Very cool. At the end of the day, iTunes on your Mac/PC should automatically 'see' purchases/updates and give you the option to auto-download them all as a backup if you want, from whichever device you did the actual purchase. But the devices should know what you bought as well and could automatically ask if you want to download your newly purchased app.
Give the App Store the same functionality on iOS that you have on the Mac, and maybe you don't even care if it's in iTunes - you could be prompted whether you want to download it, and if you say later, you could see it in the App Store under a 'purchased items' tab, hopefully with 'recently purchased', 'installed', 'not installed' type filters.
Way way nicer. So hopefully whatever they cooked up is something along those lines or even better.
I don't know. There are apps I want on one device and not the other. I would like the App Store to now if I bought, say, the iPhone/iPad/Mac Universal Angry Birds app and after DLing it on my iPhone if it asked me if I want to push those to my other devices now.
More importantly there are two things I want. 1) In regards to apps and all iTS media, I want the option to have my "state of play" to be synced back to the server when I stop. This means in a game like Angry Birds will have info between everywhere I play that game on an iDevice and Mac. No having to restart from the beginning, even if the app isn't a full Univseral. Game Center could handle this with a push sync service.
2) I want to be able to start a song/audiobook/video on one device and then pick up where I left off (back 3-5 seconds) from the other device. iBooks do this with iBookstore nicely though the Kindle is a better example of this great features as it syncs between Mac and Windows viewing, too.
PS: As an aside I'd also like the devices to get smarter at knowing their location. If I come home and my iPhone connects to my local WiFi network I want Mail to no longer Push emails because I'm now near my Mac.
One thing I love on Android is automatic sync, it's really useful because my apps are always up-to-date without me thinking about it)
It's great for you and I can appreciate how useful it may be, but I prefer to update my apps on my own. Heck, I don't even like to have my Mac OS updates download own their own. For me, it's much safer that I initiate them myself. I can't tell you how many times I decided to update an iOS app and it was a bad update that caused crashing or even one that took away features. Luckily, I still had backups that I could revert back to. To each his own but I like having control over my updates.
I'm having the same confusion...you don't need to sync to update apps right now. What's the big deal about this?
the deal is the greedy sons of bitches at ATT and verizon are upping the price of data to ungodly levels. This means that land based lines like cable and such with wifi will still be better for downloading large updates...ATTs 200MB cap could easily be blown by one iOS update or 30 app updates...which isnt uncommon in a month...so any auto update if implemented, be it just for apps or all of iOS would be wifi only for sure...
App updates on iOS are a mess. I don't want to have to download a 500MB app again just because a developer fixed a tiny bug. It should be possible for them to release a patch, rather than simply forcing users to download the entire application again.
Also, Apple needs to go a long way to get rid of the hideous iTunes client download process on PC and do more to be like http://market.android.com. Android users can purchase an app on this website from any PC and it will be automatically added to their phone without syncing or manual intervention on the phone itself.
I hope there's a way to opt out of automatically updating apps. I never click "Update all" because I've been burned a few times. I always check the ratings for the current version of an app before I update. If it's full of 1-star ratings with comments like "OMG THE UPDATE IS BROKEN FIX THIS!!!" or worse, "OMG I HATE <version-changes> PLS GO BACK TO THE WAY IT USED TO BE" then I will deliberately avoid updating. It unfortunately has happened more often than it should.
I found out that my girlfriend likes hidden object games, so a few weeks ago when I saw that many of them were on sale, I bought some of them, and each of those were around 400-500 MB.
If they can make it right I'm all for it because apps like TomTom probably don't need all that data updated. Even as a jai breaker* I'd really like to see security updates pushed to iDevices much in the same way Mac OS security updates are a separate, small installation.
* I jailbreak but nary a stolen App Store app is on my device.
I certainly hope they make this user configurable. I for one, don't wanna have my updates happening in the background on ATT, while I am online via their service. I far prefer it being done when I am under wifi, or at home synced up.
Downloading OTA takes more time, and interferes (bandwidth wise) with other things you might be doing via data.
