Apple brings HDMI output to iPhone 4, iPad, iPad 2

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  • Reply 21 of 55
    8corewhore8corewhore Posts: 833member
    It's my understanding that whatever app you are using that you want displayed on your TV, MUST support "video out" or it won't work. So, MLB may or may not, need to check.



    EDIT:::::



    I just watched the keynote. Jobs explicitly stated that HDMI out works with ALL APPS.
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  • Reply 22 of 55
    bongobongo Posts: 158member
    Apple is already eating Nintendos DS-lunch. What about the Wii as dessert? The iPad hooked up to a TV is more powerful than the Wii. Using an iPod/iPhone as a controller and it's a whole new bowling game.
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  • Reply 23 of 55
    lowededwookielowededwookie Posts: 1,184member
    Can someone explain to me the Dock Connector?



    It's female like on the bottom of the iPad. How do you charge?



    Are there male to male Dock Connectors out there?
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  • Reply 24 of 55
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by lowededwookie View Post


    Can someone explain to me the Dock Connector?



    It's female like on the bottom of the iPad. How do you charge?



    Are there male to male Dock Connectors out there?



    How is this confusing? Instead of plugging your NORMAL cable into your iPad, you plug it into the HDMI dongle.



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  • Reply 25 of 55
    8corewhore8corewhore Posts: 833member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Archos View Post


    No you use AirPlay troll.



    HDMI output features are pretty clearly defined in the article.



    WRONG.



    HDMI works with EVERYTHING. All Apps.
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  • Reply 26 of 55
    gregalexandergregalexander Posts: 1,401member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by lowededwookie View Post


    Can someone explain to me the Dock Connector?



    It's female like on the bottom of the iPad. How do you charge?



    Are there male to male Dock Connectors out there?



    You're looking at just one side of the connector, the 2 female sockets. It actually has 3 'bits' to plug in

    1) male iPad connector on a cable

    2) female iPad socket

    3) female HDMI socket.



    Instead of plugging your regular iPad cable from power to the base of the iPad, you'll plug it from power into the connector's female iPad socket - then plug the connector's iPad connector to the base of the iPad.



    At that point it's not doing anything extra of course - until you plug HDMI in too.
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  • Reply 27 of 55
    samwellsamwell Posts: 78member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rabbit_Coach View Post


    What kind of games do you play, where you would need a vibrator?



    Sorry I know it's late here and I had my glass of good ole red wine. I just could't prevent myself from asking.



    Not at all creepy.



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  • Reply 28 of 55
    gregalexandergregalexander Posts: 1,401member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by samwell View Post


    Not at all creepy.







    It's creepier when you combine it with facetime.
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  • Reply 29 of 55
    archosarchos Posts: 152member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by 8CoreWhore View Post


    WRONG.



    HDMI works with EVERYTHING. All Apps.



    When you use caps lock to type "wrong," you should actually be refuting something that is incorrect. The article is right, and you are mistaken.



    Mirroring works on iPad2. It is not supported by other iOS devices by Apple. The original poster was asking about an iPhone app.
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  • Reply 30 of 55
    multimediamultimedia Posts: 1,061member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MacShack View Post


    Does the iPhone 4 also support mirror view or only the iPad 2?



    Universal Mirror is only HDMI or VGA adapters out the iPad 2. On other devices it will depend on what app you're running.
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  • Reply 31 of 55
    drowdrow Posts: 127member
    ergh, dangly thing. couldn't it be a single block?
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  • Reply 32 of 55
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by GregAlexander View Post


    You're looking at just one side of the connector, the 2 female sockets. It actually has 3 'bits' to plug in

    1) male iPad connector on a cable

    2) female iPad socket

    3) female HDMI socket.



    Instead of plugging your regular iPad cable from power to the base of the iPad, you'll plug it from power into the connector's female iPad socket - then plug the connector's iPad connector to the base of the iPad.



    At that point it's not doing anything extra of course - until you plug HDMI in too.



    Funny, I was just driving home and the image of how it all works popped into my head. I do have a head cold - ironically thanks to a dusty Windows PC... yes, Windows gave ME a virus.



    It makes sense that there's a male connector to the iPad then the HDMI, then a female connector that allows the USB lead to plug in. This did not make sense to me when I posted this.



    Of course it wasn't until I was 21 before I realised the reason there was so much water after a house fire was because of the water coming from the fire hoses so go figure.
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  • Reply 33 of 55
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by drow View Post


    ergh, dangly thing. couldn't it be a single block?



    They obviously tried that and it didn't work well.
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  • Reply 34 of 55
    lilgto64lilgto64 Posts: 1,147member
    This is an example of something that so many people just don't get.



