[...] Add to that weeks of rumors of an all new, universal iPhone 5 heading to manufacturing this September, and it may be safe to presume that the best days for sales of CDMA-capable iPhones are yet to come. [...]
Hmmmm, I don't know. Lets ask the 100+ million subscribers they have.
100 million plus people easily swayed by PR and bullsht marketing.
There are only a handful of people who actually choose Verizon over AT&T, and those handful live in the 10% of land area in the United States where you can barely make an AT&T phone call.
Most people who choose between the two carriers, who are not in the minority position of living in bad AT&T coverage, pick AT&T, for all of the well known reasons. Speed, GSM versatility, and voice/data usage.
None of this has anything to do with the people who choose Verizon and have no idea why. Which would be 90% of their subscribers.
100 million plus people easily swayed by PR and bullsht marketing.
There are only a handful of people who actually choose Verizon over AT&T, and those handful live in the 10% of land area in the United States where you can barely make an AT&T phone call.
Most people who choose between the two carriers, who are not in the minority position of living in bad AT&T coverage, pick AT&T, for all of the well known reasons. Speed, GSM versatility, and voice/data usage.
None of this has anything to do with the people who choose Verizon and have no idea why. Which would be 90% of their subscribers.
You are absolutely wrong about that. If marketing made so much of a difference then T-Mobile should have a lot more subs because I see WAY more of their ads than VZW, its not the phones either because T-Mobile has historically always had the best selection of phones. Its very simple, 1 out of 3 people in this country want a phone that will with a high probability complete a call to its entirety.
Wow. Apple was such a great company. This is it. It's over. Stock's gonna tank today. Sell your shares. The run has come to an end. Windows Phone 7/Nokia will take over, as will Android. Call in the wolves (or Mr. Wolf).
You are absolutely wrong about that. If marketing made so much of a difference then T-Mobile should have a lot more subs because I see WAY more of their ads than VZW...
Don?t confuse the amount of marketing with quality (red: effective) marketing, and certainly not the amount of ads you witness.
Even people having a Verizon phone is marketing. Word of mouth is a powerful tool.
Assuming DigiTime's latest report is accurate, it would suggest Apple only plans to sell roughly 1 million units per quarter for the next two quarters before it introduces a universal iPhone 5 around the fourth quarter of 2011 that will be capable of running on both CDMA and GSM networks.
That number is clearly absurd - it probably means they are looking somewhere else for components.
Don?t confuse the amount of marketing with quality (red: effective) marketing, and certainly not the amount of ads you witness.
Even people having a Verizon phone is marketing. Word of mouth is a powerful tool.
Are you insinuating that the "can you hear me now guy" is a better spokesperson than Catherine Zeta-Jones? Be careful them is words that'll get your man membership revoked.
Although it's great for those of us who pay attention to the rumor sites to get a good idea for what will be in the next iPhone, iPod, or Mac, one possible reason for the significant drop of how many models will be made by Pegatron is that the rumor sites didn't wait for at least a month when it started selling in the retail stores to say that the Verizon iPhone 4 is using the Qualcomm MDM6600 world mode modem. Apparently, most of us (both in the U.S. and around the world) knew what that meant as far as upcoming features for the iPhone 5; and decided to hold off on purchasing an iPhone 4 and wait for iPhone 5. I, for one, am very thankful for this leak when they took apart the phone; and do very much hope that not only will the iPhone 5 work on both CDMA and GSM; but that there is also enough room to include the 1700Mhz band, so that the rumor made this past weekend of T-Mobile possibly selling it as well will become true. If that happens, hopefully it will be enough to prevent the merger of AT&T and T-Mobile; the feeling that I get when I read most of the comments from http://www.tmonews.com is that most of T-Mobile customer base will abandon ship for another carrier if this merger happens.
I for one didn't want to downgrade to voice or data, I like having the ability to do both!
On AT&T you cant really do both anyway. Often you can do neither. You have to have a signal before you can use data and voice.
I have had lots of friends on AT&T and they have all left. And all for the same reason...crappy connections. I had one friend who live in the middle of downtown Denver and could not get a signal on AT&T...no joke. It was ridiculous.
Yeah, I know AT&T works well in some cities. But their reputation for crappy service is not undeserved. I know this from many different sources.
For all practical purposes, Apple themselves said the iPhone 4 for Verizon Wireless is a half-baked product. I believe the quote from an Apple exec was (paraphrased) "Verizon Wireless customers who want an iPhone 4 right now understand its limitations".
Verizon has a lot of smartphone customers who need features like world-capable and they are getting it with other handset but not iPhone 4. If you're one of those customers, would you give up something you consider essential or at least have counted on to get an iPhone 4? I'm sure some have but many, no doubt, haven't. They think if they wait long enough, they can ride out their Blackberrys or whatever until Apple builds features they already have into a Verizon iPhone. Such as what my friend said... "I'd get a Verizon iPhone but then I won't have a phone to use in England and Germany and I'm not switching to AT&T just for that as I don't need to".
