Come on, that's a bit harsh. He'll get better; he's just nervous, and you're not helping by saying that. He seems to be a decent sort overall.
But have to agree that Tim Cook has great presence.
My guess is that future media events are hosted by Phil Schiller. Cook will come onstage to go over any financial or other milestones. Then they will trot out the appropriate Sr. VP based on the product (Forstall, Serlet, Mansfield). If a new product design is involved Ive (or his replacement) comes onstage or they roll a video (which they have routinely done in the past).
I like Cook a lot, but I think that Apple would be making a mistake if they try to have him fill Jobs' shoes - no matter how good, he will never be as good as Jobs is in presenting new products. It makes more sense to me to adopt a different format because Apple truly will be a different company without Jobs.
Apple really needs to find a new Face and or Spokeman.
We all know that S. Jobs' days of being that are probably over with.
And we know that how, exactly?
Listen, instead of hanging on like vultures greedily waiting for the news of an untimely demise, why not invest your energies into something productive, like harboring only your best and warmest wishes for Steve Jobs? People seem to forget that Mr. Jobs, aside from being a snappy dresser and a hoot at a party, is a real human being, with real feelings, and actual hopes and desires... who maybe deserves just a little bit of compassion, a little bit of warmth, some understanding, and (wow, what a thought) maybe some well-wishing rather than greedy machinations concerning his mortality.
If it does not hurt his medical leave I don't see a reason not to show up for a few minutes before handing the presentation off. However I would much rather see Steve rest up and do a full blown reveal of Lion this summer.
Listen, instead of hanging on like vultures greedily waiting for the news of an untimely demise, why not invest your energies into something productive, like harboring only your best and warmest wishes for Steve Jobs? People seem to forget that Mr. Jobs, aside from being a snappy dresser and a hoot at a party, is a real human being, with real feelings, and actual hopes and desires... who maybe deserves just a little bit of compassion, a little bit of warmth, some understanding, and (wow, what a thought) maybe some well-wishing rather than greedy machinations concerning his mortality.
Maybe just a bit?
Wow. Human compassion and empathy! What a concept here on AI forums.
Thanks.
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Originally Posted by sheff
If it does not hurt his medical leave I don't see a reason not to show up for a few minutes
People seem to forget that Steve is still the active CEO, even while on medical leave from day-to-day operations.
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Originally Posted by Apple ][
If he has time and energy to meet with somebody like Obama, then he surely has time to be at the iPad2 launch, which is far more important.
Given the amount of work Steve puts into preparing for and practicing his public presentations/keynotes, something as simple as having dinner with the President of the United States is a piece of cake. The two are not on the same level of difficulty. Making presentations look effortless takes a lot of effort.
Yes, but then all the detractors (you know who you are, extremeskater) will be criticizing him for just phoning it in.
He won't do that. Phil and Tim can do the boring stuff at the beginning, announcing numbers of iPads sold, number of iPad apps downloaded, photos of their new store in Shanghai, then finally, Steve will appear on stage and say, "and one more thing..." iPad 2! Applause. Faster, more memory, FaceTime yeah! More applause. Mystery port... iOS 5 preview. Scott Forestall comes out. He trouts a list new features. Salivate. Here to show you what it looks like, some app developers will now come on stage and demo iOS 5 apps. Chilingo, Epic, some French Canadian guy from Gameloft. More Applause, Steve wraps it up with a summary. Same time next year.
Listen, instead of hanging on like vultures greedily waiting for the news of an untimely demise, why not invest your energies into something productive, like harboring only your best and warmest wishes for Steve Jobs? People seem to forget that Mr. Jobs, aside from being a snappy dresser and a hoot at a party, is a real human being, with real feelings, and actual hopes and desires... who maybe deserves just a little bit of compassion, a little bit of warmth, some understanding, and (wow, what a thought) maybe some well-wishing rather than greedy machinations concerning his mortality.
Maybe just a bit?
Second that, and add 'unseemly ruminations' to those 'greedy machinations.'
I hope Steve doesn't make an appearance. If he does, and he looks "gaunt," everybody will start wondering about his condition.
the man had pancreatic cancer and a liver transplant. He is going to always look gaunt,always going to have hormone and nutritional issues that will ebb and flow. That is just a fact of his life regardless of whether he lives six weeks, six years or six decades more. This is something that the media etc need to figure out and get over. If they would stop pushing this idea that he's going to drop dead any second and leave a pack of morons behind, the people would stop thinking it as well
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Originally Posted by BigBillyGoatGruff
He's just "calling in sick" so he can oversee the demolition of his old spooky house and the construction of his new one.
