Every time I run an app that opens in full screen, I have a few harsh words that I mumble to the developer of that product. They're few & far between, yes, but it seems that Apple is trying to make that mainstream. I'll hate it. It's another reason I cuss Windows when I have the misfortune to sit in front of one. I certainly hope that this feature is something I have to do to make happen and not something that's going to appear without being invited.
You can choose to run in fullscreen or windowed. It's a button in the upper left, right where it was shown to be since Lion was first demoed.
It took me some getting use to but eventually I found myself wishing more apps had the option. I was nearly ecstatic when iTunes was updated to allow this option in Lion.
The one reason I consider switching from Safari is Chrome, Firefox, and now Explorer all have tabs on top. It makes more sense. When Apple tried tabs on top, half the populace preferred it. Still Apple killed it. Apple should have made it an option and people like me wouldn't' be experimenting with other browsers. The others would have come around. It was one of the first times I saw Apple cave to the masses design critiques.
I hate tabs on top. Absolutely hate it. I will never "come around". Since other people like it, though, choice would be nice.
Just one thing - you don't gain any screen real estate, at least with firefox 4. That takes up exactly as much verical space as Safari does - in fact, even a flittle bit more. It still has a title bar and three dots above everything else.
You can choose to run in fullscreen or windowed. It's a button in the upper left, right where it was shown to be since Lion was first demoed.
It took me some getting use to but eventually I found myself wishing more apps had the option. I was nearly ecstatic when iTunes was updated to allow this option in Lion.
May I ask; are you using a laptop? Asking since I am behind a 30" ACD and can't see the value of full screen apps, you know, with the amount of screen real estate I have. Since you give such a wealth of useful information I'd like to know your view on full screen mode. Hehe, your view. I guess that is pun intended.
May I ask; are you using a laptop? Asking since I am behind a 30" ACD and can't see the value of full screen apps, you know, with the amount of screen real estate I have. Since you give such a wealth of useful information I'd like to know your view on full screen mode. Hehe, your view. I guess that is pun intended.
Thanks!
Phil
Yeah, it's probably best for those that are on smaller displays. I use a 13" MBP because I like the convenience of portability. I'd think 30" would be excessive.
Too bad they don't offer an easy way to have two or three side-by-side on the display. Like a setting in System Preferences that lets you choose from one or two bars that virtually separate the display into sections so when you go full screen they only take up x-many pixels along the x-axis. Perhaps even with a slider so you can adjust how much each section gets.
In case it was missed, They stated yesterday that 73% of Mac purchases are notebooks. If we consider that cheaper Macs probably sell more than more expensive Macs and that they have the 13" display for 3 distinct model types it seems to safe to say I'm the average consumer in this case.
PS: If only 23% are non-portable Macs what percentage of Macs sold are Mac Pro. I think those wanting the big Mac may find themselves disappointed in the future.
Never had problems with Safari memory consumption. Right now 4 tabs open (AI, MacRumours, and 2 copies of TUAW). Memory usage is under 250 MB. I also have 8 extensions installed too.
You're lucky.
My excessive use could be due to the extensive use Safari gets. It's on constantly with dozens of sites visited daily. It used to be that the most memory it would use was about 900 MB.
Now that I've bumped up my memory from 4GB to 12GB it seems that Safari wants more of it, and that's after disabling Top Sites.
At least now with the additional memory I added, I'm not running out, which is great.
You know, I sure hope ical, itunes, safari, the ilife suite etc do not force you to run your apps in full screen mode all the time, if so that will be very very very annoying
You know, I sure hope ical, itunes, safari, the ilife suite etc do not force you to run your apps in full screen mode all the time, if so that will be very very very annoying
I've read a few things, but they're always highlighting full screen mode, I know about misson control and how it manages full screen apps, etc. Not good enough, sometimes I want to see other windows behind the current applications, I even have notifiers in my menu bar, so I don't want my menu bar hidden all the time.
I don't have a lot of time to read about all this I am so busy all the time. I'm mostly just waiting to be suprised. I plan to upgrade to Lion as soon as it's released after making sure my time machine backup is current, and if I don't like it, I'll just restore back to snow leopard until I'm ready to switch.
I've read a few things, but they're always highlighting full screen mode, I know about misson control and how it manages full screen apps, etc. Not good enough, sometimes I want to see other windows behind the current applications, I even have notifiers in my menu bar, so I don't want my menu bar hidden all the time.
I don't have a lot of time to read about all this I am so busy all the time. I'm mostly just waiting to be suprised. I plan to upgrade to Lion as soon as it's released after making sure my time machine backup is current, and if I don't like it, I'll just restore back to snow leopard until I'm ready to switch.
