Moved: My chat with two Creationists

fellowship

I had the privilege today to meet and talk to Both Dr. Carl Baugh and Dr. Duane Gish



Dr. Gish gave a lecture that tore apart macroevolution on every facet. Very stimulating information.



Below Me on the left Dr. Gish center Dr. Baugh right







Below looking over artifacts:





Link for info on Dr. Gish:

<a href="http://www.icr.org/creationscientists/biologicalscientists.html"; target="_blank">www.icr.org</a>



Link for info on Dr. Baugh:

<a href="http://www.creationevidence.org/"; target="_blank">www.creationevidence.org</a>



Some of the topics discussed during the lecture in conjunction with powerpoint presentation were the following:



finches

peppered moth

other jokes used by evolutionists

2nd law of thermodynamics

UV rays

ozone

atmosphere

irreducible complexity



various other topics that SLAM evolution



Very good speech by Dr. Gish



I welcome your questions and or comments



Fellowship



BTW

<a href="http://www.icr.org/headlines/rennie.html"; target="_blank">Check This Out!</a>



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groverat

Wow, you got to meet THE Reverend Christopher Lowell from New Hope Ministries!?







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fellowship

[quote]Originally posted by groverat:

<strong>Wow, you got to meet THE Reverend Christopher Lowell from New Hope Ministries!?







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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA That was funny!



btw thanks for derailing the thread on the very first reply.... But hey what are mods for..



LOL!



Fellowship



As far as what forum to post in hell... I never seem to get it right or I get banned one...



I like all the correcting from the police here



Love it... what would we do without you..



Hey.. If you can Joke I can Joke...



Sad thing there may be some substance behind my joke.



Fellowship

groverat

Fireside Chat is for arguments and/or discussions.



You didn't make an argument, you talked about a meeting you went to. If you want to discuss creationism v. evolution make an argument.



And, actually, mods are here to make sure things are posted in the right place, so your "joke" is odd. Maybe you just have a weird sense of humor.

fellowship

[quote]Originally posted by groverat:

<strong>Fireside Chat is for arguments and/or discussions.



You didn't make an argument, you talked about a meeting you went to. If you want to discuss creationism v. evolution make an argument.



And, actually, mods are here to make sure things are posted in the right place, so your "joke" is odd. Maybe you just have a weird sense of humor. </strong><hr></blockquote>



Fair enough...



Still learning...



Surely you don't watch that freak on cable...



Ok today we will make cakes...



and a skirt around your bed



LOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!



You started it... got me laughing here...



Fellowship

ryanthegreat

Hmm... I forgot how fun this board was. Perhaps its time to end my hiatus.

falcon

Care to say what 'evidence' they used?





BTW: Christopher Lowell is teh man. His show is addicting.



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brussell

A proud day in the life of a young creationist!



hmm, 'creationist' isn't a word according to the OS X spell checker...

fellowship

[quote]Originally posted by Falcon:

<strong>Care to say what 'evidence' they used?

</strong><hr></blockquote>





Just debunked all the evolutionists bunk.



Put things into better perspective.



You would have to see the lecture



It was a hoot.



What those nuts will believe in order to avoid having to believe in a creator...



Sad really...



Stupid really...



Fellowship

fellowship

[quote]Originally posted by BRussell:

<strong>A proud day in the life of a young creationist!



hmm, 'creationist' isn't a word according to the OS X spell checker...</strong><hr></blockquote>



In case you haven't noticed BRussell we are not exactly accepted for our ideas...



so why would a spell checker accept us?



hahahahaha

majormatt

[quote]What those nuts will believe in order to avoid having to believe in a creator...



Sad really...



Stupid really...<hr></blockquote>



Fellowship, I respect your beliefs, as do I respect other religions. However, calling anyone else nuts or stupid for not holding your same beliefs is unjustified.

ryanthegreat

[quote]Originally posted by FellowshipChurch iBook:

<strong>



In case you haven't noticed BRussell we are not exactly accepted for our ideas...

</strong><hr></blockquote>

With good reason, most would think. But I appear to be walking into fireside chat territory.

nebagakid

[quote]Originally posted by MajorMatt:

<strong>



Fellowship, I respect your beliefs, as do I respect other religions. However, calling anyone else nuts or stupid for not holding your same beliefs is unjustified.</strong><hr></blockquote>



Totally agree, you must be ...ignorant for not being able to respect other people's beliefs! <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />

brokenphone

[quote]Originally posted by MajorMatt:

<strong>



Fellowship, I respect your beliefs, as do I respect other religions. However, calling anyone else nuts or stupid for not holding your same beliefs is unjustified.</strong><hr></blockquote>



Beat me to it.



Fellowship, calling evolutionists stupid and sad without backing it up is hypocritical, afterall, you are calling them that because you believe they present an argument without stating any facts.



here are some facts:



<a href="http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/science/08/15/coolsc.speech/index.html"; target="_blank">Genetics</a>



<a href="http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/history/evolution.html"; target="_blank">Evolutionary thought</a>



Just a couple, I'm lazy.. And also feeling very cool at home on Saturday..



My own personal belief is that God did not create man in his image, man created God in their image. Whatever

scott

[quote]Originally posted by groverat:

<strong>Fireside Chat is for arguments and/or discussions.



You didn't make an argument, you talked about a meeting you went to. If you want to discuss creationism v. evolution make an argument.



And, actually, mods are here to make sure things are posted in the right place, so your "joke" is odd. Maybe you just have a weird sense of humor. </strong><hr></blockquote>





Well at the top of the page it says.



[quote]Political and Religious threads now belong in Fireside Chat.<hr></blockquote>



So .... <img src="confused.gif" border="0">

groverat

So... send me or some of the other mods an e-mail, bright boy.



Remember those posting guideline thingies?

seb

Are these the guys who in a previous life exiled Galileo and burned Giordano Bruno at the stake for daring to suggest that the Sun didn't revolve around the Earth, and that just maybe man wasn't the center of God's universe?



Quick, save the pygmies from going to hell, convert them to christianity!



I just don't understand why religion always fears and tries to 'debunk' proven science. Wait, maybe it's because they can't prove religion, so let's try to disprove science??



eh, no worry, someday the 'one true god' will come down and take all of the good guy spirits up to heaven and leave a bunch of empty cars stranded on the highway for the bad guys to tow away, right?

scott

[quote]Originally posted by groverat:

<strong>So... send me or some of the other mods an e-mail, bright boy.



Remember those posting guideline thingies?</strong><hr></blockquote>



Ohhhh. Threats from a mod. Charge me with a <a href="http://www.snpp.com/episodes/BABF02"; target="_blank">317</a>. Pointing out moderator stupidity Or is that a 315?



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seb

Okay, I just visited that Carl Baugh's website. Too funny. He's actually saying that dinosaurs and man lived at the same time! That's rich. <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />



He's probably making some good money off of it though. Selling lots of books and stuff there.



This picture just kills me:







Love the bearded white guy - too fitting.



Check this out fellowship - it's a website that answers some of the questions posed on Baugh's website. Unlike Baugh's, it doesn't ask for money, but it's pretty reliable.

<a href="http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/ask_astro/answers/971108a.html"; target="_blank">http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/ask_astro/answers/971108a.html</a>;



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groverat

[quote]Originally posted by seb:

<strong>Love the bearded white guy - too fitting.</strong><hr></blockquote>



Ain't it just?



Debate by proxy, an interesting new development in internet discussion.

groverat

On a more on-topic note:



FShip looks very big.

I am going to be extra nice to him now so he doesn't smite me.