I can't help thinking that myself. I'm sure he probably was a bit exhausted after getting the Verizon iphone, new notebooks, new ipads etc to production ready status. January and February are dead times now that they get themselves out of Macworld. So it's a good time to take some time off. And Medical Leave is a way to do it without the Board being able to object. Legally they have to let him. So now he can come and go as he wishes, phone in etc. It's a cleaver move really
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Originally Posted by bcahill009
An ios device unveiling (especially the iPad) without SJ is certainly more that just a media event. Like it or not AAPL is effected in very real terms according to these events.
Two years ago, Jobs might have mattered. But now it is all about the products. As Apple wants it. Jobs being there are not is a footnote
Well Apple can't even vote on a succession plan. Like it or not Steve Jobs may never come back in good health so the company needs to move forward and not live in a false reality.
Apple has a succession plan and probably has since way before the whole cancer thing came up. They just aren't going to announce it and for good reason. If the world knew 100% that Tim Cook was going to be the new CEO, etc they would try to snake him away. Same with Ive, Johnson etc
That whole WSJ article was about a shareholder vote on some group demanding that Apple reveal the plan. The shareholders voted no, Apple does't have to tell
Apple has a succession plan and probably has since way before the whole cancer thing came up. They just aren't going to announce it and for good reason. If the world knew 100% that Tim Cook was going to be the new CEO, etc they would try to snake him away. Same with Ive, Johnson etc
That whole WSJ article was about a shareholder vote on some group demanding that Apple reveal the plan. The shareholders voted no, Apple does't have to tell
I could be reading this wrong but I was under the impression that the shareholders at the meeting are not even aware of the succession plan.
I don't think it has anything to do with someone trying to snake away Tim Cook, I think its simply, in the eyes of many Steves Jobs simply can not be replaced.
"?It Might Not Matter If They Disclose a Successor: Jobs Can't Be Replaced An unnamed "high ranking" Apple employee speaks to the Los Angeles Times, and neatly sums up what losing Jobs will mean: "Without him, the innovation will slow, regardless of all the great people there...When Apple does something, the whole world innovates. Who's going to do that now? That's not going to continue. I don't care what anyone says. How could it? How can you replace Steve? The reality is, you can't."
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Come on, that's a bit harsh. He'll get better; he's just nervous, and you're not helping by saying that. He seems to be a decent sort overall.
But have to agree that Tim Cook has great presence.
My guess is that future media events are hosted by Phil Schiller. Cook will come onstage to go over any financial or other milestones. Then they will trot out the appropriate Sr. VP based on the product (Forstall, Serlet, Mansfield). If a new product design is involved Ive (or his replacement) comes onstage or they roll a video (which they have routinely done in the past).
I like Cook a lot, but I think that Apple would be making a mistake if they try to have him fill Jobs' shoes - no matter how good, he will never be as good as Jobs is in presenting new products. It makes more sense to me to adopt a different format because Apple truly will be a different company without Jobs.
Apple really needs to find a new Face and or Spokeman.
We all know that S. Jobs' days of being that are probably over with.
And we know that how, exactly?
Listen, instead of hanging on like vultures greedily waiting for the news of an untimely demise, why not invest your energies into something productive, like harboring only your best and warmest wishes for Steve Jobs? People seem to forget that Mr. Jobs, aside from being a snappy dresser and a hoot at a party, is a real human being, with real feelings, and actual hopes and desires... who maybe deserves just a little bit of compassion, a little bit of warmth, some understanding, and (wow, what a thought) maybe some well-wishing rather than greedy machinations concerning his mortality.
Maybe just a bit?
Listen, instead of hanging on like vultures greedily waiting for the news of an untimely demise, why not invest your energies into something productive, like harboring only your best and warmest wishes for Steve Jobs? People seem to forget that Mr. Jobs, aside from being a snappy dresser and a hoot at a party, is a real human being, with real feelings, and actual hopes and desires... who maybe deserves just a little bit of compassion, a little bit of warmth, some understanding, and (wow, what a thought) maybe some well-wishing rather than greedy machinations concerning his mortality.
Maybe just a bit?
Wow. Human compassion and empathy! What a concept here on AI forums.
Thanks.
If it does not hurt his medical leave I don't see a reason not to show up for a few minutes
People seem to forget that Steve is still the active CEO, even while on medical leave from day-to-day operations.
If he has time and energy to meet with somebody like Obama, then he surely has time to be at the iPad2 launch, which is far more important.
Given the amount of work Steve puts into preparing for and practicing his public presentations/keynotes, something as simple as having dinner with the President of the United States is a piece of cake. The two are not on the same level of difficulty. Making presentations look effortless takes a lot of effort.
Yes, but then all the detractors (you know who you are, extremeskater) will be criticizing him for just phoning it in.
He won't do that. Phil and Tim can do the boring stuff at the beginning, announcing numbers of iPads sold, number of iPad apps downloaded, photos of their new store in Shanghai, then finally, Steve will appear on stage and say, "and one more thing..." iPad 2! Applause. Faster, more memory, FaceTime yeah! More applause. Mystery port... iOS 5 preview. Scott Forestall comes out. He trouts a list new features. Salivate. Here to show you what it looks like, some app developers will now come on stage and demo iOS 5 apps. Chilingo, Epic, some French Canadian guy from Gameloft. More Applause, Steve wraps it up with a summary. Same time next year.
