What the hell is "130p" and "530a" ? Are we seriously supposed to start describing time that way now?
First we lost "noon" and "midnight," then it was all the "rds" and "ths" from dates, now we are too lazy to even write PM and AM? Maybe we should all start chewing on lead paint and forget how to read and write altogether.
What the hell is "130p" and "530a" ? Are we seriously supposed to start describing time that way now?
First we lost "noon" and "midnight," then it was all the "rds" and "ths" from dates, now we are too lazy to even write PM and AM? Maybe we should all start chewing on lead paint and forget how to read and write altogether.
What the hell is AM and PM? Oh, yeah, it's that ancient system the americans use....
What the hell is "130p" and "530a" ? Are we seriously supposed to start describing time that way now?
First we lost "noon" and "midnight," then it was all the "rds" and "ths" from dates, now we are too lazy to even write PM and AM? Maybe we should all start chewing on lead paint and forget how to read and write altogether.
I find it oddly appropriate that the "professor" called me on this.
It's my preference.
if you'll excuse me, I have to go now; that lead paint won't chew itself.
I love the idea that they might be extending magsafe connections to data though. Apple invents so many fantastic things and patents them all but for the most part they get screwed over and copied. The magsafe connection is so unique, no one else will be able to (legally) do it and it will be nice to see Apple get ahead on it's own IP and to not have it's ideas stolen for a change. I hope they *don't* licence it to anyone at all.
do you know how long the patents last? (how long apple retains exclusive rights to its IP) i've tried to find out before but had no success. an answer would be much appreciated.
do you know how long the patents last? (how long apple retains exclusive rights to its IP) i've tried to find out before but had no success. an answer would be much appreciated.
As far as I know a patent is valid for 20 years from the date it was filed.
do you know how long the patents last? (how long apple retains exclusive rights to its IP) i've tried to find out before but had no success. an answer would be much appreciated.
14-20 years. And it took me 14-20 seconds to find the answer with a Google search of 'how long do patents last?'
14-20 years. And it took me 14-20 seconds to find the answer with a Google search of 'how long do patents last?'
Sorry, but couldn't resist :P
haha, i feel a bit foolish thanks for the responses, i'm surprised they last so long. it's good to know apple is going to reap so much benefit from its innovations. it'll be much less frustrating now watching apple's many imitators knowing that they can only get away with so much.
haha, i feel a bit foolish thanks for the responses, i'm surprised they last so long. it's good to know apple is going to reap so much benefit from its innovations. it'll be much less frustrating now watching apple's many imitators knowing that they can only get away with so much.
Alas the past 10 years have been a morass of patent litigation. It's not always clear what a patent will actually mean on the ground these days. MagSafe may be patented but it'd be interesting to see what would actually happen if someone decided to create their magnetic power cord. It's such a simple idea, it might not be a safe patent (I'm no lawyer, just pondering). To take it to the nth degree (I thought I'd best leave the 'th' in there as I have chewed all my lead for the day), you couldn't really patent the wheel because it's just too obvious.
I'd personally love to see a MagSafe data solution. I find FW800 cables very touchy, slightest knock and my Mac loses the drive. USB is very firm but therein lies the problem MagSafe is designed to solve.
One thing I can't help but wonder about LightPeak is...well...how needed is it on the consumer/'prosumer' level? Data overheads for even the highest quality 1080p video are way under the 480Mbps of USB2. It's undoubtedly superior technology but I just wonder what class of new accessory would it actually unlock that isn't already possible. I can only see two real-world uses for it; connection of multiple devices into a hub to be connected to the mac via a single LightPeak cable and the connection of a future solid state external hard disk. That's a very juicy idea, but nobody's really being held up by their data transfer speeds are they? 100MB/s too slow for you on your FW800?
haha, i feel a bit foolish thanks for the responses, i'm surprised they last so long. it's good to know apple is going to reap so much benefit from its innovations. it'll be much less frustrating now watching apple's many imitators knowing that they can only get away with so much.
Just incidentally, Apple filed the MagSafe patent in September 2005, so it's already 5.5 years into the 14-20 years. Time flies!
Just incidentally, Apple filed the MagSafe patent in September 2005, so it's already 5.5 years into the 14-20 years. Time flies!
well at least that's still a long time to leave the competition in the lurch i like the idea of the power hub being able to handle any and all needs. but, it would also be nice to have a more universal, future proof, port that is so versatile. it would be cool if we could see it in action with the mystery port from the reputed iPad 2 cases.
Does anyone know the affect that Light Peak will have on present USB and Firewire equipment, e.g., printers, external drives, speakers, electronic piano, flash drives. Or an external monitor? Thanks. Rick
I believe the talk around here is that the mag safe would have a brick that acted as a hub for your standard connections. The mag safe would be the only wire plugged into the laptop. Your peripherals would plug into the hub.
So we're finally going back to having our peripheral cables on the floor? That's where my power bricks all are. While that's an awesome arrangement for a desktop that never moves it's less than ideal for a mobile computer. I can just see guys in expensive suits crawling around under their desks disconnecting all their peripherals so they can take their power brick with them to a meeting.