It's great for you and I can appreciate how useful it may be, but I prefer to update my apps on my own. Heck, I don't even like to have my Mac OS updates download own their own. For me, it's much safer that I initiate them myself. I can't tell you how many times I decided to update an iOS app and it was a bad update that caused crashing or even one that took away features. Luckily, I still had backups that I could revert back to. To each his own but I like having control over my updates.
I wasn't going to breach the topic but since you've busted it wide open I guess I'll go all in.
Hey Apple ][, can she find the hidden object in this pic?
<nasty dude's crotch shot deleted...>
Hahaha... I also was in the 'I'm not going there' camp (No comment like 'My next magic trick is called make the sausage disappear!'). You, on the other hand... you turned it to 11. Now I need to go puke.
I'm having the same confusion...you don't need to sync to update apps right now. What's the big deal about this?
There is no big deal. It's just a weekend and all the little Apple kids are bored and cranky from waiting for the announcement on Monday. They have nothing else to talk about, but there's no new news.
App updates on iOS are a mess. I don't want to have to download a 500MB app again just because a developer fixed a tiny bug. It should be possible for them to release a patch, rather than simply forcing users to download the entire application again.
Also, Apple needs to go a long way to get rid of the hideous iTunes client download process on PC and do more to be like http://market.android.com. Android users can purchase an app on this website from any PC and it will be automatically added to their phone without syncing or manual intervention on the phone itself.
A patch? You have to be kidding.
But if you are siting Android as a perfect example of how it should be done, I can see how you think that patches is the way to go.
And just how many apps have you gotten that are near 500MB in size?
I stand corrected. You don't have an iPad or an iPhone.
What I don't quite grasp is how you can be so definitive about what Apple has to do or how well Google has done better. But then, I must admit that I really can't say much since I don't have the experience you have had with your Windows Phone 7 on your Samsung OMNIA 7.
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Very cool. At the end of the day, iTunes on your Mac/PC should automatically 'see' purchases/updates and give you the option to auto-download them all as a backup if you want, from whichever device you did the actual purchase. But the devices should know what you bought as well and could automatically ask if you want to download your newly purchased app.
Give the App Store the same functionality on iOS that you have on the Mac, and maybe you don't even care if it's in iTunes - you could be prompted whether you want to download it, and if you say later, you could see it in the App Store under a 'purchased items' tab, hopefully with 'recently purchased', 'installed', 'not installed' type filters.
Way way nicer. So hopefully whatever they cooked up is something along those lines or even better.
I don't know. There are apps I want on one device and not the other. I would like the App Store to now if I bought, say, the iPhone/iPad/Mac Universal Angry Birds app and after DLing it on my iPhone if it asked me if I want to push those to my other devices now.
More importantly there are two things I want. 1) In regards to apps and all iTS media, I want the option to have my "state of play" to be synced back to the server when I stop. This means in a game like Angry Birds will have info between everywhere I play that game on an iDevice and Mac. No having to restart from the beginning, even if the app isn't a full Univseral. Game Center could handle this with a push sync service.
2) I want to be able to start a song/audiobook/video on one device and then pick up where I left off (back 3-5 seconds) from the other device. iBooks do this with iBookstore nicely though the Kindle is a better example of this great features as it syncs between Mac and Windows viewing, too.
PS: As an aside I'd also like the devices to get smarter at knowing their location. If I come home and my iPhone connects to my local WiFi network I want Mail to no longer Push emails because I'm now near my Mac.
One thing I love on Android is automatic sync, it's really useful because my apps are always up-to-date without me thinking about it)
It's great for you and I can appreciate how useful it may be, but I prefer to update my apps on my own. Heck, I don't even like to have my Mac OS updates download own their own. For me, it's much safer that I initiate them myself. I can't tell you how many times I decided to update an iOS app and it was a bad update that caused crashing or even one that took away features. Luckily, I still had backups that I could revert back to. To each his own but I like having control over my updates.
