customers. It was simply a test release so Verizon could see how their servers reacted when getting pounded with orders. They held up pretty well, but you know they are making some quick changes for the 'real' release next week.
The previous first day release record was around 100,000 phones. They said they broke that record by 5 AM and continued selling through to 8PM. If they had 50,000 phones per hour in the first 2 hours, and the rate continued the same throughout the day, that's 850,000 phones.
I'd guess that's a pretty accurate number.
Oh, and this pre-release garbage wasn't a reward for existing customers. It was simply a test release so Verizon could see how their servers reacted when getting pounded with orders. They held up pretty well, but you know they are making some quick changes for the 'real' release next week.
It would probably be more than that actually, as more people wake up and order...
How about stock implosion...For RIM. They won't release the numbers of sales because
that would allow analysts to deduce how much BB and Android sales will have fallen off.
Actually RIM is doing well in the stock market, I heard that AT&T locked up a number of customer with new RIM products for the next 2 yrs, so as VZ was cutting their demand for other manufacturers phones and shocking up on iphone. AT&T and other carries were buying since the VZ was pissing off RIM and other manufacturers.
I got an issue yesterday with a blurb about "hot new smartphones" on the front... A quick scan showed no mention of the iPhone on Verizon. What did I expect?
To be fair it's not a hot new phone, it's a 7month old phone rehashed to work on CDMA.
The previous first day release record was around 100,000 phones. They said they broke that record by 5 AM and continued selling through to 8PM. If they had 50,000 phones per hour in the first 2 hours, and the rate continued the same throughout the day, that's 850,000 phones.
I'd guess that's a pretty accurate number.
Oh, and this pre-release garbage wasn't a reward for existing customers. It was simply a test release so Verizon could see how their servers reacted when getting pounded with orders. They held up pretty well, but you know they are making some quick changes for the 'real' release next week.
What is your reference/source for the previous first day record for Verizon? I don't remember them releasing any specific numbers. The only number here is the Droid as mentioned in the article:
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For comparison, the Motorola Droid, when it launched in 2009, was estimated to have sold 100,000 in its first weekend
and that was a weekend not one day. I think 100k to 150k preorder is reasonable. Remember that AT&T preorders were around 600k when the iPhone 4 was new device. Verizon preorder is also limited to existing customers. I think Apple and Verizon are careful here due to lack of historical iPhone sales data.
In the U.S., all phones end up costing about the same, so people figure they might as well get the best.
Places like here in China, the monthly service is dirt cheap and you pay the real price for the phone, so most people opt to save money and get an Android.
3 people in our NY office with AT&T iPhones want to switch immediatedly becuase everytime we step into an elevator the calls drop- not so for our Verizon co-workers. An AT&T iPhone simply will not maintain a call in an elevator.
Comments
Pretty soon people will realize that there is no physical keyboard on the iPhone and they will stop buying these things.
Yours truly,
Steve Ballmer
Pretty soon people will realize that it not open and they will stop buying these things.
Yours Truly
Google
Pretty soon people will realize that it is not secure and they will stop buying these things.
Yours Truly
BB (morons)
Pretty soon people will realize that they can't root the phone and they will stop buying these things.
Yours Truly
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Now before the Androids get all lathered up and frisky, I supported Android development right up to the point they were bought out by Google. The mobile OS is fine and has nice features, but Google sold it to the handset makers and carriers - and no I'm not going to trot out my "tarted up and on the street-corner" analogy, because I've made that point already.
Google is a one-trick pony, and they are desperate. Even if ChromeOS goes live and eventually supplants Android, they are still too focussed in the search/ad model and they will fall to the next great search algorithm. There are a lot of ex-Google folks out there, including members of the original dev team - and Google is losing search integrity as more and more webdevs figure out how to game the system. This means there is a large talent pool well-equiped to challenge Google. If Andy Rubin is smart he will offer to buy-out Google's interest in Android and drive it independent - that is the only way it can remain viable in the longterm. The longer Google spends undiversified, the greater the impact of the next search engine will be - and Google will jettison all cost centers to keep viable and Android is one of them.
Funny - I haven't seen any Verizon Android ads recently - has anyone else?
Considering how competitive Android phones have become, this is kind of weird. What's the big deal about the iPhone compared with them?
