Acer and former CEO trade barbs over Apple's iPad threat

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  • Reply 21 of 31
    cvaldes1831cvaldes1831 Posts: 1,832member
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    Originally Posted by brucep View Post


    cer knocks on Dells door not Apples . Acer and Apple live on different worlds .



    Not anymore.



    Go back and reread the article. Acer is changing its business model because the iPad destroyed the netbook sector.



    Apple did not just knock on Acer's door. Acer left the door wide open, and Apple barged right in and drank all the beer in the fridge leaving Stan Shih with a bunch of empty bottles to take to the recycling bin.
  • Reply 22 of 31
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
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    Originally Posted by toppura View Post


    Hey, let's be fair here. Didn't Microsoft invent the talking paper clip?



    Which leads to my next question: can you really patent a bent piece of wire?
    The fastening of papers has been historical referenced to as early as the 13th century, when people put ribbon through parallel incisions in the upper left hand corner of pages. Later people started to wax the ribbons to make them stronger and easier to undo and redo. This was the way people clipped papers together for the next six hundred years.



    In 1835, a New York physician named John Ireland Howe invented a machine for mass producing straight pins. Straight pins then became a popular way to fasten papers together, although they were not originally designed for that purpose. Straight pins were designed to be used in sewing and tailoring, to temporally fasten cloth together.



    Johan Vaaler, a Norwegian inventor with a degree in electronics, science and mathematics, invented the paperclip in 1899. He received a patent for his design from Germany in 1899, since Norway had no patent laws at that time. Johan Vaaler was an employee at a local invention office when he invented the paperclip. He received an American patent in 1901 -- patent abstract "It consists of forming same of a spring material, such as a piece of wire, that is bent to a rectangular, triangular, or otherwise shaped hoop, the end parts of which wire piece form members or tongues lying side by side in contrary directions." Johan Vaaler was the first person to patent a paperclip design, although other unpatented designs might have existed first.
  • Reply 23 of 31
    mrstepmrstep Posts: 446member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mhikl View Post


    They can emulate till the cows come home but Apple will always be steps ahead while the emulators spend themselves into the ground.



    They're slow to even emulate because the message that has been drilled into everyone for years is that Microsoft & PCs are a success, and Apple - being proprietary - is a failure. That's not looking at things like profit margins, or why the PC world was so dominant to begin with.



    Apple stopped innovating when Jobs was gone and wasn't about to challenge the PC world. Remember MacOS without memory protection or multitasking? There was a time where the PC side was technically ahead on hardware and software. But even then, margins there were pretty poor. Now bring innovation back to the competition (Apple), and suddenly the PC world is shown as the steaming pile of crap that it is.



    The monetization is like the old SNL skit where they talked about losing money on every item they sold - but they make it up in volume! And the PC makers are uniquely unprepared to innovate or make nice products since that has NEVER been part of the PC culture.



    HP is trying with the Pre purchase, so good luck to them, and the rest can fight over Androids table scraps.
  • Reply 24 of 31
    eldernormeldernorm Posts: 232member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post


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    ---The number of engineers Lanci required could not be found in Taiwan, so he suggested looking elsewhere:--

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    ---Acer took issue with Lanci's claim that the company's capabilities weren't up to the task of building a tablet, highlighting instead the fact that its Android 3.0 tablet PCs trailed behind only Apple and Motorola when they began shipping.



    ----. However, after sales and profits slowed at the end of 2010, founder Stan Shih announced that the company would overhaul operations to more closely emulate Apple's strategy.



    Acer had previously pursued a volume strategy, "striving to become the world`s largest PC vendor, in the belief that the goal can help it achieve economy of scale and garner higher margin," according to one report.---.





    Sorry to say that talking and doing are two different things.



    "The number of engineers Lanci required could not be found in Taiwan" Throwing bodies at a problem is not the answer... Just ask Microsloth.