I'm having the same confusion...you don't need to sync to update apps right now. What's the big deal about this?
the deal is the greedy sons of bitches at ATT and verizon are upping the price of data to ungodly levels. This means that land based lines like cable and such with wifi will still be better for downloading large updates...ATTs 200MB cap could easily be blown by one iOS update or 30 app updates...which isnt uncommon in a month...so any auto update if implemented, be it just for apps or all of iOS would be wifi only for sure...
App updates on iOS are a mess. I don't want to have to download a 500MB app again just because a developer fixed a tiny bug. It should be possible for them to release a patch, rather than simply forcing users to download the entire application again.
Also, Apple needs to go a long way to get rid of the hideous iTunes client download process on PC and do more to be like http://market.android.com. Android users can purchase an app on this website from any PC and it will be automatically added to their phone without syncing or manual intervention on the phone itself.
Oh no. No patching. All or nothing, no patching.
I found out that my girlfriend likes hidden object games, so a few weeks ago when I saw that many of them were on sale, I bought some of them, and each of those were around 400-500 MB.
Hey, someone had to do it.
Oh no. No patching. All or nothing, no patching.
If they can make it right I'm all for it because apps like TomTom probably don't need all that data updated. Even as a jai breaker* I'd really like to see security updates pushed to iDevices much in the same way Mac OS security updates are a separate, small installation.
* I jailbreak but nary a stolen App Store app is on my device.
Hey, someone had to do it.
I wasn't going to breach the topic but since you've busted it wide open I guess I'll go all in.
Hey Apple ][, can she find the hidden object in this pic?
Downloading OTA takes more time, and interferes (bandwidth wise) with other things you might be doing via data.
I wasn't going to breach the topic but since you've broken it wide open I guess I'll go all in.
Hey Apple ][, can she find the hidden object in this pic?
Odd contents for your 23,000th post, but...
It's great for you and I can appreciate how useful it may be, but I prefer to update my apps on my own. Heck, I don't even like to have my Mac OS updates download own their own. For me, it's much safer that I initiate them myself. I can't tell you how many times I decided to update an iOS app and it was a bad update that caused crashing or even one that took away features. Luckily, I still had backups that I could revert back to. To each his own but I like having control over my updates.
Android allows a choice of either method.
I found out that my girlfriend likes hidden object games.
I wasn't going to breach the topic but since you've busted it wide open I guess I'll go all in.
Hey Apple ][, can she find the hidden object in this pic?
Hahaha... I also was in the 'I'm not going there' camp (No comment like 'My next magic trick is called make the sausage disappear!'). You, on the other hand... you turned it to 11. Now I need to go puke.
I wasn't going to breach the topic but since you've busted it wide open I guess I'll go all in.
Hey Apple ][, can she find the hidden object in this pic?
delete the weiner
delete the weiner
I'm going to be forced to ask you how in the world you think that could ever be possible.
I'm going to be forced to ask you how in the world you think that could ever be possible.
i know i know
mustard ??
I'm having the same confusion...you don't need to sync to update apps right now. What's the big deal about this?
There is no big deal. It's just a weekend and all the little Apple kids are bored and cranky from waiting for the announcement on Monday. They have nothing else to talk about, but there's no new news.
Ergo, the childish penis joke by solipsism.
App updates on iOS are a mess. I don't want to have to download a 500MB app again just because a developer fixed a tiny bug. It should be possible for them to release a patch, rather than simply forcing users to download the entire application again.
Also, Apple needs to go a long way to get rid of the hideous iTunes client download process on PC and do more to be like http://market.android.com. Android users can purchase an app on this website from any PC and it will be automatically added to their phone without syncing or manual intervention on the phone itself.
A patch? You have to be kidding.
But if you are siting Android as a perfect example of how it should be done, I can see how you think that patches is the way to go.
And just how many apps have you gotten that are near 500MB in size?
I stand corrected. You don't have an iPad or an iPhone.
What I don't quite grasp is how you can be so definitive about what Apple has to do or how well Google has done better. But then, I must admit that I really can't say much since I don't have the experience you have had with your Windows Phone 7 on your Samsung OMNIA 7.