I don't think there's any truth to the delay rumours.
Even if we don't see the iPhone 5 at WWDC it might just be because they wanted to do a separate event. It never made much sense to do major product releases at a developers conference anyway. Maybe Apple just wants more control over when and how they announce it. It's weird how everyone says it won't be in June and then cites August or September, completely forgetting that the month of July exists. Maybe they want to announce it closer to when it ships and they can't do that if the announcement is tied to the WWDC keynote. I think this is all a response to the iPhone 4 leak last year.
I also don't think there's any truth to the iOS 5 delay either. It's all based on the wording of the WWDC announcement, which quite clearly states that you should "come see the future of iOS and Mac OS". If that meant we weren't going to see iOS 5 until the WWDC, it would equally mean we weren't going to see Lion until the WWDC, but we've already seen Lion. Interpreting the statement as meaning there won't be an iOS preview before the WWDC is absurd. iOS is usually previewed in April. It could still happen this month.
Google result count means very little in these situations
You forgot to put the search in quotes, unless you're looking for pages with those four words anywhere in any order. But, hey, then you wouldn't be searching for a phrase at all.
You forgot to put the search in quotes, unless you're looking for pages with those four words anywhere in any order. But, hey, then you wouldn't be searching for a phrase at all.
Well it was supposed to be a joke. But seriously every instance of "Close to the vest" is going to be the exact expression under discussion where "Close to the chest" could be in reference to any number of descriptions ranging from anatomical medical procedures, shipping containers to pornography.
I might be chomping at the bit here from one too many expressos but for all intensive purposes a Google search is not an affidavid of the soul exceptable or original usage, irregardless of wat probly is most common today, excetera, excetera.
It's "intents and purposes" not "intensive purposes."
I don't know why you think you're qualified to know what's a common phrase when you can't even get THAT one right.
In case you didn't know, you take things "for granted" not "for granite." Granite is a rock.
Well it was supposed to be a joke. But seriously every instance of "Close to the vest" is going to be the exact expression under discussion where "Close to the chest" could be in reference to any number of anatomical descriptions ranging from medical procedures, shipping containers to pornography.
Understood, but even if only 25% of search results with the phrase "close to the chest" were actually using that expression, it would still be ~10 times more prevalent.
We have 3 family members using our iPad and woudl like to have our stuff separate. Our daughter's silly games needn't be on my workspace. Email accounts, Facebook, etc. would all benefit.
In the end it would make iPad more complicated while at the same time use excessive amounts of storage. You will likely need to look for a different solution.
Just because you grew up hearing vest (in America?) and claimed to have used google does not mean that a phrase used roughly 40 times more on the internet is less popular in America.
Sorry for the butthurt, but "close to the chest" is so much more common it's not even funny.
I'm born and raised in U.S. and never heard "close to the chest". It was always "vest". A quick perusal of Google seems to show that for Brits and Aussies the former usage is common and the latter rare. But maybe there are generational as well as geographical differences in usage? I'm 52, but younger American speakers could be shifting to "close to the chest". No evidence, just speculation.
Yea, go Apple(feeble attempt to get back on topic)
This will probably ruffle some feathers but I am curious to know if those of you who are quick to critique someone's grammar on these forums do the same when speaking to someone face to face? While it may be accurate that some grammar is in fact incorrect you come off as somewhat pompous.
For starters, the original idiom is champing at the bit, not chomping, though it?s an acceptable dialectal variant.
In other words it is like many American expressions that have morphed since our separation from england. In the context of the USA I'd even argue that chomping makes more sense as it is more descriptive of what is heard. At least this isn't a dramatic departure from what the intended meaning is. Expressions like "table a discussion" or "fanny" have dramatically different meanings depending on where you are. In this case we have nearly indentical phrases that resolve to the same concept.
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The rest are simply incorrect.
It?s espressos, not expressos.
It?s affidavit, not affidavid.
It?s sole, not soul.
It?s accepable, not exceptable.
It?s regardless, not irregardless.
It?s what, not wat.
It?s probably, not proly.
It?s et cetera, not excetera, and using it more than once is redundant.
As an interesting aside I often come back to my postings and can tell immediately when one of my posts has come from my iPhone. The clue is often a word in the post that I've never heard before . This after my attempts at proof reading.
In any event people that can't recognize these failures at auto correction have a real problem in my mind. This isn't the Wall Street Journal and an iPhone isn't a word processor.
