Apple makes huge inroads in enterprise as corporate Mac sales surge 66%

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  • Reply 21 of 80
    capnbobcapnbob Posts: 388member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AdonisSMU View Post


    Naturally Apple's Macs grew more than PCs. They have less market share.



    There is nothing natural about it. Being very sub scale enables you to have crazy growth rates like Android did in the early quarters (5000% etc.) but in a mature market with mature players there is no natural order that Apple (who are a top 5 manufacturer already) should be able to outperform the market. When netbooks were going crazy, Acer outgrow everyone because they were selling what the market wanted. The fact that Apple consistently outgrows the market has little to do with being smaller than the market but that they consistently produce items that people want more than the competitive products.



    If you are only referring to the business growth only, your idea is more relevant since Apple is growing from a pretty small base.
  • Reply 22 of 80
    capnbobcapnbob Posts: 388member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by paxman View Post


    That's impressive. If you were a dictionary author I'd be super impressed!



    As awesome and shambolic as English is, don't we all write the dictionary? It just takes a while for the new stuff to get published.
  • Reply 23 of 80
    macrulezmacrulez Posts: 2,455member
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  • Reply 24 of 80
    djmikeodjmikeo Posts: 180member
    I'm seeing in my real estate office. We have over 500 agents and now I see a good 20% using macs in their office while before there were just a couple. Our office staff is also using macs while last year, there were none.
  • Reply 25 of 80
    addaboxaddabox Posts: 12,665member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jstaggie View Post


    Exactly. The headline is completely unsupported by the data in the report. There us no evidence presented here to support a statement that Apple has made "huge" or even significant inroads in Enterprise. At most the evidence would support a statement that Apple has seen an increase in Enterprise sales, but without unit volume comparisons ther is not enough data to reach any valid conclusion as to the level of adoption of Macs in enterprise.



    From the article, which you might consider reading:



    Quote:

    Mac sales are now estimated to be 3 percent of total PC business sales, which is the highest total Apple has seen since the second quarter of 1997.



    Which from the included graph is up from about 1.5% a few years ago, after having been relatively stagnant for the four years prior to that. So while Apple's corporate sales remain a small percentage of the overall market, it's a very impressive increase nonetheless given the entrenched nature of that market and their performance till now. It certainly implies something more than a statistically insignificant blip on a tiny percentage, as some people seem to be implying.
  • Reply 26 of 80
    anantksundaramanantksundaram Posts: 20,407member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Constable Odo View Post


    .... the 66% could be some growth like from 15 Macs were being used and now there are 20 Macs being used. I'm not good at math.....



    The fact that you do know your limitations is much appreciated!
  • Reply 27 of 80
    futuristicfuturistic Posts: 599member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jcsegenmd View Post


    I write dictionaries?have for the last 27 years; torrid is OK



    Torrid:

    1) very hot and dry

    2) full of passionate or highly charged emotions arising from sexual love

    3) full of difficulty or tribulation



    Um. Which of these applies to Apple's growth in the enterprise market?
  • Reply 28 of 80
    djames4242djames4242 Posts: 654member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by djmikeo View Post


    I'm seeing in my real estate office. We have over 500 agents and now I see a good 20% using macs in their office while before there were just a couple. Our office staff is also using macs while last year, there were none.



    That could be helped by the fact that, until just a year or so ago, the MLS website was Internet Explorer only...
  • Reply 29 of 80
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post


    I would wager that a good bit of those Mac sales are for organizations who wish to write their own, in-house, custom iOS apps -- especially iPad apps.



    The post-pc era is upon us!



    That was my first thought. I?d wager the next biggest percentage are for executives or profit-center positions within a company that want/need a laptop, where in-house repair is less of an issue.
  • Reply 30 of 80
    joelsaltjoelsalt Posts: 827member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by paxman View Post


    That's impressive. If you were a dictionary author I'd be super impressed!



    The correct term is lexicographer.
  • Reply 31 of 80
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Futuristic View Post


    Torrid:

    1) very hot and dry

    2) full of passionate or highly charged emotions arising from sexual love

    3) full of difficulty or tribulation



    Um. Which of these applies to Apple's growth in the enterprise market?



    After being #2 I was #1 which made me #3 when attempting to #2 again too soon.
  • Reply 32 of 80
    futuristicfuturistic Posts: 599member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by solipsism View Post


    After being #2 I was #1 which made me #3 when attempting to #2 again too soon.



    LOLz!!
  • Reply 33 of 80
    addaboxaddabox Posts: 12,665member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Futuristic View Post


    Torrid:

    1) very hot and dry

    2) full of passionate or highly charged emotions arising from sexual love

    3) full of difficulty or tribulation



    Um. Which of these applies to Apple's growth in the enterprise market?



    Hot.



    Torrid gets used in this sense all the time, such as describing a baseball player as being on a "torrid hitting streak" or a given competitor "setting a torrid pace." For the same reason we can say someone is "on a hot streak" or "on fire" and not worry unduly about temperature or third degree burns.
  • Reply 34 of 80
    sdbryansdbryan Posts: 351member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ddawson100 View Post


    Oh, I see, the smaller you are the larger percent that you grow naturally? Statistics - how do they work?



    Let's say a company bought 100 Macs and 2000 PCs in the previous year. If Mac sales increase 60% while PC sales increase 5%, then there were 60 more Macs and 100 more PC's sold in the current year. The percentage difference appears huge (60 >> 5) but 60 is less than 100. It is usually useful to look at percentages but let's not forget that the actual numbers tell an important story also.
  • Reply 35 of 80
    addaboxaddabox Posts: 12,665member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by sdbryan View Post


    Let's say a company bought 100 Macs and 2000 PCs in the previous year. If Mac sales increase 60% while PC sales increase 5%, then there were 60 more Macs and 100 more PC's sold in the current year. The percentage difference appears huge (60 >> 5) but 60 is less than 100. It is usually useful to look at percentages but let's not forget that the actual numbers tell an important story also.



    Again, as the article makes clear, Macs now account for about 3% of enterprise sales, having risen from 1.5% just a few years earlier. The article doesn't cite total enterprise PC sales, but I think it's safe to assume we're talking about huge numbers.
  • Reply 36 of 80
    irontedironted Posts: 129member
    Macintosh. Insanely Great!
  • Reply 37 of 80
    katastroffkatastroff Posts: 103member
    AAAAaaaaaAAAAAAAAARG! MY EYES!!!! MY EYES!! THEY BURN!!!!!!!!! AAAAaaaaaAAAAAAAAAARG!



    Can't these guys generate their graphs and charts with Apple Numbers?



    Ugliest.

    Line Graphs.

    Ever.



    And they show this to their clients, and try to look professionnal????
  • Reply 38 of 80
    addaboxaddabox Posts: 12,665member
    I particularly like the way the striping on the bars appears to be a mask that doesn't really line up, producing random checkerboard effects.



    My suspicion is that in certain business quarters years of PC use has led to the impression that "ugly" equals "true." A nice Mac generated graph would probably be regarded as possibly the work of gay elitists with an agenda.



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  • Reply 40 of 80
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
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