ASUS eeePad: like an iPad 2 for $399

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http://www.asus.com/Eee/Eee_Pad/Eee_...sformer_TF101/



The new ASUS eeePad looks awesome. Basically like an iPad 2 but with Android and more specs. Plus the dockable keyboard.



Best part: $399. Man this looks cool! And of course is someone has an Android phone they can tether it.



So cheap, I'm tempted. I'll probably wait a revision, but if it's that cheap or cheaper, and improves a lot for rev 2, and perhaps with Android 4.0 or whatever, I think I'll be buying an eeePad 2 later this year/next year. That extra $100 is a big difference I am betting for the market and this will be most successful Android tablet to date. They need to get Best Buy et al to sell this.
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  • Reply 1 of 37
    wizard69wizard69 Posts: 12,555member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Aquatic View Post


    http://www.asus.com/Eee/Eee_Pad/Eee_...sformer_TF101/



    The new ASUS eeePad looks awesome. Basically like an iPad 2 but with Android and more specs. Plus the dockable keyboard.



    Best part: $399. Man this looks cool! And of course is someone has an Android phone they can tether it.



    So cheap, I'm tempted. I'll probably wait a revision, but if it's that cheap or cheaper, and improves a lot for rev 2, and perhaps with Android 4.0 or whatever, I think I'll be buying an eeePad 2 later this year/next year. That extra $100 is a big difference I am betting for the market and this will be most successful Android tablet to date. They need to get Best Buy et al to sell this.



    First I don't want anything to do with Google and Android. The company is simply to unethical to do business with. Second I rather see HP or RIM succeed if for nothing else they are atleast trying to innovate. I'm disappointed RIM lost it's way, but I'd be far less embarrassed to carry a Playbook around than any Android tablet.
  • Reply 2 of 37
    "Basically an iPad 2 but with Android..."



    Hahahahahahahaha!!!!



    You do get the concept that it's the OS that makes the iPad the iPad, right?



    "Basically a MacBook Pro but with Windows!"

    "Basically an XBox 360 but it runs Sega Genesis games!"



    Let's be honest here. Honeycomb big? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Honeycomb good? Nah, nah, nah!
  • Reply 3 of 37
    MarvinMarvin Posts: 14,179moderator
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tonton View Post


    "Basically an iPad 2 but with Android..."



    My first impression was the same but I had also factored in some preconceptions about the hardware quality.



    With a 10" IPS screen and a keyboard docking station for 16 hours of battery life (9.5 standalone) with both front (1.2MP) and rear (5MP) facing cameras and NVidia Tegra 2, 1GB RAM, 1280 x 800 resolution, HDMI, gyroscope/accelerometer/compass, USB ports, 1080p playback, with a decent design, I think that's still a pretty strong piece of hardware for $399.



    You're right the software makes the experience but from seeing a demo video here:



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Rm8NQAib-A



    it's not all that bad. While I'm not a supporter of Flash, not being able to play Flash videos is a bit annoying and likely won't stop being annoying anytime soon. The iPad screen quality and smoothness is still better, along with the UI animations but that keyboard dock is very well thought out.



    From a student's point of view, they can take the laptop style device to class to take notes on very easily and it would behave just like a netbook. Taking the iPad keyboard dock is not quite as straightforward as you can't really sit it on your lap or angled desk easily.



    This is the first competing tablet that actually seems like serious competition.
  • Reply 4 of 37
    alienzedalienzed Posts: 393member
    Video playback looked horrible!
  • Reply 5 of 37
    aquaticaquatic Posts: 5,602member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tonton View Post


    "Basically an iPad 2 but with Android..."



    Hahahahahahahaha!!!!



    You do get the concept that it's the OS that makes the iPad the iPad, right?



    "Basically a MacBook Pro but with Windows!"

    "Basically an XBox 360 but it runs Sega Genesis games!"



    Let's be honest here. Honeycomb big? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Honeycomb good? Nah, nah, nah!