As for the person who questioned why anyone would want Verizon Wireless over AT&T... I know people who couldn't wait to switch to VZW because their ATT service was so deplorable. What good is high data speed if your phone keep dropping telephone calls? Let's remember, the #1 reason why people have mobile phones is to talk to other people.
Why would anybody buy it when iPhone 5 is a few months away?
The vast majority of iPhone users has never heard of an up and coming v5. They have enough trouble using their v4's. Verizon is the Proctor and Gamble of the phone industry. Cheap low functionality phones and poor customer service.
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[...] Add to that weeks of rumors of an all new, universal iPhone 5 heading to manufacturing this September, and it may be safe to presume that the best days for sales of CDMA-capable iPhones are yet to come. [...]
Yeah, I think that's why. Surprise.
Hmmmm, I don't know. Lets ask the 100+ million subscribers they have.
100 million plus people easily swayed by PR and bullsht marketing.
There are only a handful of people who actually choose Verizon over AT&T, and those handful live in the 10% of land area in the United States where you can barely make an AT&T phone call.
Most people who choose between the two carriers, who are not in the minority position of living in bad AT&T coverage, pick AT&T, for all of the well known reasons. Speed, GSM versatility, and voice/data usage.
None of this has anything to do with the people who choose Verizon and have no idea why. Which would be 90% of their subscribers.
100 million plus people easily swayed by PR and bullsht marketing.
There are only a handful of people who actually choose Verizon over AT&T, and those handful live in the 10% of land area in the United States where you can barely make an AT&T phone call.
Most people who choose between the two carriers, who are not in the minority position of living in bad AT&T coverage, pick AT&T, for all of the well known reasons. Speed, GSM versatility, and voice/data usage.
None of this has anything to do with the people who choose Verizon and have no idea why. Which would be 90% of their subscribers.
You are absolutely wrong about that. If marketing made so much of a difference then T-Mobile should have a lot more subs because I see WAY more of their ads than VZW, its not the phones either because T-Mobile has historically always had the best selection of phones. Its very simple, 1 out of 3 people in this country want a phone that will with a high probability complete a call to its entirety.
Wow. Apple was such a great company. This is it. It's over. Stock's gonna tank today. Sell your shares. The run has come to an end. Windows Phone 7/Nokia will take over, as will Android. Call in the wolves (or Mr. Wolf).
You sending the Wolf?
Shit yea negro, that's all you had to say.
You are absolutely wrong about that. If marketing made so much of a difference then T-Mobile should have a lot more subs because I see WAY more of their ads than VZW...
Don?t confuse the amount of marketing with quality (red: effective) marketing, and certainly not the amount of ads you witness.
Even people having a Verizon phone is marketing. Word of mouth is a powerful tool.
Assuming DigiTime's latest report is accurate, it would suggest Apple only plans to sell roughly 1 million units per quarter for the next two quarters before it introduces a universal iPhone 5 around the fourth quarter of 2011 that will be capable of running on both CDMA and GSM networks.
That number is clearly absurd - it probably means they are looking somewhere else for components.
Don?t confuse the amount of marketing with quality (red: effective) marketing, and certainly not the amount of ads you witness.
Even people having a Verizon phone is marketing. Word of mouth is a powerful tool.
Are you insinuating that the "can you hear me now guy" is a better spokesperson than Catherine Zeta-Jones? Be careful them is words that'll get your man membership revoked.
I for one didn't want to downgrade to voice or data, I like having the ability to do both!
On AT&T you cant really do both anyway. Often you can do neither. You have to have a signal before you can use data and voice.
I have had lots of friends on AT&T and they have all left. And all for the same reason...crappy connections. I had one friend who live in the middle of downtown Denver and could not get a signal on AT&T...no joke. It was ridiculous.
Yeah, I know AT&T works well in some cities. But their reputation for crappy service is not undeserved. I know this from many different sources.
Verizon has a lot of smartphone customers who need features like world-capable and they are getting it with other handset but not iPhone 4. If you're one of those customers, would you give up something you consider essential or at least have counted on to get an iPhone 4? I'm sure some have but many, no doubt, haven't. They think if they wait long enough, they can ride out their Blackberrys or whatever until Apple builds features they already have into a Verizon iPhone. Such as what my friend said... "I'd get a Verizon iPhone but then I won't have a phone to use in England and Germany and I'm not switching to AT&T just for that as I don't need to".
As for the person who questioned why anyone would want Verizon Wireless over AT&T... I know people who couldn't wait to switch to VZW because their ATT service was so deplorable. What good is high data speed if your phone keep dropping telephone calls? Let's remember, the #1 reason why people have mobile phones is to talk to other people.
Why would anybody buy it when iPhone 5 is a few months away?
The vast majority of iPhone users has never heard of an up and coming v5. They have enough trouble using their v4's. Verizon is the Proctor and Gamble of the phone industry. Cheap low functionality phones and poor customer service.
I can't imagine anyone doing business with Verizon if don't have too.
Really?, I Love so-much doing business with AT&T! What the hell does your comment mean?