I'd like to point out the post above yours, showing what a bit of HTML5 and JS can accomplish. Thats just as good as most FPS games in the App Store. You'll just be lacking the gyro and accelerometer.
HTML5 is great, and a huge improvement over Flash, but there is always going to be a gap between what you can do in it and what you can do natively.
What the hell are you rambling on about? Who the hell do you think brought HTML5 to the World? Apple. Dave Hyatt co-wrote the standard brought to the W3C.
According to Wikipedia, "Ian Hickson of Google, Inc., is the editor of HTML5." Of course they could be mistaken.
I think he means there's a difference between author and editor.
Are they mutually exclusive? According to this article, David Hyatt (w/Apple) is also an Editor for HTML5? I just don't find any source that says Apple created HTML5.
[...] Facebook has "pissed off" Apple in the past and suffered repercussions as a result. According to the report, Facebook is scared of Apple and has to "tread lightly." [...]
Way back in the day at Macworld NY in 2000, ATI published a press release stating that their new Radeon graphics cards would be installed in three new Mac models. Two days before Steve Jobs' keynote. Steve was so angry about this that he removed any mention of ATI or Radeon from his keynote. He also ordered all Radeon cards to be replaced with other cards in all Macs on the show floor, and all signage at the Apple both had the words "ATI" and "Radeon" blacked out. It took years for the Apple - ATI relationship to warm up again.
In 2005, Motorola did such a bad job designing, building, and marketing the first "iTunes phone" (the ROKR) that it was a sales dud. Steve said as little as possible about it, saying far more about the new iPod nano that was released at the same time. Moto, you could have evolved ROKR into iPhone if you hadn't pissed Steve off.
It really feels like Facebook pissed Steve off too. They're doing extremely well in an area where Apple is doing very poorly: social networking. Ping just isn't cutting it, Apple and Facebook know it, and Facebook is using that as a bargaining tool.
No big deal for Apple. Safari renders Facebook.com just fine. The real big deal is that Apple can now leverage iOS installed base and Facebook's popularity against Flash. iOS + HTML5 on Facebook will help speed up the inevitable decline and fall of Flash.
Are they mutually exclusive? According to this article, David Hyatt (w/Apple) is also an Editor for HTML5? I just don't find any source that says Apple created HTML5.
I don't think Apple exclusively created HTML5. No one is saying that. But he definitely contributed to HTML5 in addition to Google's Ian Hickson. And anyway, no one could've created HTML5, because it's an evolution of previous HTML language versions.
I don't think Apple exclusively created HTML5. No one is saying that. But he definitely contributed to HTML5 in addition to Google's Ian Hickson. And anyway, no one could've created HTML5, because it's an evolution of previous HTML language versions.
Which is why I had questioned MDriftMeyer's statement earlier in the thread, leading Anonymouse to suggest I didn't understand:
"Who the hell do you think brought HTML5 to the World? Apple."
Sorry to all the people bothering with this "Spartan" project but history shows us that if Apple has done something and you are playing catch-up, you've left it too late.
Apple has fingers in many pies and makes many different products.
Facebook is a 1 trick pony that makes money by pushing adverts at you and selling your information to other companies.
Facebook may be worth a lot of money now but then, so was Myspace. Once everyone has joined Facebook and got bored of the few things it offers, it will start to die.
But not before it has helped kill off flash so lets just say that FB is a martyr and took one for the team.
Ironically, I can't get neither of these two things to work on my MBP with Flash player 10.whatever
The video looks nice though, but as far as I can see this is all pre-beta stuff that has been in development for ages (the away3d site says the first version was in 2007) and yet it's still not mainstream. It's all nice and dandy that Adobe can pull off some pretty crazy stuff with Flash, but as long as it's all experimental and in a completely controlled environment, it doesn't mean much to me. Just looking at how much trouble Adobe has supporting more than the Windows runtime and the Android runtime for a few Android phones, I don't expect any of this 3D stuff to work across the board on any device with Flash before the year 2020.