    Tonton I agree with you the software makes the device, any device. Well more generally the interface makes the device. And software is the primary interface for computer devices.



    One of the things I use Android for is Flash. Also PDF. Multitasking. Video. A lot of other things I simply can't do or would have to pay to do. Like Google Navigation, etc. For my purposes, iOS just didn't fit the bill. For others, iOS will be better. But there are many things Android does that iOS can not. Don't be so quick to write Google off on Tablets. I wasn't impressed at all about Xoom once I saw the price. But for $399...it has legs. Just watch. And imagine a device almost as capable released for $299 later this summer. Unlike how Apple owned all segments of the market with releasing iPod nano and Shuffle...they have yet to release a cheap iPad. $500 for a toy or a once-every-so-often is a steep price for a device in this economy. And for me and many others, I wouldn't be willing to spend $500 on any tablet, no matter what it did or who made it.
  • Reply 6 of 37
    aquaticaquatic Posts: 5,602member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by wizard69 View Post


    First I don't want anything to do with Google and Android. The company is simply to unethical to do business with. Second I rather see HP or RIM succeed if for nothing else they are atleast trying to innovate. I'm disappointed RIM lost it's way, but I'd be far less embarrassed to carry a Playbook around than any Android tablet.



    How is Google unethical!? Everything they do is free for users. Plus there OS is open source for crying out loud!
  • Reply 7 of 37
    nvidia2008nvidia2008 Posts: 9,262member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Aquatic View Post


    http://www.asus.com/Eee/Eee_Pad/Eee_...sformer_TF101/



    The new ASUS eeePad looks awesome. Basically like an iPad 2 but with Android and more specs. Plus the dockable keyboard.



    Best part: $399. Man this looks cool! And of course is someone has an Android phone they can tether it.



    So cheap, I'm tempted. I'll probably wait a revision, but if it's that cheap or cheaper, and improves a lot for rev 2, and perhaps with Android 4.0 or whatever, I think I'll be buying an eeePad 2 later this year/next year. That extra $100 is a big difference I am betting for the market and this will be most successful Android tablet to date. They need to get Best Buy et al to sell this.



    Wow, Aquatic, I thought you had standards... Seriously though all these tablets, transformers, or whatever all look good on paper. It's when you use it that things just don't pan out like you expect. For me, anyways.
  • Reply 8 of 37
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 19,268member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by nvidia2008 View Post


    Wow, Aquatic, I thought you had standards... Seriously though all these tablets, transformers, or whatever all look good on paper. It's when you use it that things just don't pan out like you expect. For me, anyways.



    It'll probably have some rough edges in the OS. It will also have features/functions/connections that the iPad won't offer. Since software can be improved and it has as good or better hardware than Apple's tablet at 20% less than the cheapest iPad, I think it's worth consideration.
  • Reply 9 of 37
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,399member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Aquatic View Post


    How is Google unethical!? Everything they do is free for users. Plus there OS is open source for crying out loud!



    Free ≠ ethical. That's a disgustingly disturbing jump for you to make.
  • Reply 10 of 37
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 19,268member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


    Free ≠ ethical. That's a disgustingly disturbing jump for you to make.



    Totally agree. Free services are no indication of a companies ethics.



    On the flip side, all the talk of Google lacking ethics is based solely on the rumored anger that the Apple CEO had when he found that Google was developing a phone, according to anonymous sources. Prior to that the Google Apple combo was a great thing in the eyes of the Apple faithful.



    Really a bit ridiculous the way attitudes changed simply because of 3rd party reports of the cause for a rift in a business relationship.
  • Reply 11 of 37
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post


    Totally agree. Free services are no indication of a companies ethics.



    On the flip side, all the talk of Google lacking ethics is based solely on the rumored anger that the Apple CEO had when he found that Google was developing a phone, according to anonymous sources.



    Yeah, that's all.

