When can we expect a new industrial design for MacBooks?

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  • Reply 21 of 27
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
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    Will this be a great advantage over the 2011 Sandy Bridge Processor they are using now?



    Depends on what you mean by great. I wouldn't think any more than a 25% boost, and that's the "insane optimist" end of the scale.
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  • Reply 22 of 27
    mjteixmjteix Posts: 563member
    Quote:
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    Will this be a great advantage over the 2011 Sandy Bridge Processor they are using now?



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


    Depends on what you mean by great. I wouldn't think any more than a 25% boost, and that's the "insane optimist" end of the scale.



    There is no indication that Intel will significantly refresh mobile SB cpus before the end of the year. Last year they did so for Arrandale, but I have to say that the original batch was not that great (very low clocks from the start). Apple didn't refresh the 2010 MBPs later, they just offered a couple of faster cpus as BTO options, it may well be the case again this year, yet the faster models may just be 0.1GHz or 0.2GHz updates (up to 10% boost).



    It's probably better to expect yearly updates on all Apple products now, and be surprised from time to time.
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  • Reply 23 of 27
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
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    It's probably better to expect yearly updates on all Apple products now, and be surprised from time to time.



    No. Why? I'm not talking about clock speed increases within Sandy Bridge, I'm talking about the process shrink in Ivy Bridge. We'll see at least one clock speed change for Sandy Bridge before the year's out, and then Ivy Bridge'll be out in spring 2012.
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  • Reply 24 of 27
    reganregan Posts: 474member
    January is usually when Apple releases complete redesigns of their MacBook pro line.



    And indeed, I think January 2012 is when we will see the next one for the MacBook pro.



    Or at least that is my guess from all the rumors floating around and the direction Apple has been moving towards.



    The phasing out of the optical drive is coming, and I think this will be part of the redesign. The popularity of the MacBook air and the inclusion of an SD card slot on all their laptops is also a sign. The CD/DVD is on it's way out. Movies and songs are being streamed and downloaded now. The extra space of doing away with the optical drive will allow for thinner and lighter laptops, not to mention more space for other things like extra SSD drives, bigger batteries etc.



    Maybe I'm wrong, maybe that redesign won't happen till January 2013....but I think not. I think it's time has come. Bwa-ha-ha!
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  • Reply 25 of 27
    mjteixmjteix Posts: 563member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


    No. Why? I'm not talking about clock speed increases within Sandy Bridge, I'm talking about the process shrink in Ivy Bridge. We'll see at least one clock speed change for Sandy Bridge before the year's out, and then Ivy Bridge'll be out in spring 2012.



    Yes you are:

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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil

    The next MacBook family update will be with the clock boost of Sandy Bridge...





    In any case, why would Apple "refresh" the MBP before the year's out, they didn't do it last year, they just offered more BTO options. The models stayed the same at the same price.
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  • Reply 26 of 27
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
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    Yes you are:



    Nope... try again.



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    In any case, why would Apple "refresh" the MBP before the year's out, they didn't do it last year, they just offered more BTO options. The models stayed the same at the same price.



    Because in every year before the last one Apple released at least two MacBook Pro revisions. Last year they stuck with Penryn because Clarksfield drew too much power. Apple COULDN'T update anything.
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  • Reply 27 of 27
    mjteixmjteix Posts: 563member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


    Nope... try again.



    Because in every year before the last one Apple released at least two MacBook Pro revisions. Last year they stuck with Penryn because Clarksfield drew too much power. Apple COULDN'T update anything.



    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil

    The next MacBook family update will be with the clock boost of Sandy Bridge...

    I'm not talking about clock speed increases within Sandy Bridge,...





    Sure you were, a few weeks may have passed between your posts (and with St. Patrick's day in between...), but that was a follow-up on the same question.



    If at least you had use "may" or "could" instead of "will",... You don't even know if the "clock boost" of Sandy Bridge will happen, if so, when it will happen, and if it will be significant enough for Apple to choose to release an update.



    Since when is Apple THAT predictable?

    2003: 2 PB updates

    2004: 1 PB update

    2005: 2 PB updates

    2006: 3 MBP updates

    2007: 1 MBP update

    2008: 2 MBP updates

    2009: 1 MBP update

    2010: 1 MBP update

    So, is it really "every year before the last one..."?



    And I disagree, they could have updated to faster penryns (2.40/2.66-?2.53/2.80), and to faster Arrandales (2.40/2.66-?2.53/2.80).
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