So now I'm looking at getting a Mazda Tribute, actually.<hr></blockquote>
You broke your own rule-- number 2, I believe.
I like Mazdas-- I once toured their plant in Hiroshima, and they impressed me.
I would still vote for the Passat, though, but not for reasons that are valid to you. My vote is for any car that can travel 100+ mph for hours at a time.
<strong>PS. Liberty's tip more than they should.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Last time I researched this they didn't tip any more than did the Toyota Land Cruiser - or maybe it was the 4Runner... I don't know... Toyota has so many SUVs. It's hard to keep track of all of them... Anyway, neither the Jeep nor the Toyota scored very well but they also didn't score appreciably worse than other SUVs. SUVs as a class tip more than do passenger cars because of their higher center of gravity.
How do you figure? I can't break my own rules when they don't apply to ME! <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
Oh-- okay. I just found it humorous to say: "tell me which of these cars I should buy," and then say say: "thanks, but I'll get something completely different."
Still, it sounds like a good choice for you. Good luck.
Fact remains that last year two auto mags tipped them in a standard test. Those same mags did not report tipping other SUVs. Now we hear that Chyrsler has quietly dropped the ride height by an inch from the origial model, I wonder why? You can make the argument that SUV's need to be driven differently, and that emergency manouvers are not in their repetoire, and I think that's at least partially valid, but most people drive these things on the road in regular traffic situations. When other SUV's tip, you hear about it, when Mercedes' original A-class rolled the 'Moose' test, we heard about it, when the Honday/Isuzu SUV's of a few years back rolled, we heard about that, and Ford Explorer is it the truck or is it the tire fiasco, we heard about that too. In the year the Jeep Liberty came out I don't think the automobile press reported rolling any other SUVs in standard testing.
To be fair, it was the 2wd model that was tipped, so between a ride height drop and a AWD system, it might now be just as stable as any other SUV. It is, however, still the slowest SUV through the slalom. Not very agile, even in that company.
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Oh-- okay. I just found it humorous to say: "tell me which of these cars I should buy," and then say say: "thanks, but I'll get something completely different."
Still, it sounds like a good choice for you. Good luck.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yeah, when it comes to my car options, things changed and this thread is no longer valid, really.
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So now I'm looking at getting a Mazda Tribute, actually.<hr></blockquote>
You broke your own rule-- number 2, I believe.
I like Mazdas-- I once toured their plant in Hiroshima, and they impressed me.
I would still vote for the Passat, though, but not for reasons that are valid to you. My vote is for any car that can travel 100+ mph for hours at a time.
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You broke your own rule-- number 2, I believe.</strong><hr></blockquote>
How do you figure? I can't break my own rules when they don't apply to ME!
<strong>PS. Liberty's tip more than they should.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Last time I researched this they didn't tip any more than did the Toyota Land Cruiser - or maybe it was the 4Runner... I don't know... Toyota has so many SUVs. It's hard to keep track of all of them... Anyway, neither the Jeep nor the Toyota scored very well but they also didn't score appreciably worse than other SUVs. SUVs as a class tip more than do passenger cars because of their higher center of gravity.
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How do you figure? I can't break my own rules when they don't apply to ME!
Oh-- okay. I just found it humorous to say: "tell me which of these cars I should buy," and then say say: "thanks, but I'll get something completely different."
Still, it sounds like a good choice for you. Good luck.
To be fair, it was the 2wd model that was tipped, so between a ride height drop and a AWD system, it might now be just as stable as any other SUV. It is, however, still the slowest SUV through the slalom. Not very agile, even in that company.
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Oh-- okay. I just found it humorous to say: "tell me which of these cars I should buy," and then say say: "thanks, but I'll get something completely different."
Still, it sounds like a good choice for you. Good luck.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yeah, when it comes to my car options, things changed and this thread is no longer valid, really.