    I have recently had a couple of people showing me their various Droid devices and explaining how it is so much better to have a mini-HDMI port built into the device - and how the iPhone does not have one.



    And here we have a cable connector that does allow existing iPhones to have a standard HDMI port.



    In other words Apple has improved the functionality of their device through an upgrade to software and or add on hardware - something that I have not seen much of from the competitors.



    Okay some may argue that having an external cable solution is not as streamlined or elegant as having it built in. But on the flip side - there are trade-offs across the board in any device - from an engineering to cost of manufacture to form factor etc.



    An external solution also means that only those who actually want to use it need to spend the extra $ - it also means that third party solutions or used product should be available before long meaning I don't need to replace my iPhone every six months to take advantage of the latest and greatest stuff.
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  • Reply 35 of 55
    nvidia2008nvidia2008 Posts: 9,262member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by drow View Post


    ergh, dangly thing. couldn't it be a single block?



    I've been using the iPad/iPhone dock-to-VGA adaptor. Trust me, a dangly thing is more useful than just a block. You can manoeuvre the iPad/iPhone without having to move around the big ass long HDMI or VGA cable connected to the TV/Projector. OK not so much an issue with HDMI cables but with VGA projector cables, those things are big, long and heavy. (That's what she said... Zing!)
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  • Reply 36 of 55
    superbasssuperbass Posts: 688member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bongo View Post


    Apple is already eating Nintendos DS-lunch. What about the Wii as dessert? The iPad hooked up to a TV is more powerful than the Wii. Using an iPod/iPhone as a controller and it's a whole new bowling game.



    Uh... the fact that Wii controllers are WIRELESS is quite important. Also, you can use more than one at a time. And, I don't think you could consider the iPad as "more powerful" than the Wii when it comes to games. I doubt the iPad can render in 3D well enough to meet anyone's expectations.



    Anyways, I'm surprised nobody's asked the key question that should be posed to this article -



    Why did Apple stick with the proprietary iPod cable and not make the switch to Thunderbolt?®????



    It could do everything required 200X better/faster, and would give everyone a reason to start the switch... Paying $39 for this adapter plus $? for Thunderbolt adapters seems pretty silly given the 2 products are released basically at the same time. I can think of no good reason (other than Apple selling a simple adapter for $39) why they couldn't have used Thunderbolt in the iPad - isn't it also smaller internally than USB?
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  • Reply 37 of 55
    lilgto64lilgto64 Posts: 1,147member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Superbass View Post


    Uh... the fact that Wii controllers are WIRELESS is quite important. Also, you can use more than one at a time. And, I don't think you could consider the iPad as "more powerful" than the Wii when it comes to games. I doubt the iPad can render in 3D well enough to meet anyone's expectations.



    Anyways, I'm surprised nobody's asked the key question that should be posed to this article -



    Why did Apple stick with the proprietary iPod cable and not make the switch to Thunderbolt™®????



    It could do everything required 200X better/faster, and would give everyone a reason to start the switch... Paying $39 for this adapter plus $? for Thunderbolt adapters seems pretty silly given the 2 products are released basically at the same time. I can think of no good reason (other than Apple selling a simple adapter for $39) why they couldn't have used Thunderbolt in the iPad - isn't it also smaller internally than USB?



    Thunderbolt is not just a cable - there is a chip involved and device drivers etc - that has to go inside the iPad and iOS - but yes it would seem to make more sense to put a thunderbolt chip inside the iPad and maybe even the iPhone at some point - and then to keep things simple - have a 30pin dock connector to thunderbolt cable. I do not know what the reasons for not doing so are - but I would guess that over the next couple years we will see more and more use of thunderbolt chips/connectors/cables throughout Apple's product lineup - and at some point after the thunderbolt ecosystem is robust enough - the removal of legacy ports from devices across the board.
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  • Reply 38 of 55
    minderbinderminderbinder Posts: 1,703member
    HDMI out (finally) is cool, but it's disappointing (and a little dishonest) to hype 1080 output but the device will only play back 720. Oh well, hopefully next time around.
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  • Reply 39 of 55
    superbasssuperbass Posts: 688member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by minderbinder View Post


    HDMI out (finally) is cool, but it's disappointing (and a little dishonest) to hype 1080 output but the device will only play back 720. Oh well, hopefully next time around.



    Yeah, pretty misleading advertising - I'm sure lots of people will see "1080p" output on the website or on the box or in the store and assume that means that they can play 1080p... too bad only 720p video is possible...
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  • Reply 40 of 55
    Is this adapter available yet? The article doesn't say when we can buy it
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