Did your camera make phone calls, was it as small of a profile, have apps, a gyroscope, etc. Clearly your camera is a camera. Apple iPhone are all in one devices.
That's like saying, I have a samurai sword that cuts better than my swiss army knife.. Yeah, no shit sherlock.
You'll find the K800i is a mobile phone from Sony Ericsson.
Do you know you are comparing a digital camera with a cellphone camera? The major difference is the lens. Do you realize how much bigger the digital camera lens is than the iPhone 3G? The quality of a picture has a lot to do with how much light the camera captures. The iPhone 4 camera sensor uses bsi technology which gathers twice as much light. That is why the picture is much better than the 3G camera.
Yep - the iPhone 4 also has a flash which also helps.
I'm also aware that a digital camera has a bigger lens than an iPhone (due to the size of the phone). I understand that the next iPhone will be the same thickness (or even thinner) than the iPhone 4 but I'm prepared to have a slightly thicker phone with a better camera!!
I'm aware that the iPhone is essentially a phone first - but with all this talk of iCloud and Photo Streaming etc. I think Apple should invest more in this area (which I'm sure they currently are).
For me personally, taking stunning pictures (and recording awesome HD video) is something I want in the next iPhone (as well as better battery life etc). The thought of not having to carry around a separate digital camera/camcorder is something I'm looking forward to!
I have faith in Apple and I look forward to see what they present to us in the near future. Either way, I'll be first in line when the next iPhone is released!!
I would submit these are the "fundamental features" as they are the ones apple chooses to tout. Notably absent is "still shots"
Really, the only mention of still shots is "snapshots" and the photo-booth application, i.e. silly shots that no one gives a rats ass about the quality of, because the quality of the pictures is not the point.
Apple certainly realizes precious few still pictures are ever going to be taken with that camera. iPads have lower profit margins than most apple products, and certainly, as long as it produces good facetime chats, not caring all that much about the still shot quality is certainly a defensible design choice.
People really do get hung up on Megapixels and believe that is the sole parameter for good pictures. However, lens quality has a bigger impact on digital picture quality than the amount of megapixels. Even 12 MP cameras can create lousy pictures due to lousy optics.
Those are no excuse for having such noisy and fuzzy still image shots, with still shots being a fundamental feature of iPad 2.
Doesn't matter now. With Photo Stream just use your iPhone to shoot and iPad to edit. I know there's a minority who love to shoot picture on a clunky form like iPad but Apple can't please everyone. (for a record, I wouldn't even thinking about shooting pictures with iPad)
Off topic: it's interesting to see many people use their iPad2 to facetime, rather than shooting video, when Steve Jobs on stage at WWDC.
As I've said before though, shutter speed is always too slow in average outdoor and indoor lighting, so I have to take a few pictures to get one without blur/shake.
As for the flash, fairly unusable for typical restaurant/club pictures because of haziness, and/or red-eye/yellow-eye issues.
Most of the acceptable shots I get indoor, especially in a club, is from just rapid-shooting without a flash, and choosing pictures which are illuminated by other flash bulbs from other cameras. Portraiture (ie. taking pictures of friends etc.) with the iPhone 4 flash is not usually that great.
FWIW 720p HD is nice, with or without the flash. Though having the flash on all the time while videoing in a club is too bright, and not very polite when shooting the DJ.
Off topic: it's interesting to see many people use their iPad2 to facetime, rather than shooting video, when Steve Jobs on stage at WWDC.
Because the iPad2 video quality is absolutely horrible, and indeed the form factor as many might suspect is not conducive to any kind of serious work except for propping it up and doing podcasts/ product demos (even then the video quality is too poor even for YouTube).
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Did your camera make phone calls, was it as small of a profile, have apps, a gyroscope, etc. Clearly your camera is a camera. Apple iPhone are all in one devices.
That's like saying, I have a samurai sword that cuts better than my swiss army knife.. Yeah, no shit sherlock.
You'll find the K800i is a mobile phone from Sony Ericsson.
Do you know you are comparing a digital camera with a cellphone camera? The major difference is the lens. Do you realize how much bigger the digital camera lens is than the iPhone 3G? The quality of a picture has a lot to do with how much light the camera captures. The iPhone 4 camera sensor uses bsi technology which gathers twice as much light. That is why the picture is much better than the 3G camera.
Yep - the iPhone 4 also has a flash which also helps.
I'm also aware that a digital camera has a bigger lens than an iPhone (due to the size of the phone). I understand that the next iPhone will be the same thickness (or even thinner) than the iPhone 4 but I'm prepared to have a slightly thicker phone with a better camera!!
I'm aware that the iPhone is essentially a phone first - but with all this talk of iCloud and Photo Streaming etc. I think Apple should invest more in this area (which I'm sure they currently are).
For me personally, taking stunning pictures (and recording awesome HD video) is something I want in the next iPhone (as well as better battery life etc). The thought of not having to carry around a separate digital camera/camcorder is something I'm looking forward to!
I have faith in Apple and I look forward to see what they present to us in the near future. Either way, I'll be first in line when the next iPhone is released!!
Those are no excuse for having such noisy and fuzzy still image shots, with still shots being a fundamental feature of iPad 2.
Where in the world are you getting the notion that still shots are a "fundamental feature"?
For example, at http://www.apple.com/ipad/
the splash page page touts "Thinner, lighter, faster, facetime, smart covers, 10 hour battery"
I would submit these are the "fundamental features" as they are the ones apple chooses to tout. Notably absent is "still shots"
Really, the only mention of still shots is "snapshots" and the photo-booth application, i.e. silly shots that no one gives a rats ass about the quality of, because the quality of the pictures is not the point.
Apple certainly realizes precious few still pictures are ever going to be taken with that camera. iPads have lower profit margins than most apple products, and certainly, as long as it produces good facetime chats, not caring all that much about the still shot quality is certainly a defensible design choice.
Those are no excuse for having such noisy and fuzzy still image shots, with still shots being a fundamental feature of iPad 2.
Doesn't matter now. With Photo Stream just use your iPhone to shoot and iPad to edit. I know there's a minority who love to shoot picture on a clunky form like iPad but Apple can't please everyone. (for a record, I wouldn't even thinking about shooting pictures with iPad)
Off topic: it's interesting to see many people use their iPad2 to facetime, rather than shooting video, when Steve Jobs on stage at WWDC.
As I've said before though, shutter speed is always too slow in average outdoor and indoor lighting, so I have to take a few pictures to get one without blur/shake.
As for the flash, fairly unusable for typical restaurant/club pictures because of haziness, and/or red-eye/yellow-eye issues.
Most of the acceptable shots I get indoor, especially in a club, is from just rapid-shooting without a flash, and choosing pictures which are illuminated by other flash bulbs from other cameras. Portraiture (ie. taking pictures of friends etc.) with the iPhone 4 flash is not usually that great.
FWIW 720p HD is nice, with or without the flash. Though having the flash on all the time while videoing in a club is too bright, and not very polite when shooting the DJ.
Off topic: it's interesting to see many people use their iPad2 to facetime, rather than shooting video, when Steve Jobs on stage at WWDC.
Because the iPad2 video quality is absolutely horrible, and indeed the form factor as many might suspect is not conducive to any kind of serious work except for propping it up and doing podcasts/ product demos (even then the video quality is too poor even for YouTube).