Me too. Not so much for the iPhone as it's a personal item (connected to a phone number) but the iPad and iTouch should allow family members to share each with personal set ups for mail calenders etc.
The confusion expressed above is why I think Apple will avoid multiple user accounts on any of the iOS devices. Let's face it a Touch is a personal device and from Apples perspective so is an iPad.
Note that in the case of iPad I can see where accounts might be useful. Even if you take the family out of the equation. Still I really doubt Apple has any intention of implementing such a feature. These are designed to be personal devices in Apples mind. There is always hope as Apple does respond to reasonable public demand.
I don't know why anyone would want or need to *share* an iPad either. They aren't that expensive.
On the contrary they are very expensive for what they do. But even if that part of the equation is good for you you still need to consider the word family. A group of eight would mean a payout of over $5000 to Apple for iPads.
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Even if you have kids, there's no reason they can't share one among themselves without separate user accounts
This may be so. Though that is hard to do at the same time.
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and grown-ups should *not* be sharing their computers with youngsters anyway.
This is the most perplexing part of your response which causes me to ask why not? Seriously do you believe every adult out there has a PC full of porn and other corrupting material? Even if they did the whole point of user accounts is security and access limitations. If the OS can't keep the kids out of things they shouldn't be in it isn't much of an OS is it?
Note that in the case of iPad I can see where accounts might be useful. Even if you take the family out of the equation. Still I really doubt Apple has any intention of implementing such a feature. These are designed to be personal devices in Apples mind. There is always hope as Apple does respond to reasonable public demand.
I can certainly understand why families would like this feature. As far as the push notifications are concerned, you could forego that feature except for the user who was currently logged in. For kids it would be nice if they didn't have to remember a username and password, just a custom icon on the lock screen to launch their account. It would only be practical on iPad not iPhone. But I think apps would need to be aware of suspended states of shared users.
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Even if we don't see the iPhone 5 at WWDC it might just be because they wanted to do a separate event. It never made much sense to do major product releases at a developers conference anyway. Maybe Apple just wants more control over when and how they announce it. It's weird how everyone says it won't be in June and then cites August or September, completely forgetting that the month of July exists. Maybe they want to announce it closer to when it ships and they can't do that if the announcement is tied to the WWDC keynote. I think this is all a response to the iPhone 4 leak last year.
I also don't think there's any truth to the iOS 5 delay either. It's all based on the wording of the WWDC announcement, which quite clearly states that you should "come see the future of iOS and Mac OS". If that meant we weren't going to see iOS 5 until the WWDC, it would equally mean we weren't going to see Lion until the WWDC, but we've already seen Lion. Interpreting the statement as meaning there won't be an iOS preview before the WWDC is absurd. iOS is usually previewed in April. It could still happen this month.
What about 'Close to the breast'
About 95,100,000 results
Google result count means very little in these situations
You forgot to put the search in quotes, unless you're looking for pages with those four words anywhere in any order. But, hey, then you wouldn't be searching for a phrase at all.
You forgot to put the search in quotes, unless you're looking for pages with those four words anywhere in any order. But, hey, then you wouldn't be searching for a phrase at all.
Well it was supposed to be a joke. But seriously every instance of "Close to the vest" is going to be the exact expression under discussion where "Close to the chest" could be in reference to any number of descriptions ranging from anatomical medical procedures, shipping containers to pornography.
I might be chomping at the bit here from one too many expressos but for all intensive purposes a Google search is not an affidavid of the soul exceptable or original usage, irregardless of wat probly is most common today, excetera, excetera.
It's "intents and purposes" not "intensive purposes."
I don't know why you think you're qualified to know what's a common phrase when you can't even get THAT one right.
In case you didn't know, you take things "for granted" not "for granite." Granite is a rock.
Well it was supposed to be a joke. But seriously every instance of "Close to the vest" is going to be the exact expression under discussion where "Close to the chest" could be in reference to any number of anatomical descriptions ranging from medical procedures, shipping containers to pornography.
Understood, but even if only 25% of search results with the phrase "close to the chest" were actually using that expression, it would still be ~10 times more prevalent.
It's "intents and purposes" not "intensive purposes."
I don't know why you think you're qualified to know what's a common phrase when you can't even get THAT one right.
In case you didn't know, you take things "for granted" not "for granite." Granite is a rock.
We need an emoticon for "Sent from my iPad".
Solip is obviously fighting the Apple spelling completion "feature".
It's "intents and purposes" not "intensive purposes."
