Apple's iPhone trumps Android in enterprise adoption, iPad dominates

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  • Reply 21 of 44
    anonymouseanonymouse Posts: 7,027member
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    I don't understand why Daniel Eran Dilger writes under this pseudonym, Slash Lane, along with his other pseudonym, Prince McLean. Why doesn't he just write all of his stories under his real name?



    I don't understand why you care.
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  • Reply 22 of 44
    mennomenno Posts: 854member
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    Google "products" in general are not very appealing for corporate users. I doubt Android will ever be any more popular with corporate clients than gmail or google docs. The main reasons are (1) data security, (2) support, and (3) feature sets.



    First, there are over 3 million companies that use Google Apps for Business, including some large firms in "Security" sensitive fields.



    1) Gapps are fully SAS 70 Type II complient, they're one of the first cloud management suites to get certified by FISMA. Google apps also has several android apps that increase security on the device (and allow device administrators to lock down devices as much as they want). They also make no claim to the data and allow companies to opt out of the advertising system, so the data isn't even scanned for anything but malware/spam. What kind of security are they missing? Sure, they don't have the super encryption of BES, but neither does iOS.



    2) Again, 3 million companies and thousands of schools beg to differ.



    3) What features?
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  • Reply 23 of 44
    ajitmdajitmd Posts: 365member
    NVidea stock got hammered after disappointing earnings. Their processors were supposed to be used in many iPad competitors and the stock had gone up in expectation. Looks like most of these iPad competing products are DOA. It is beginning to look like Honeycomb its is DOA.



    With many common apps being used in the iPhone and iPad, there is reduced incentive for an iPad user to buy an Android phone
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  • Reply 24 of 44
    anonymouseanonymouse Posts: 7,027member
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    Originally Posted by Menno View Post


    First, there are over 3 million companies that use Google Apps for Business, including some large firms in "Security" sensitive fields.



    1) Gapps are fully SAS 70 Type II complient, they're one of the first cloud management suites to get certified by FISMA. Google apps also has several android apps that increase security on the device (and allow device administrators to lock down devices as much as they want). They also make no claim to the data and allow companies to opt out of the advertising system, so the data isn't even scanned for anything but malware/spam. What kind of security are they missing? Sure, they don't have the super encryption of BES, but neither does iOS.



    2) Again, 3 million companies and thousands of schools beg to differ.



    3) What features?



    Menno, the paid Google astroturfer, steps in with the company line defense...
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  • Reply 25 of 44
    jragostajragosta Posts: 10,473member
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    Menno, the paid Google astroturfer, steps in with the company line defense...



    Twice.



    I wonder how much it pays to be a Google shill.
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  • Reply 26 of 44
    anonymouseanonymouse Posts: 7,027member
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    Twice.



    I wonder how much it pays to be a Google shill.



    It must pay OK. He's obviously spending so much time defending Google that he can't be working another job, too.
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  • Reply 27 of 44
    htoellehtoelle Posts: 89member
    In light of what is said here in this article. In might be suggested to RIM they should tone down their ads about being the professional Tablet on the market. Or perhaps, it is that being an ""also ran"" is "PROFESSIONAL", in their eyes. Well let them dream they are doing very little harm.
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  • Reply 28 of 44
    Let's consider the pair of phones I have here on my desk.



    One is a Galaxy S.

    The other is an iPhone 4.

    Both are connected to ActiveSync.



    One of these supports on-device encryption natively. One does not.



    Guess which one?



    I send both of them the Remote Wipe command, which both claim to support.

    One of them almost INSTANTLY wipes itself by destroying the AES key, rendering the data unrecoverable.

    The other one does nothing, and reports falsely back that it wiped itself.



    Again, guess which did what.



    Now, guess which one we want in our environment?
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  • Reply 29 of 44
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    In light of what is said here in this article. In might be suggested to RIM they should tone down their ads about being the professional Tablet on the market. Or perhaps, it is that being an ""also ran"" is "PROFESSIONAL", in their eyes. Well let them dream they are doing very little harm.



    Well, bear in mind that prostitutes call themselves "professionals" as well.



    Seems to apply, because RIM is certainly getting [redacted] a lot lately.
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  • Reply 30 of 44
    blastdoorblastdoor Posts: 3,696member
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    First, there are over 3 million companies that use Google Apps for Business



    Ha, yeah right. The only way that number can possibly be right is if you use the broadest possible definition of "company".



    Here are some relevant numbers for the US:



    http://www.census.gov/econ/smallbus.html



    As you can see, the broadest definition of business includes 27 million businesses. But that includes "businesses" with no employees other than the owner. So basically it includes everyone who made a few hundred bucks from consulting and gave themselves a company name in TurboTax.



    So under that ridiculously broad definition, Gapps are used by just 11 percent of "businesses". But that assumes your 3 million number refers to the US. My guess is you went as big as you could, and so it probably refers to the world.



    Tell me how many Fortune 500 or 1000 companies are using Gapps for anything other than novelty/entertainment purposes. I'll wait and listen to the crickets.
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  • Reply 31 of 44
    wakefinancewakefinance Posts: 855member
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    Menno, the paid Google astroturfer, steps in with the company line defense...