It's been on AT&T for so long, and for my friends living close to DC or in it, they complain endlessly about AT&T, while everyone with Verizon boasts like jerks.
BUT, out here away from the city, AT&T is the best choice in terms of service strength. They just have the 2GB data cap.
It really is a great phone paired with a great network paired with hype.
I'd guess that's a pretty accurate number.
Oh, and this pre-release garbage wasn't a reward for existing customers. It was simply a test release so Verizon could see how their servers reacted when getting pounded with orders. They held up pretty well, but you know they are making some quick changes for the 'real' release next week.
The previous first day release record was around 100,000 phones. They said they broke that record by 5 AM and continued selling through to 8PM. If they had 50,000 phones per hour in the first 2 hours, and the rate continued the same throughout the day, that's 850,000 phones.
I'd guess that's a pretty accurate number.
Oh, and this pre-release garbage wasn't a reward for existing customers. It was simply a test release so Verizon could see how their servers reacted when getting pounded with orders. They held up pretty well, but you know they are making some quick changes for the 'real' release next week.
It would probably be more than that actually, as more people wake up and order...
How about stock implosion...For RIM. They won't release the numbers of sales because
that would allow analysts to deduce how much BB and Android sales will have fallen off.
As long as no one gets the bright idea to do an iOS spin off. Hope the Board rejects the succession plan proposal by the way.
How about stock implosion...For RIM. They won't release the numbers of sales because
that would allow analysts to deduce how much BB and Android sales will have fallen off.
Actually RIM is doing well in the stock market, I heard that AT&T locked up a number of customer with new RIM products for the next 2 yrs, so as VZ was cutting their demand for other manufacturers phones and shocking up on iphone. AT&T and other carries were buying since the VZ was pissing off RIM and other manufacturers.
I got an issue yesterday with a blurb about "hot new smartphones" on the front... A quick scan showed no mention of the iPhone on Verizon. What did I expect?
To be fair it's not a hot new phone, it's a 7month old phone rehashed to work on CDMA.
The previous first day release record was around 100,000 phones. They said they broke that record by 5 AM and continued selling through to 8PM. If they had 50,000 phones per hour in the first 2 hours, and the rate continued the same throughout the day, that's 850,000 phones.
I'd guess that's a pretty accurate number.
Oh, and this pre-release garbage wasn't a reward for existing customers. It was simply a test release so Verizon could see how their servers reacted when getting pounded with orders. They held up pretty well, but you know they are making some quick changes for the 'real' release next week.
What is your reference/source for the previous first day record for Verizon? I don't remember them releasing any specific numbers. The only number here is the Droid as mentioned in the article:
For comparison, the Motorola Droid, when it launched in 2009, was estimated to have sold 100,000 in its first weekend
and that was a weekend not one day. I think 100k to 150k preorder is reasonable. Remember that AT&T preorders were around 600k when the iPhone 4 was new device. Verizon preorder is also limited to existing customers. I think Apple and Verizon are careful here due to lack of historical iPhone sales data.
Sounds like the Microsoft Kin launch. Oops, sorry. Sales exceeded the Kin launch in the first 2 seconds.
First two seconds? I think you mean the first person who clicked beat their sales.
Stock split anyone?
Perhaps Apple will do a Berkshire Hathaway and ride the stock into the tens of thousands. ( Currently ~ $124,000 ! )
It will be a statement in itself and owning 1 stock will be as much a status symbol as owning a Mac.
( Like Berkshire, they will have to make a parallel stock device at 1,000th value to give to employees ).
Places like here in China, the monthly service is dirt cheap and you pay the real price for the phone, so most people opt to save money and get an Android.
Just another phone.
Just more profit for Apple.
Blah, blah, blah, iphone numbers means its best, blah, blah, McDonald's cheese burgers.
In a Homer Simpson voice...
Mmmmmm... Cheeseburgers....
I'll stay out of the numbers game, although it would have been nice if Verizon and or Apple announced, then all the speculation going on here.
But nice to hear Verizon is breaking some records.
I doubt there were only 100,000 pre-orders available if they went 17 hours before going out of stock. My guess would be more like 500,000.
I was thinking the same thing. 17 hours could be a cool mil even