I don't know why you think you're qualified to know what's a common phrase when you can't even get THAT one right.
In case you didn't know, you take things "for granted" not "for granite." Granite is a rock.
Was my post really that subtle?
For starters, the original idiom is champing at the bit, not chomping, though it?s an acceptable dialectal variant. The rest are simply incorrect.
Please, no "first" posts.
Agreed.
Was this post about iPhone 5?
Oh come on-this is an Apple forum. You should know by now that the topic at hand eventually becomes muddle by bickering and opinions stated as truths.
Phil Schiller: white iPhone coming this spring. Sticking with my prediction: iPhone 4s on 3 May.
Out of sheer curiosity, why do you believe this? There seems to be no collaborating fact to support your opinion.
The white iPhone never got released during spring.
One wish:
Multiple user accounts!
We have 3 family members using our iPad and woudl like to have our stuff separate. Our daughter's silly games needn't be on my workspace. Email accounts, Facebook, etc. would all benefit.
In the end it would make iPad more complicated while at the same time use excessive amounts of storage. You will likely need to look for a different solution.
"Close to the chest" ~40m results
"Close to the vest" ~1m results
Just because you grew up hearing vest (in America?) and claimed to have used google does not mean that a phrase used roughly 40 times more on the internet is less popular in America.
Sorry for the butthurt, but "close to the chest" is so much more common it's not even funny.
I'm born and raised in U.S. and never heard "close to the chest". It was always "vest". A quick perusal of Google seems to show that for Brits and Aussies the former usage is common and the latter rare. But maybe there are generational as well as geographical differences in usage? I'm 52, but younger American speakers could be shifting to "close to the chest". No evidence, just speculation.
Yea, go Apple(feeble attempt to get back on topic)
Was my post really that subtle?
For starters, the original idiom is champing at the bit, not chomping, though it?s an acceptable dialectal variant.
In other words it is like many American expressions that have morphed since our separation from england. In the context of the USA I'd even argue that chomping makes more sense as it is more descriptive of what is heard. At least this isn't a dramatic departure from what the intended meaning is. Expressions like "table a discussion" or "fanny" have dramatically different meanings depending on where you are. In this case we have nearly indentical phrases that resolve to the same concept.
The rest are simply incorrect.
As an interesting aside I often come back to my postings and can tell immediately when one of my posts has come from my iPhone. The clue is often a word in the post that I've never heard before . This after my attempts at proof reading.
In any event people that can't recognize these failures at auto correction have a real problem in my mind. This isn't the Wall Street Journal and an iPhone isn't a word processor.
Me too. Not so much for the iPhone as it's a personal item (connected to a phone number) but the iPad and iTouch should allow family members to share each with personal set ups for mail calenders etc.
The confusion expressed above is why I think Apple will avoid multiple user accounts on any of the iOS devices. Let's face it a Touch is a personal device and from Apples perspective so is an iPad.
Note that in the case of iPad I can see where accounts might be useful. Even if you take the family out of the equation. Still I really doubt Apple has any intention of implementing such a feature. These are designed to be personal devices in Apples mind. There is always hope as Apple does respond to reasonable public demand.
Even Microsoft, eventually (!), got a grip on that one.
I don't know why anyone would want or need to *share* an iPad either. They aren't that expensive.
On the contrary they are very expensive for what they do. But even if that part of the equation is good for you you still need to consider the word family. A group of eight would mean a payout of over $5000 to Apple for iPads.
Even if you have kids, there's no reason they can't share one among themselves without separate user accounts
This may be so. Though that is hard to do at the same time.
and grown-ups should *not* be sharing their computers with youngsters anyway.
This is the most perplexing part of your response which causes me to ask why not? Seriously do you believe every adult out there has a PC full of porn and other corrupting material? Even if they did the whole point of user accounts is security and access limitations. If the OS can't keep the kids out of things they shouldn't be in it isn't much of an OS is it?
Note that in the case of iPad I can see where accounts might be useful. Even if you take the family out of the equation. Still I really doubt Apple has any intention of implementing such a feature. These are designed to be personal devices in Apples mind. There is always hope as Apple does respond to reasonable public demand.
I can certainly understand why families would like this feature. As far as the push notifications are concerned, you could forego that feature except for the user who was currently logged in. For kids it would be nice if they didn't have to remember a username and password, just a custom icon on the lock screen to launch their account. It would only be practical on iPad not iPhone. But I think apps would need to be aware of suspended states of shared users.