Magsafe is designed to disconnect at the slightest bump (a good thing.) USB drives that are in the middle of being written to do not like to be disconnected. You get a warning from OS X every time you disconnect. Wonder how they'll resolve this one?
Depends what filesystem you have. DONT use fat, always use a journaled file system. Yes even on USB-drives like USB-sticks.
As a sidenote to this I use NTFS on sticks for cross compatibility. Paradox NTFS driver for my macs (they changed name to NTFS for mac). Works without a hickup.
I am most eager to start investigating the read and write speeds that this might make available for external storage devices. I suppose that external enclosures will have to catch up before we start seeing suitable external devices.
At the moment I have 2 Sata2 drives connected to my MBP, anything better than that and more convenient than that will be awesome beyond belief.
Also would like to see this on iMac in future - I'ld get an iMac if it had this - FW and USB is just not good enough for HD video.
Back in 2008, there was a lot of clamor for an "upgradeable" box from Apple that was cheaper than the Mac Pro. Also, there was a significant delay in releasing the updated Mac Mini. At that time, there was some speculation in the market that Apple would do "upgradeable right" - and come out with a stackable Mac Mini, which would allow components to be purchased and added at any point in time, with a proprietary bus architecture allowing all these components to interface with the main system at extremely high speeds.
However, back then such a bus architecture did not exist - because Intel had not yet released LightPeak. The spec was ready, but the commercial implementation was not ready. So Apple went ahead and released the Mac Mini - smaller, sleeker, and unibody. And Apple backed away from a proprietary standard, because of the costs, and adoption issues with such a standard.
Now that LightPeak is ready, the next iteration of the Mac Mini will be a comprehensive upgrade - should allow Apple to release a stackable Mini, where each component can be upgraded independent of the others - for instance, you can dynamically add hard disk space, graphics cards, audio cards, TV Tuner cards, etc. to the system - without having to open the box.
Apple is likely to license this to interested third party vendors, so that we will see an entire ecosystem of components that can be used to extend the functionality of your computer. Of course, there will be very strict specs on appearance, dimensions, electrical standards, etc - to maintain a streamlined look across all these components.
Intel's implementation of LightPeak would be 10Gbps over cable, while Apple will likely target 100Gbps - because there will not be any long cables - these components will be hardware interlocked to each other, so there wont be the same issues that Intel has to deal with over cables, etc. While the basic LightPeak technology would be licensed from Intel, Apple's proprietary connector would be specifically licensed directly from Apple.
This is also one of the reasons why Apple removed the external power brick and moved it inside the Mac Mini. This would allow AC power to be daisy chained to all the components directly across the same hardware connector - and so there wont be any external power cables, bricks, etc.
Would be the best possible implementation of an upgradeable computer, and even your grandma would find it easy to upgrade such a system. And Apple would still be able to retain its margins because all the components would involve a licensing fee to Apple.
This is the sort of model that can destroy the PC industry as it exists currently! Of course, such an implementation would be massively patent protected by Apple.
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What the hell is "130p" and "530a" ? Are we seriously supposed to start describing time that way now?
First we lost "noon" and "midnight," then it was all the "rds" and "ths" from dates, now we are too lazy to even write PM and AM? Maybe we should all start chewing on lead paint and forget how to read and write altogether.
Run out of meds, did ya'?
Perhaps the potser is from another country?
What the hell is "130p" and "530a" ? Are we seriously supposed to start describing time that way now?
First we lost "noon" and "midnight," then it was all the "rds" and "ths" from dates, now we are too lazy to even write PM and AM? Maybe we should all start chewing on lead paint and forget how to read and write altogether.
What the hell is AM and PM? Oh, yeah, it's that ancient system the americans use....
What the hell is "130p" and "530a" ? Are we seriously supposed to start describing time that way now?
First we lost "noon" and "midnight," then it was all the "rds" and "ths" from dates, now we are too lazy to even write PM and AM? Maybe we should all start chewing on lead paint and forget how to read and write altogether.
I find it oddly appropriate that the "professor" called me on this.
It's my preference.
if you'll excuse me, I have to go now; that lead paint won't chew itself.
I love the idea that they might be extending magsafe connections to data though. Apple invents so many fantastic things and patents them all but for the most part they get screwed over and copied. The magsafe connection is so unique, no one else will be able to (legally) do it and it will be nice to see Apple get ahead on it's own IP and to not have it's ideas stolen for a change. I hope they *don't* licence it to anyone at all.
do you know how long the patents last? (how long apple retains exclusive rights to its IP) i've tried to find out before but had no success. an answer would be much appreciated.
do you know how long the patents last? (how long apple retains exclusive rights to its IP) i've tried to find out before but had no success. an answer would be much appreciated.
As far as I know a patent is valid for 20 years from the date it was filed.
do you know how long the patents last? (how long apple retains exclusive rights to its IP) i've tried to find out before but had no success. an answer would be much appreciated.
14-20 years. And it took me 14-20 seconds to find the answer with a Google search of 'how long do patents last?'
Sorry, but couldn't resist :P
14-20 years. And it took me 14-20 seconds to find the answer with a Google search of 'how long do patents last?'