Anyway, I don't see why you would even want to write high-end 3D games in something like Flash or HTML5, even though it's technically possible. It's a waste of processing power.
In a follow-up report, Siegler hinted that Facebook may have held the iPad app back as leverage with Apple.
"Apple has wanted this app since the initial iPad launch just over a year ago," the report read. "At first, Facebook made it sound as if they weren?t going to do one at all. But they have been working on it for months. And there?s no reason it should have taken that long.
These guys are playing with fire. They is gonna get burned. Steve can chew them up and spit them out.
If they think that they can get leverage against Steve by denying him their stupid app, they are just plain mistaken. The iPad has plenty of apps, if they haven't noticed.
Sure - a Facebook app would be nice, but Facebook needs Apple big time, and Steve couldn't give a damn about FaceBook.
Blackmailing behavior like they do should be illegal. It certainly is immoral.
What I get from it is that Apple will not enable full HTML5 to everybody, unless they get a cut just like with the iOS apps. Talking about the full web and open standards. Just like in the beginning that only Apple apps could work on the background of iOS.
Then you need to work on both your reading comprehension and general technical knowledge...
HTML 5 is the new standard and most websites offer both.
Nowadays there are very few websites which you can't view a videos, Flash is dying and only good for ads and porn and those who refuse to adopt HTML 5 to reach out to the IOS devices. Their refusal to do so is their loss.
Which is why I had questioned MDriftMeyer's statement earlier in the thread, leading Anonymouse to suggest I didn't understand:
"Who the hell do you think brought HTML5 to the World? Apple."
Hyatt wrote the initial spec, brought it to Google's Ian Hickson who both extended it with the rest of the community. Hickson is now the point man editor of the spec after they brought it out for general consumption and after Dave resigned.
Hyatt also created XUL, XBL adn co-created Firefox before leaving to work on WebKit at Apple.
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I'd like to point out the post above yours, showing what a bit of HTML5 and JS can accomplish. Thats just as good as most FPS games in the App Store. You'll just be lacking the gyro and accelerometer.
HTML5 is great, and a huge improvement over Flash, but there is always going to be a gap between what you can do in it and what you can do natively.
What the hell are you rambling on about? Who the hell do you think brought HTML5 to the World? Apple. Dave Hyatt co-wrote the standard brought to the W3C.
According to Wikipedia, "Ian Hickson of Google, Inc., is the editor of HTML5."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML5
According to Wikipedia, "Ian Hickson of Google, Inc., is the editor of HTML5."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML5
Or, maybe you just don't know what that means.
Certainly possible. Do you know what it means? Honest question.
I think he means there's a difference between author and editor.
I think he means there's a difference between author and editor.
Are they mutually exclusive? According to this article, David Hyatt (w/Apple) is also an Editor for HTML5? I just don't find any source that says Apple created HTML5.
[...] Facebook has "pissed off" Apple in the past and suffered repercussions as a result. According to the report, Facebook is scared of Apple and has to "tread lightly." [...]
Way back in the day at Macworld NY in 2000, ATI published a press release stating that their new Radeon graphics cards would be installed in three new Mac models. Two days before Steve Jobs' keynote. Steve was so angry about this that he removed any mention of ATI or Radeon from his keynote. He also ordered all Radeon cards to be replaced with other cards in all Macs on the show floor, and all signage at the Apple both had the words "ATI" and "Radeon" blacked out. It took years for the Apple - ATI relationship to warm up again.
In 2005, Motorola did such a bad job designing, building, and marketing the first "iTunes phone" (the ROKR) that it was a sales dud. Steve said as little as possible about it, saying far more about the new iPod nano that was released at the same time. Moto, you could have evolved ROKR into iPhone if you hadn't pissed Steve off.
It really feels like Facebook pissed Steve off too. They're doing extremely well in an area where Apple is doing very poorly: social networking. Ping just isn't cutting it, Apple and Facebook know it, and Facebook is using that as a bargaining tool.
