More evidence emerges of hybrid GSM-CDMA 'iPhone 4S'

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  • Reply 21 of 31
    sipsip Posts: 210member
    Externally, Apple products are the best looking compared to the rest of the market. Although I'm still using a 3GS, family members have the iPhone4 and it is a joy to both look at and hold in your hand. That aluminium is just so silky.



    I believe that the current design could go on for 2-3 years more and still beat every other smartphone for looks. Other Apple products have used the same design for 2-3 generations:



    The white iMac G5 became white iMac Intel Core Duo, then C2D, 17" 21" 24"



    Aluminium iMac saw several processor upgrades but same screen size as white iMac 17" 21" 24"



    Current Aluminium iMac 20.5" & 27" but similar design to previous generation



    Macbooks/Macbook Pros



    G3/G4 towers went from bondi-blue to grey then silver. The front panels changed but the side door with the motherboard on it didn't change much, if at all.



    Aluminium G5 Tower still being used today, albeit with twin DVD trays rather than the single on the original. The insides, though have been totally re-dsigned.
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  • Reply 22 of 31
    jetzjetz Posts: 1,293member
    This seems like a bad strategy and a waste of resources....making all iPhones capable of CDMA for a small subset of customers.



    Why don't they just make one model for CDMA users that include all CDMA bands (like China for example) and another for GSM users that's world band (like the Nokia N8)?
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  • Reply 23 of 31
    jetzjetz Posts: 1,293member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mjtomlin View Post


    Well in case you haven't noticed, Apple can't add third party features to their OS without coming across as EVIL. Furthermore, there's the liability of such a thing, even Google doesn't recommend using their service for real-time directions.



    Say what now? There are specific navigation modes for driving and walking. The restriction on real-time directions has to do with maps, not Navigation.





    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mjtomlin View Post


    iCloud is a very different service than what Google offers. iCould isn't a cloud storage service, it's a cloud based distribution service making sure that data and information is in sync across all your iOS devices, Macs and PCs. Google's services never leave the browser. Network computing never took off because of the unreliable networks they were running off of. It hasn't improved much thanks to the greedy telecoms (at least in the states).





    For contacts and email, Google works the same way as iCloud, with the added bonus that you can look at your stuff through any browser. For photos and music, Apple offers a better solution. But Apple will never let you stream your music or look at your photos through a browser.
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  • Reply 24 of 31
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jetz View Post


    This seems like a bad strategy and a waste of resources....making all iPhones capable of CDMA for a small subset of customers.



    2 billion is a small subset?
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  • Reply 25 of 31
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


    2 billion is a small subset?



    Are you counting all users or all devices? Are you counting devices on networks that have CDMA for '2G' but UMTS/HS*PA for '3G'?
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  • Reply 26 of 31
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by solipsism View Post


    Are you counting all users or all devices? Are you counting devices on networks that have CDMA for '2G' but UMTS/HS*PA for '3G'?



    I'm counting as many people as I see having access to CDMA between the U.S., China, India, South Korea, and the other few places with it.
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  • Reply 27 of 31
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


    I'm counting as many people as I see having access to CDMA between the U.S., China, India, South Korea, and the other few places with it.



    That's a disingenuious count for 2011 when we even emerging markets like China are moving into '3G' and developed countries are moving steadily into '4G'. Take your South Korea mention, for example, Their 2 largest carriers have CDMA for '2G' but the aforementioned UMTS/HS*PA for '3G' which is why the iPhone works on KT. It can't even go down to a '2G' network like other devices because the '2G' hardware is GSM(GPRS/EDGE).



    Another way of looking at it is: If the next iPhone is Gobi-based with GSM/CDMA/UMTS/EVDO will that really be a boon for CDMA in countries without any CDMA or CDMA2000 networks? Will count them as "having access" to CDMA simply because the device has access to it? If you really want to see the landscape you can't just blindly look at '2G' HW in a device.
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  • Reply 28 of 31
    multimediamultimedia Posts: 1,061member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Frisian Dew View Post


    ... Hope the ATT merger falls through because of the FCC



    Why? Have you read AT&T's new submission to the FCC? Almost everyone is supportive of the merger. Except you of course.



    AT&T files statement with FCC in support of T-Mobile acquisition



    You might change your mind after reading this.
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  • Reply 29 of 31
    asdasdasdasd Posts: 5,686member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by solipsism View Post


    That's a disingenuious count for 2011 when we even emerging markets like China are moving into '3G' and developed countries are moving steadily into '4G'.



    Unless all that is completed by October Apple should release what they have planned.
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  • Reply 30 of 31
    I was expecting a real update from the iphone 4, so far looks like this iphone on sprint is going to be really behind technology and features compared to phones like HTC Evo 3D and other Android’s that are coming to Sprint.

    Also, no 4G?

    I still don’t get it about this "updated iphone", is really disappointment.
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  • Reply 31 of 31
    unotherunother Posts: 40member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by TBell View Post


    It is not reasonable to expect that especially if a design is working. Apple hasn't significantly changed the MacBooks around in years. With that said, HTC and Samsung have been aggressive in trying to out do Apple. I find those phones lack in quality of materials in comparison to Apple's iPhone, but I do like some of the slightly larger screens.



    What? Exactly how is the last relic MacBook like the MacBooks of yore?



    Perhaps you meant the MBPs. I'd agree with you with a minor caveat--Apple didn't redsign the 15/17's appearance dramatically but they also don't have any real interest in "innovating" here. All the growth's been mobile devices for them--and look at the morphology there...
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