    " However, after sales and profits slowed at the end of 2010, founder Stan Shih announced that the company would overhaul operations to more closely emulate Apple's strategy"



    Saying that you will copy someone and having no idea how they operate is just stupid. :-)



    Just a thought,

    en
  • Reply 25 of 31
    bigmac2bigmac2 Posts: 637member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by cvaldes1831 View Post


    Not anymore.



    Go back and reread the article. Acer is changing its business model because the iPad destroyed the netbook sector.



    Apple did not just knock on Acer's door. Acer left the door wide open, and Apple barged right in and drank all the beer in the fridge leaving Stan Shih with a bunch of empty bottles to take to the recycling bin.



    I saw many blog reporting how much the iPad has "destroyed" the Netbook market. But I think Apple and the iPad got very little to do with this.



    Netbook vendor are responsible for their own fall, since they no longer want to develop their on OS and they all switch to Windows. Let's face it, Netbook are toy laptop without enough horsepower and screen size to run adequately usual Windows software like Office or Adobe CS. I say, it's time of get rid of this horrible licensed OS practice and for PC-Device vendor to develop their own software like RIM and HP. Windows always being a poor man OS, and still to this date the only non-unix based OS still on the market. After 20 years of monopoly, a lot of people are getting tired of Windows and the popularity of new emerging OS like iOS and Android could be a sign of a new computer era without Microsoft being the key player.
  • Reply 26 of 31
    c4rlobc4rlob Posts: 277member
    These CEOs should stay or quit based on one question to their boards...

    "If you want me to compete with Steve Jobs, will you let me make Steve Jobs decisions?

    You can't compete against a company like Apple that is obviously operating on a different standard of success. Apple doesn't prioritize boring things. And volume and saturation on their own are boring. So even if a company is lucky enough to achieve volume and saturation it's still doomed to be boring. Apple tends to be perfectly happy with being in second-place in terms of standard benchmarks if they're achieving success in more nebulous things like customer loyalty, culture excitement, innovation, etc.
  • Reply 27 of 31
    I believe what the leaving CEO says to be honest.



    The company I used to work for was essentially Acer Support NZ doing all the warranty work and Acers are really bad machines. They are alright when they go but when they fail they suck badly. Their processes suck in getting the right parts making the engineer look bad when it's Acer supplying an HDD for a power supply issue.



    We had a CEO for the company I used to work for who was awesome but he left essentially disgusted that the employees were treated like cattle but his hands were tied by the culture of the company and he only lasted a year, not enough time to actually do anything about anything.



    Corporations suck and are so out of touch with the customers and employees that it's clear they don't want to succeed.
  • Reply 28 of 31
    ecphorizerecphorizer Posts: 533member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by _Hawkeye_ View Post


    @AppleInsider: The definition of cannibalizing is to eat one's own kind. Predation is the word you're looking for.



    Indeed. This isn't the first time AI has improperly used that word.
  • Reply 29 of 31
    ecphorizerecphorizer Posts: 533member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by island hermit View Post


    fear of de-Taiwanization of the Company.



    Gianfranco Lanci



    It's obvious why he was fired...



    Lanxi Ji-Ahn is Taiwanese.
  • Reply 30 of 31
    chiachia Posts: 699member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by solipsism View Post


    Which leads to my next question: can you really patent a bent piece of wire?
    Johan Vaaler, a Norwegian inventor with a degree in electronics, science and mathematics, invented the paperclip in 1899.



    A degree in electronics in 1899, at a time when the computer TV and radio were yet to be invented??!!



    Sounds suspect to me...
  • Reply 31 of 31
    ecphorizerecphorizer Posts: 533member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ChiA View Post


    A degree in electronics in 1899, at a time when the computer TV and radio were yet to be invented??!!



    Sounds suspect to me...



    At a time when telephone technology was taking off replacing telegraph lines? at a time when radio technology was coming into its own? when Marconi had already invented the wireless? oh the list goes on.



    You obviously think that technology prior to 1950 was alchemy and witchcraft!



    Here's an interesting read on early radio:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invention_of_radio
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