    Oh, come on anonymouse. You're equal and opposite (actually a little more than equal). I think you've got DED bulimia. You binge on the articles he writes and then purge all over the comment threads. It's gross.



    (Noted that DED didn't write this one)
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  • Reply 32 of 44
    tjwaltjwal Posts: 404member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by htoelle View Post


    In light of what is said here in this article. In might be suggested to RIM they should tone down their ads about being the professional Tablet on the market. Or perhaps, it is that being an ""also ran"" is "PROFESSIONAL", in their eyes. Well let them dream they are doing very little harm.



    I've often wondered why an ad for a Professional Tablet would show the user playing games.
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  • Reply 33 of 44
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,712member
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    Originally Posted by Blastdoor View Post


    Ha, yeah right. The only way that number can possibly be right is if you use the broadest possible definition of "company".



    Here are some relevant numbers for the US:



    http://www.census.gov/econ/smallbus.html



    As you can see, the broadest definition of business includes 27 million businesses. But that includes "businesses" with no employees other than the owner. So basically it includes everyone who made a few hundred bucks from consulting and gave themselves a company name in TurboTax.



    So under that ridiculously broad definition, Gapps are used by just 11 percent of "businesses". But that assumes your 3 million number refers to the US. My guess is you went as big as you could, and so it probably refers to the world.



    Tell me how many Fortune 500 or 1000 companies are using Gapps for anything other than novelty/entertainment purposes. I'll wait and listen to the crickets.



    His figure apparently came directly from the Google Apps for Business page. http://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/c...ndex.html#tab0



    All you had to do was Google "How many companies use Google Apps for Business" and you could have found it yourself.
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  • Reply 34 of 44
    mennomenno Posts: 854member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Blastdoor View Post


    Ha, yeah right. The only way that number can possibly be right is if you use the broadest possible definition of "company".



    Here are some relevant numbers for the US:



    http://www.census.gov/econ/smallbus.html



    As you can see, the broadest definition of business includes 27 million businesses. But that includes "businesses" with no employees other than the owner. So basically it includes everyone who made a few hundred bucks from consulting and gave themselves a company name in TurboTax.



    So under that ridiculously broad definition, Gapps are used by just 11 percent of "businesses". But that assumes your 3 million number refers to the US. My guess is you went as big as you could, and so it probably refers to the world.



    Tell me how many Fortune 500 or 1000 companies are using Gapps for anything other than novelty/entertainment purposes. I'll wait and listen to the crickets.



    http://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/customers/index.html



    Doing searches is hard. And note, that's just the companies that gave consent for Google to use their name. Not every company wants their brand to be associated with the products they use (even if they have no issues with said products)
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  • Reply 35 of 44
    winterspanwinterspan Posts: 605member
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    According to Blackberry Forums it does not. Uses the Blackberry Desktop Manager instead.



    http://supportforums.blackberry.com/...ync/m-p/164624



    This is incorrect. Blackberry devices connect to a secure Blackberry Enterprise Server that integrates with Microsoft Exchange and enables their push email service.



    The confusion arises from the fact that Microsoft has used the term "Active Sync" for two entirely different things. "Exchange Active Sync" is the push-based email/contact synch protocol that the iPhone/Android uses. Most people think of this when referring to "Active Sync".



    The original "Active Sync", which is referenced in the url you posted, was an application that ran on windows that synchronized email/contact/calendar data between a PocketPC/Windows Mobile device and a PC.
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  • Reply 36 of 44
    quadra 610quadra 610 Posts: 6,759member
    What's a "Huawei" ?



    Sounds like something I shouldn't eat, and basically avoid altogether.
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  • Reply 37 of 44
    ecphorizerecphorizer Posts: 533member
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    Originally Posted by Quadra 610 View Post


    What's a "Huawei" ?



    Our 50th state? Just a guess...
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  • Reply 38 of 44
    majjomajjo Posts: 574member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Quadra 610 View Post


    What's a "Huawei" ?



    Sounds like something I shouldn't eat, and basically avoid altogether.



    http://tinyurl.com/yfhwg5z
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  • Reply 39 of 44
    anonymouseanonymouse Posts: 7,027member
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    Oh, come on anonymouse. You're equal and opposite (actually a little more than equal).



    Well, no, since I have no connection of any kind (other than as a not significant customer) with any of the persons or companies under discussion here, we may be opposed, but we are not equal. One of us (Menno, for the slow and DED haters) engages in dishonesty and deception in ever word he posts.
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  • Reply 40 of 44
    nairbnairb Posts: 253member
    A good report for android. While apple have four times the market penetration for this company, current activations favour apple 2:1. As long as this is lower thn 4:1 android are gaining ground on apple. If it stays at 2:1 then figures will continue to improve for andoid until the total ratio aproaches 2:1.



    But we know, given trends over the last 12 months, that current activations will grow closer to 1:1, then Android will take over from apple. The writing is on the wall. RIP ios
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