    There was no data collection by street view cars. No, siree. There is no tracking of location data. Nope. There was no effort to publish every book ever written without the permission of the copyright holder, or fair use, nope.

  • Reply 12 of 37
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 19,268member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tonton View Post


    Yeah, that's all.

    There was no data collection by street view cars. No, siree. There is no tracking of location data. Nope. There was no effort to publish every book ever written without the permission of the copyright holder, or fair use, nope.





    Street view is unethical? Location tracking is unethical? Google was actually stealing every every book ever published in it's entirety and making them free to everyone?



    One of these days I may make a post concerning Google's supposed lack of ethics. It still all comes down to a rumor of an angry Steve Jobs twisting the view of Google in the eyes of many Apple users.
  • Reply 13 of 37
    nvidia2008nvidia2008 Posts: 9,262member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post


    It still all comes down to a rumor of an angry Steve Jobs twisting the view of Google in the eyes of many Apple users.



    I see what you're trying to say, yes Steve had a role in opening my eyes about Google. For the better.



    But there is no denying even outside of Steve voicing his opinion (rumoured and public) there were concerns about Google's street view mapping and their book stealing which continues to this day... by various non-Apple users too.



    How would you like it if you were an author and somebody scanned your book and published it free on the Internet? Where would your income come from? Who would buy books? Not to mention now Google getting the advertising revenue from your book?
  • Reply 14 of 37
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 19,268member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by nvidia2008 View Post


    I see what you're trying to say, yes Steve had a role in opening my eyes about Google. For the better.



    But there is no denying even outside of Steve voicing his opinion (rumoured and public) there were concerns about Google's street view mapping and their book stealing which continues to this day... by various non-Apple users too.



    How would you like it if you were an author and somebody scanned your book and published it free on the Internet? Where would your income come from? Who would buy books? Not to mention now Google getting the advertising revenue from your book?



    things may not be quite as you understand them. Or perhaps they are. There's a clear explanation here:



    http://techland.time.com/2011/03/23/...oks-case-saga/
  • Reply 15 of 37
    The problem wasn't the collection of data for street view. The problem was collection of data that went far beyond any data Street view or an ethical company would ever need.
  • Reply 16 of 37
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 19,268member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tonton View Post


    The problem wasn't the collection of data for street view. The problem was collection of data that went far beyond any data Street view or an ethical company would ever need.



    Then you're stating that it was Google's intent to gather data file fragments using StreetView as a front? If so, yes that would be unethical at minimum. If it was an unintentional by-product, not sure I consider that proof of an ethics issue.
  • Reply 17 of 37
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post


    Then you're stating that it was Google's intent to gather data file fragments using StreetView as a front? If so, yes that would be unethical at minimum. If it was an unintentional by-product, not sure I consider that proof of an ethics issue.



    Although intent can't likely ever be proven, the fact that Google was apparently running code that...



    Quote:

    ?inadvertently? captured around 600GB of data in 30 countries. Among the information gathered were emails, passwords, and the addresses of websites visited by households. However, Google has stressed that none of this data has been, or was ever intended to be, used for commercial purposes.



    Shows negligence in the extreme.



    But seriously, folks. Obviously, data would have been being recorded to a server somewhere. Would not an engineer have noticed that "disappearing capacity" were it not intentional? And why the hell did they have to collect any data other than location and orientation, which they more easily and more accurately could have done with GPS and a gyroscope, rather than using WiFi data?



    "Experimental code inserted by an engineer", my ass. They got caught.
  • Reply 18 of 37
    trumptmantrumptman Posts: 16,448member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Aquatic View Post


    http://www.asus.com/Eee/Eee_Pad/Eee_...sformer_TF101/



    The new ASUS eeePad looks awesome. Basically like an iPad 2 but with Android and more specs. Plus the dockable keyboard.



    Best part: $399. Man this looks cool! And of course is someone has an Android phone they can tether it.