And we know that how, exactly?
Listen, instead of hanging on like vultures greedily waiting for the news of an untimely demise, why not invest your energies into something productive, like harboring only your best and warmest wishes for Steve Jobs? People seem to forget that Mr. Jobs, aside from being a snappy dresser and a hoot at a party, is a real human being, with real feelings, and actual hopes and desires... who maybe deserves just a little bit of compassion, a little bit of warmth, some understanding, and (wow, what a thought) maybe some well-wishing rather than greedy machinations concerning his mortality.
Maybe just a bit?
Second that, and add 'unseemly ruminations' to those 'greedy machinations.'
LOL.
"And there's just one more thing... ring... ring...
It looks like Steve is calling. Let's facetime with the forward facing camera."*
* I couldn't care less about a forward facing camera but this would be a cool stunt anyway.
LOL! Thanks for the good humor!
So this article brings no extra info to the table. What a waste of time.
I hope Steve doesn't make an appearance. If he does, and he looks "gaunt," everybody will start wondering about his condition.
the man had pancreatic cancer and a liver transplant. He is going to always look gaunt,always going to have hormone and nutritional issues that will ebb and flow. That is just a fact of his life regardless of whether he lives six weeks, six years or six decades more. This is something that the media etc need to figure out and get over. If they would stop pushing this idea that he's going to drop dead any second and leave a pack of morons behind, the people would stop thinking it as well
He's just "calling in sick" so he can oversee the demolition of his old spooky house and the construction of his new one.
I can't help thinking that myself. I'm sure he probably was a bit exhausted after getting the Verizon iphone, new notebooks, new ipads etc to production ready status. January and February are dead times now that they get themselves out of Macworld. So it's a good time to take some time off. And Medical Leave is a way to do it without the Board being able to object. Legally they have to let him. So now he can come and go as he wishes, phone in etc. It's a cleaver move really
An ios device unveiling (especially the iPad) without SJ is certainly more that just a media event. Like it or not AAPL is effected in very real terms according to these events.
Two years ago, Jobs might have mattered. But now it is all about the products. As Apple wants it. Jobs being there are not is a footnote
Yes, but then all the detractors (you know who you are, extremeskater) will be criticizing him for just phoning it in.
Yeah mouse I could really give a shit if Steve Jobs is even there. Unlike you that will most likely be spanking off to the live feed.
Any news on whether this event will be broadcasted live or not?!
--bum steer deleted; can't find anything
Well Apple can't even vote on a succession plan. Like it or not Steve Jobs may never come back in good health so the company needs to move forward and not live in a false reality.
Apple has a succession plan and probably has since way before the whole cancer thing came up. They just aren't going to announce it and for good reason. If the world knew 100% that Tim Cook was going to be the new CEO, etc they would try to snake him away. Same with Ive, Johnson etc
That whole WSJ article was about a shareholder vote on some group demanding that Apple reveal the plan. The shareholders voted no, Apple does't have to tell
Yes.
http://www.tuaw.com/2010/08/31/apple...ws-live-event/
That article is from last year. The ipod event.
Two years ago, Jobs might have mattered. But now it is all about the products.
Yeah, except that AAPL shares dropped when Steve's leave was announced. So go tell it to the stock market.
Yes.
http://www.tuaw.com/2010/08/31/apple...ws-live-event/
That was from last years event.
Apple has a succession plan and probably has since way before the whole cancer thing came up. They just aren't going to announce it and for good reason. If the world knew 100% that Tim Cook was going to be the new CEO, etc they would try to snake him away. Same with Ive, Johnson etc
That whole WSJ article was about a shareholder vote on some group demanding that Apple reveal the plan. The shareholders voted no, Apple does't have to tell
I could be reading this wrong but I was under the impression that the shareholders at the meeting are not even aware of the succession plan.
I don't think it has anything to do with someone trying to snake away Tim Cook, I think its simply, in the eyes of many Steves Jobs simply can not be replaced.
I tend to buy into this.
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/opini...ion-Plans-7081
"?It Might Not Matter If They Disclose a Successor: Jobs Can't Be Replaced An unnamed "high ranking" Apple employee speaks to the Los Angeles Times, and neatly sums up what losing Jobs will mean: "Without him, the innovation will slow, regardless of all the great people there...When Apple does something, the whole world innovates. Who's going to do that now? That's not going to continue. I don't care what anyone says. How could it? How can you replace Steve? The reality is, you can't."
That article is from last year. The ipod event.
That was from last years event.
Oops, apologies. Story of my life right now, a year late and 50,000 $ short . . .