Well, to recap since you don't want to go to Apple's website and see for yourself, no, Full Screen is not mandatory. I've never used it for any application, myself.
Oh, but Photo Booth's broken when it isn't full screen in Dev Preview 4. That'll probably be fixed.
You know, I sure hope ical, itunes, safari, the ilife suite etc do not force you to run your apps in full screen mode all the time, if so that will be very very very annoying
They don't
Actually, in watching the keynote (I know, flies in the face of Internet message board tradition - my bad) Phil demoed a swipe to switch between open apps that looked very cool. Also, full screen mode isn't just automating the maximizing of a window like on a certain other operating systems either.
Even with my new 30" display, I find myself still running my major applications full screen. I definitely do on my MacBook Pro. That's why I, personally, am looking forward to the option to run apps in full screen mode. For those who it's not appealing, you can ignore the new full screen icon in the upper right hand corner of the window and everything works the way it is today.
Yeah, it's probably best for those that are on smaller displays. I use a 13" MBP because I like the convenience of portability. I'd think 30" would be excessive.
Too bad they don't offer an easy way to have two or three side-by-side on the display. Like a setting in System Preferences that lets you choose from one or two bars that virtually separate the display into sections so when you go full screen they only take up x-many pixels along the x-axis. Perhaps even with a slider so you can adjust how much each section gets.
In case it was missed, They stated yesterday that 73% of Mac purchases are notebooks. If we consider that cheaper Macs probably sell more than more expensive Macs and that they have the 13" display for 3 distinct model types it seems to safe to say I'm the average consumer in this case.
PS: If only 23% are non-portable Macs what percentage of Macs sold are Mac Pro. I think those wanting the big Mac may find themselves disappointed in the future.
Indeed, with that many laptops sold I see the 'need' for Full Screen apps as an option. Your idea on virtually separating the display into sections is great. But then again, with the small amount of desktops sold I don't think they will create such an option. (Probably why a friend of mine opted for two 23" monitors instead of one 30").
It is a little concerning, to me, that the MacPro could possibly die a sudden death. Then again, I can't imagine the engineers at Apple write software on laptops/Minis/iMacs. They did however kill their blade server, which came as a surprise to me, in spite of my expectation that wouldn't sell well.
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Every time I run an app that opens in full screen, I have a few harsh words that I mumble to the developer of that product. They're few & far between, yes, but it seems that Apple is trying to make that mainstream. I'll hate it. It's another reason I cuss Windows when I have the misfortune to sit in front of one. I certainly hope that this feature is something I have to do to make happen and not something that's going to appear without being invited.
You can choose to run in fullscreen or windowed. It's a button in the upper left, right where it was shown to be since Lion was first demoed.
It took me some getting use to but eventually I found myself wishing more apps had the option. I was nearly ecstatic when iTunes was updated to allow this option in Lion.
The one reason I consider switching from Safari is Chrome, Firefox, and now Explorer all have tabs on top. It makes more sense. When Apple tried tabs on top, half the populace preferred it. Still Apple killed it. Apple should have made it an option and people like me wouldn't' be experimenting with other browsers. The others would have come around. It was one of the first times I saw Apple cave to the masses design critiques.
I hate tabs on top. Absolutely hate it. I will never "come around". Since other people like it, though, choice would be nice.
Just one thing - you don't gain any screen real estate, at least with firefox 4. That takes up exactly as much verical space as Safari does - in fact, even a flittle bit more. It still has a title bar and three dots above everything else.
You can choose to run in fullscreen or windowed. It's a button in the upper left, right where it was shown to be since Lion was first demoed.
It took me some getting use to but eventually I found myself wishing more apps had the option. I was nearly ecstatic when iTunes was updated to allow this option in Lion.
May I ask; are you using a laptop? Asking since I am behind a 30" ACD and can't see the value of full screen apps, you know, with the amount of screen real estate I have. Since you give such a wealth of useful information I'd like to know your view on full screen mode. Hehe, your view. I guess that is pun intended.
Thanks!
Phil
May I ask; are you using a laptop? Asking since I am behind a 30" ACD and can't see the value of full screen apps, you know, with the amount of screen real estate I have. Since you give such a wealth of useful information I'd like to know your view on full screen mode. Hehe, your view. I guess that is pun intended.
Thanks!
Phil
Yeah, it's probably best for those that are on smaller displays. I use a 13" MBP because I like the convenience of portability. I'd think 30" would be excessive.
Too bad they don't offer an easy way to have two or three side-by-side on the display. Like a setting in System Preferences that lets you choose from one or two bars that virtually separate the display into sections so when you go full screen they only take up x-many pixels along the x-axis. Perhaps even with a slider so you can adjust how much each section gets.