    So cheap, I'm tempted. I'll probably wait a revision, but if it's that cheap or cheaper, and improves a lot for rev 2, and perhaps with Android 4.0 or whatever, I think I'll be buying an eeePad 2 later this year/next year. That extra $100 is a big difference I am betting for the market and this will be most successful Android tablet to date. They need to get Best Buy et al to sell this.



    Aquatic, that thing looks TERRIBLE. There is a real reason why the iPad sold somewhat well but Apple can't even begin to try to meet demand for the new iPad. The specs are just a small part of the picture. It is the size and most importantly the weight that has pushed the new iPad over the top.



    First wide screen is nice for watching movies, but these things are used for much more than that. For other uses though it becomes unwieldy. That thing looks like a heavy awkward beast of a tablet to deal with. The iPad works with bluetooth keyboards (as does the iPhone) plus Apple sells a similar adapter. Why not use a scenario that has software and actually has developers trying to make unique programs for it? That has to be worth more than the price difference over the life of the device. Also the iPad is simply much better in terms of materials and size for the price.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Aquatic View Post


    Tonton I agree with you the software makes the device, any device. Well more generally the interface makes the device. And software is the primary interface for computer devices.



    One of the things I use Android for is Flash. Also PDF. Multitasking. Video. A lot of other things I simply can't do or would have to pay to do. Like Google Navigation, etc. For my purposes, iOS just didn't fit the bill. For others, iOS will be better. But there are many things Android does that iOS can not. Don't be so quick to write Google off on Tablets. I wasn't impressed at all about Xoom once I saw the price. But for $399...it has legs. Just watch. And imagine a device almost as capable released for $299 later this summer. Unlike how Apple owned all segments of the market with releasing iPod nano and Shuffle...they have yet to release a cheap iPad. $500 for a toy or a once-every-so-often is a steep price for a device in this economy. And for me and many others, I wouldn't be willing to spend $500 on any tablet, no matter what it did or who made it.



    Flash is a terrible security risk. I predict that within a couple years due to Flash, Android will start needing anti-virus programs. Apple is handling PDF's just fine. I've printed them from my iPhone and iBooks can store them as well. Google Navigation is just a program. I use Mapquest for Mobile to get turn by turn for free on my iPhone.



    I've gone to the level of root and flashing roms onto various Android devices. I've yet to find something an Android phone or tablet can do that iOS would be incapable of doing.
  • Reply 19 of 37
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 19,268member
    iPad2 - (601 - 613 g) / 9.5×7.31×.346 in (240×186×8.8 mm)



    Asus Transformer - (680 g) / 10.67 x 6.73 x 0.51 (271 x 171 x 12.98 mm)



    So just over 2 ounces heavier, same weight as last years iPad. Was that heavy? A bit wider (for widescreen of course), not as tall, and an 1/8" thicker. Actually just slightly thinner than last years iPad, which I didn't see anyone here complain about as too thick, nor unwieldy. Doesn't seem all that bulky really.



    Apple absolutely has the edge on optimized apps tho. I suspect it may be quite a few months before Android can boast of "thousands" of tablet-specific applications.



    EDIT: This is interesting. Already sold out in the UK, but is that 10K or 100K or 500K? Who knows. Like Apple until the financials this week, they ain't sayin. In any case, ASUS says they're having difficulty meeting demand. US release should be on the 26th.
  • Reply 20 of 37
    nvidia2008nvidia2008 Posts: 9,262member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post


    EDIT: This is interesting. Already sold out in the UK, but is that 10K or 100K or 500K? Who knows. Like Apple until the financials this week, they ain't sayin. In any case, ASUS says they're having difficulty meeting demand. US release should be on the 26th.



    Hmmm 500,000? Must be all the people that can't get their hands on the iPad 2.



    "500,000", "Already sold out in the UK", "ASUS says they're having difficulty meeting demand".



    Nice try. So this is the real "iPad killer"? For reals this time?



    Next we'll hear that sell through was "smooth".
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