No big deal for Apple. Safari renders Facebook.com just fine. The real big deal is that Apple can now leverage iOS installed base and Facebook's popularity against Flash. iOS + HTML5 on Facebook will help speed up the inevitable decline and fall of Flash.
... flash can't even do 3D
Flash can indeed "do" 3D:
Molehill
away3d
Are they mutually exclusive? According to this article, David Hyatt (w/Apple) is also an Editor for HTML5? I just don't find any source that says Apple created HTML5.
I don't think Apple exclusively created HTML5. No one is saying that. But he definitely contributed to HTML5 in addition to Google's Ian Hickson. And anyway, no one could've created HTML5, because it's an evolution of previous HTML language versions.
I don't think Apple exclusively created HTML5. No one is saying that. But he definitely contributed to HTML5 in addition to Google's Ian Hickson. And anyway, no one could've created HTML5, because it's an evolution of previous HTML language versions.
Which is why I had questioned MDriftMeyer's statement earlier in the thread, leading Anonymouse to suggest I didn't understand:
"Who the hell do you think brought HTML5 to the World? Apple."
Apple has fingers in many pies and makes many different products.
Facebook is a 1 trick pony that makes money by pushing adverts at you and selling your information to other companies.
Facebook may be worth a lot of money now but then, so was Myspace. Once everyone has joined Facebook and got bored of the few things it offers, it will start to die.
But not before it has helped kill off flash so lets just say that FB is a martyr and took one for the team.
Flash can indeed "do" 3D:
Molehill
away3d
Ironically, I can't get neither of these two things to work on my MBP with Flash player 10.whatever
The video looks nice though, but as far as I can see this is all pre-beta stuff that has been in development for ages (the away3d site says the first version was in 2007) and yet it's still not mainstream. It's all nice and dandy that Adobe can pull off some pretty crazy stuff with Flash, but as long as it's all experimental and in a completely controlled environment, it doesn't mean much to me. Just looking at how much trouble Adobe has supporting more than the Windows runtime and the Android runtime for a few Android phones, I don't expect any of this 3D stuff to work across the board on any device with Flash before the year 2020.
Anyway, I don't see why you would even want to write high-end 3D games in something like Flash or HTML5, even though it's technically possible. It's a waste of processing power.
In a follow-up report, Siegler hinted that Facebook may have held the iPad app back as leverage with Apple.
"Apple has wanted this app since the initial iPad launch just over a year ago," the report read. "At first, Facebook made it sound as if they weren?t going to do one at all. But they have been working on it for months. And there?s no reason it should have taken that long.
These guys are playing with fire. They is gonna get burned. Steve can chew them up and spit them out.
If they think that they can get leverage against Steve by denying him their stupid app, they are just plain mistaken. The iPad has plenty of apps, if they haven't noticed.
Sure - a Facebook app would be nice, but Facebook needs Apple big time, and Steve couldn't give a damn about FaceBook.
Blackmailing behavior like they do should be illegal. It certainly is immoral.
What I get from it is that Apple will not enable full HTML5 to everybody, unless they get a cut just like with the iOS apps. Talking about the full web and open standards. Just like in the beginning that only Apple apps could work on the background of iOS.
Then you need to work on both your reading comprehension and general technical knowledge...
Nowadays there are very few websites which you can't view a videos, Flash is dying and only good for ads and porn and those who refuse to adopt HTML 5 to reach out to the IOS devices. Their refusal to do so is their loss.
Which is why I had questioned MDriftMeyer's statement earlier in the thread, leading Anonymouse to suggest I didn't understand:
"Who the hell do you think brought HTML5 to the World? Apple."
Hyatt wrote the initial spec, brought it to Google's Ian Hickson who both extended it with the rest of the community. Hickson is now the point man editor of the spec after they brought it out for general consumption and after Dave resigned.
Hyatt also created XUL, XBL adn co-created Firefox before leaving to work on WebKit at Apple.
He was the editor of HTML 5 until 2010.
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/...0Apr/0096.html
With HTML 5 the adverts return with vengeance.