In case it was missed, They stated yesterday that 73% of Mac purchases are notebooks. If we consider that cheaper Macs probably sell more than more expensive Macs and that they have the 13" display for 3 distinct model types it seems to safe to say I'm the average consumer in this case.
PS: If only 23% are non-portable Macs what percentage of Macs sold are Mac Pro. I think those wanting the big Mac may find themselves disappointed in the future.
a new process architecture that separates the browser's rendering process from its application process, making Safari more responsive and stable.
I'll believe it when I see it (or rather I don't see the spinning beach ball of death
Never had problems with Safari memory consumption. Right now 4 tabs open (AI, MacRumours, and 2 copies of TUAW). Memory usage is under 250 MB. I also have 8 extensions installed too.
You're lucky.
My excessive use could be due to the extensive use Safari gets. It's on constantly with dozens of sites visited daily. It used to be that the most memory it would use was about 900 MB.
Now that I've bumped up my memory from 4GB to 12GB it seems that Safari wants more of it, and that's after disabling Top Sites.
At least now with the additional memory I added, I'm not running out, which is great.
You know, I sure hope ical, itunes, safari, the ilife suite etc do not force you to run your apps in full screen mode all the time, if so that will be very very very annoying
Uh, have you read anything about Lion at all?
Uh, have you read anything about Lion at all?
I've read a few things, but they're always highlighting full screen mode, I know about misson control and how it manages full screen apps, etc. Not good enough, sometimes I want to see other windows behind the current applications, I even have notifiers in my menu bar, so I don't want my menu bar hidden all the time.
I don't have a lot of time to read about all this I am so busy all the time. I'm mostly just waiting to be suprised. I plan to upgrade to Lion as soon as it's released after making sure my time machine backup is current, and if I don't like it, I'll just restore back to snow leopard until I'm ready to switch.
I've read a few things, but they're always highlighting full screen mode, I know about misson control and how it manages full screen apps, etc. Not good enough, sometimes I want to see other windows behind the current applications, I even have notifiers in my menu bar, so I don't want my menu bar hidden all the time.
I don't have a lot of time to read about all this I am so busy all the time. I'm mostly just waiting to be suprised. I plan to upgrade to Lion as soon as it's released after making sure my time machine backup is current, and if I don't like it, I'll just restore back to snow leopard until I'm ready to switch.
Well, to recap since you don't want to go to Apple's website and see for yourself, no, Full Screen is not mandatory. I've never used it for any application, myself.
Oh, but Photo Booth's broken when it isn't full screen in Dev Preview 4. That'll probably be fixed.
You know, I sure hope ical, itunes, safari, the ilife suite etc do not force you to run your apps in full screen mode all the time, if so that will be very very very annoying
They don't
Actually, in watching the keynote (I know, flies in the face of Internet message board tradition - my bad) Phil demoed a swipe to switch between open apps that looked very cool. Also, full screen mode isn't just automating the maximizing of a window like on a certain other operating systems either.
Even with my new 30" display, I find myself still running my major applications full screen. I definitely do on my MacBook Pro. That's why I, personally, am looking forward to the option to run apps in full screen mode. For those who it's not appealing, you can ignore the new full screen icon in the upper right hand corner of the window and everything works the way it is today.
Yeah, it's probably best for those that are on smaller displays. I use a 13" MBP because I like the convenience of portability. I'd think 30" would be excessive.
Too bad they don't offer an easy way to have two or three side-by-side on the display. Like a setting in System Preferences that lets you choose from one or two bars that virtually separate the display into sections so when you go full screen they only take up x-many pixels along the x-axis. Perhaps even with a slider so you can adjust how much each section gets.
In case it was missed, They stated yesterday that 73% of Mac purchases are notebooks. If we consider that cheaper Macs probably sell more than more expensive Macs and that they have the 13" display for 3 distinct model types it seems to safe to say I'm the average consumer in this case.
PS: If only 23% are non-portable Macs what percentage of Macs sold are Mac Pro. I think those wanting the big Mac may find themselves disappointed in the future.
Indeed, with that many laptops sold I see the 'need' for Full Screen apps as an option. Your idea on virtually separating the display into sections is great. But then again, with the small amount of desktops sold I don't think they will create such an option. (Probably why a friend of mine opted for two 23" monitors instead of one 30").
It is a little concerning, to me, that the MacPro could possibly die a sudden death. Then again, I can't imagine the engineers at Apple write software on laptops/Minis/iMacs. They did however kill their blade server, which came as a surprise to me, in spite of my expectation that wouldn't sell well.
Sorry, I digress
I'll believe it when I see it (or rather I don't see the spinning beach ball of death
WebKit2 is an improvement upon Chrome's solution.