Sorry, but couldn't resist :P
haha, i feel a bit foolish
At last.
Wait till it goes to medicine.IV surgery with light peak laser is in near future.
Please see>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C._V._Raman
haha, i feel a bit foolish
Alas the past 10 years have been a morass of patent litigation. It's not always clear what a patent will actually mean on the ground these days. MagSafe may be patented but it'd be interesting to see what would actually happen if someone decided to create their magnetic power cord. It's such a simple idea, it might not be a safe patent (I'm no lawyer, just pondering). To take it to the nth degree (I thought I'd best leave the 'th' in there as I have chewed all my lead for the day), you couldn't really patent the wheel because it's just too obvious.
I'd personally love to see a MagSafe data solution. I find FW800 cables very touchy, slightest knock and my Mac loses the drive. USB is very firm but therein lies the problem MagSafe is designed to solve.
One thing I can't help but wonder about LightPeak is...well...how needed is it on the consumer/'prosumer' level? Data overheads for even the highest quality 1080p video are way under the 480Mbps of USB2. It's undoubtedly superior technology but I just wonder what class of new accessory would it actually unlock that isn't already possible. I can only see two real-world uses for it; connection of multiple devices into a hub to be connected to the mac via a single LightPeak cable and the connection of a future solid state external hard disk. That's a very juicy idea, but nobody's really being held up by their data transfer speeds are they? 100MB/s too slow for you on your FW800?
Quite looking forward to Thursday now though!!
haha, i feel a bit foolish
Just incidentally, Apple filed the MagSafe patent in September 2005, so it's already 5.5 years into the 14-20 years. Time flies!
Just incidentally, Apple filed the MagSafe patent in September 2005, so it's already 5.5 years into the 14-20 years. Time flies!
well at least that's still a long time to leave the competition in the lurch
Does anyone know the affect that Light Peak will have on present USB and Firewire equipment, e.g., printers, external drives, speakers, electronic piano, flash drives. Or an external monitor? Thanks. Rick
it's "effect".
I believe the talk around here is that the mag safe would have a brick that acted as a hub for your standard connections. The mag safe would be the only wire plugged into the laptop. Your peripherals would plug into the hub.
So we're finally going back to having our peripheral cables on the floor? That's where my power bricks all are. While that's an awesome arrangement for a desktop that never moves it's less than ideal for a mobile computer. I can just see guys in expensive suits crawling around under their desks disconnecting all their peripherals so they can take their power brick with them to a meeting.
Magsafe is designed to disconnect at the slightest bump (a good thing.) USB drives that are in the middle of being written to do not like to be disconnected. You get a warning from OS X every time you disconnect. Wonder how they'll resolve this one?
Depends what filesystem you have. DONT use fat, always use a journaled file system. Yes even on USB-drives like USB-sticks.
As a sidenote to this I use NTFS on sticks for cross compatibility. Paradox NTFS driver for my macs (they changed name to NTFS for mac). Works without a hickup.
- Bootable.
- Power on to turn on Mac via keyboard (as former ADB and previous USB) or dongles (as i-Cue did with USB).
- Target Disk Mode (as Firewire).
- Daisy-chain devices.
At the moment I have 2 Sata2 drives connected to my MBP, anything better than that and more convenient than that will be awesome beyond belief.
Also would like to see this on iMac in future - I'ld get an iMac if it had this - FW and USB is just not good enough for HD video.
However, back then such a bus architecture did not exist - because Intel had not yet released LightPeak. The spec was ready, but the commercial implementation was not ready. So Apple went ahead and released the Mac Mini - smaller, sleeker, and unibody. And Apple backed away from a proprietary standard, because of the costs, and adoption issues with such a standard.
Now that LightPeak is ready, the next iteration of the Mac Mini will be a comprehensive upgrade - should allow Apple to release a stackable Mini, where each component can be upgraded independent of the others - for instance, you can dynamically add hard disk space, graphics cards, audio cards, TV Tuner cards, etc. to the system - without having to open the box.
Apple is likely to license this to interested third party vendors, so that we will see an entire ecosystem of components that can be used to extend the functionality of your computer. Of course, there will be very strict specs on appearance, dimensions, electrical standards, etc - to maintain a streamlined look across all these components.
Intel's implementation of LightPeak would be 10Gbps over cable, while Apple will likely target 100Gbps - because there will not be any long cables - these components will be hardware interlocked to each other, so there wont be the same issues that Intel has to deal with over cables, etc. While the basic LightPeak technology would be licensed from Intel, Apple's proprietary connector would be specifically licensed directly from Apple.
This is also one of the reasons why Apple removed the external power brick and moved it inside the Mac Mini. This would allow AC power to be daisy chained to all the components directly across the same hardware connector - and so there wont be any external power cables, bricks, etc.
Would be the best possible implementation of an upgradeable computer, and even your grandma would find it easy to upgrade such a system. And Apple would still be able to retain its margins because all the components would involve a licensing fee to Apple.
This is the sort of model that can destroy the PC industry as it exists currently! Of course, such an implementation would be massively patent protected by Apple.