I still think that most people who make sweeping assumptions about jailbreakers are speaking about things they know nothing about. My involvement in jailbreaking ios devices goes back to late 2007 when the first jailbreak was released. I DO know a lot of people who have chosen to jailbreak their devices. While some people do it just to pirate apps, many just want tweaks and apps that are not approvable by app store. Why are you so quick to assume it is only because they are cheap?
This is a good point, lets not forget that jailbreaking existed before there ever was an App store, my iPod touch was jailbroken then, and my ipad2/iphone4 are jailbroken now. Until apple adds SBSettings equivalent functionality, jailbroken I shall remain. Jailbreaking is for unlocking functionality not piracy.
or they are traveling to another country and need to unlock their phone (which Apple refuses to do, even when the 2-yr contract is up!) so they don't have to pay AT&T's extortionist rates.
I still think that most people who jailbreak are huge liars. I think that most do it because they're cheap and even spending .99 cents on a great game or app is too much for these cheapskates, so they choose to pirate instead. There might be a few exceptions to this, but I do think that piracy is the main reason that people jailbreak.
Not only that, I already saved myself $100 from Navigon and TomTom together + many other apps. In the long run it cost tons of money.
If you have never jailbroke-your opinion is pretty much worthless. Jailbreaking is not for average users. You need to know a bit more than just how to charge your phone. UNIX helps. There are many compelling reasons to jailbreak beyond piracy (which unfortunately is rapant in foreign markets esp. China & Russia); however piracy is huge and much more comon on PCs.
Bricking by jailbreaking is less common than bricking without ever jailbreaking and is not caused by software it is pretty much a hardware component failure. I jailbreak, have 250+apps (full versions) from Apples AppStore - as well as paid Cydia apps (20+) including productivity enhancements, networking, capabilities, wii-Bluetooth controls, webcam to mac, enhancements to the iPod player, gorgeous icons, weather widget, capabilities to place icons in folders with unlimited apps, shrinkable icons, five icon dock, I could go on forever.
So the point is - you may see no compelling reason but many do. Does it really effect you (a nonjailbreaker) enough to hate on those who do? If so you must have a miserable life with nothing much else to do. Get your facts straight and by all means just don't jailbreak unless you want to extend the capabilities of one of the best devices ever made. Move on, bite that nasty tongue and do something nice today.
I still think that most people who jailbreak are huge liars. I think that most do it because they're cheap and even spending .99 cents on a great game or app is too much for these cheapskates, so they choose to pirate instead. There might be a few exceptions to this, but I do think that piracy is the main reason that people jailbreak.
And you my dear friend are mostly a hating bugger.
I jailbroke because until this year there was not a supported iPhone carrier in the upper midwest. AT&T was not here and Verizon didn't have the iPhone. The only apps I downloaded that were not from the app store were to workaround limitations of an older version of iOS on an older iPhone with an unsupported carrier.
Calling them "hackers" instead of their well-known iPhone Dev Team name, and bringing up the piracy issue, gives the article an anti-jailbreaking slant. Nothing new here.
I still think that most people who make sweeping assumptions about jailbreakers are speaking about things they know nothing about. My involvement in jailbreaking ios devices goes back to late 2007 when the first jailbreak was released. I DO know a lot of people who have chosen to jailbreak their devices. While some people do it just to pirate apps, many just want tweaks and apps that are not approvable by app store. Why are you so quick to assume it is only because they are cheap? I think if you bothered to investigate you would find much evidence to the contrary. Cydia (the 3rd party store) has many apps that cost money. There are developers making money on the cydia store, many I know personally. So to rephrase your premise, people jailbreak because they are too cheap to buy $.99 apps on the app store, but are willing to buy from a 3rd party store that involves more cumbersome payment methods to get apps costing typically from $1-$10. Yeah real solid logic there, Apple ][
And you my dear friend are mostly a hating bugger.
Love,
Your dear friend, a jailbreaker
No need to wet your panties there buddy.
I don't hate jailbreakers. I just think that many of them aren't honest, that's all. I'm not a developer, I have no personal stake in this. I call things like I see them. If you don't like it, then too bad.
Whenever I feel down I just think about these guys who REALLY don't have lives, and feel so much better.
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Indeed. The reaction to this news on most sites I've seen this morning is either a yawn, or a "why would anyone jailbreak anymore?"
If jailbreaking isn't already on the wane, the rise of WebApps next year and the year after will put the last nail in the coffin. It will actually be better because it will go back to being something that a techie does for laughs instead of a mock business run by 17 year old asshats.
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I still think that most people who jailbreak are huge liars. I think that most do it because they're cheap and even spending .99 cents on a great game or app is too much for these cheapskates, so they choose to pirate instead. There might be a few exceptions to this, but I do think that piracy is the main reason that people jailbreak.
Ironically, hackers who exploited the PDF security hole in iOS last year also delivered their own security fix to address the very same issue on jailbroken devices. The patch aimed to ensure that dishonest hackers would not be able to utilize the exploit for malicious purposes.
"We have an honest thief!" - Cal (from movie Titanic)
People who are appalled at jailbreakers are the same people who 3 months ago said that iPhone notifications were fine and that adding any information on the lock screen would make the iPhone into a horrible mess that only geeks (read: closet android fans) would want. People jailbreak because they want the features that jailbreaking provides.
Agreed! I have over 800 paid apps for my iPhone and iPad, and I still JB. Here's why:
- LockInfo
- Infinifolders
- Infinidock
- Activator
- iFile/OpenSSH
- SB Settings
- Winterboard
- Wifi-sync
- 3G Unrestrictor
- Lockdown
My list has shorten significantly over the years as iOS keeps on improving. For example, I no longer use MyWi because iOS 4.2 finally allowed Mi-Fi tethering. Soon as iOS 5 comes out, I can also get rid of LockInfo and Wifi-sync, but I would definitely still JB for the other features.
I guess you are ignoring the over two million iPhone users on T-Mobile in the US. All of us had to jailbreak to unlock the phone. Further, I have apps like VLC for video, which Apple took off the app store.
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I still think that most people who jailbreak are huge liars. I think that most do it because they're cheap and even spending .99 cents on a great game or app is too much for these cheapskates, so they choose to pirate instead. There might be a few exceptions to this, but I do think that piracy is the main reason that people jailbreak.
Fuckheads who make sweeping judgements on subjects they know nothing about are fuckheads.
I suppose people who work on their own cars and prefer to do business with small independent shops are also dishonest. They're obviously stealing if they don't always shop at Walmart.
Thankfully, it looks like Apple sat down before designing iOS 5 and said... "Let's look at all the reasons why people currently Jailbrake their devices and then offer those features in iOS 5."
And for the most part, I think they're well on their way. Obviously there will always be those users and developers that desire features which Apple is just not down with - and for them, Jailbraking will be around for many years to come - but with iOS 5, I've finally run out of reasons to JB my iPhone.
Now if only we could get a half-decent bluetooth stack! (ffs).
I still think that most people who make sweeping assumptions about jailbreakers are speaking about things they know nothing about. My involvement in jailbreaking ios devices goes back to late 2007 when the first jailbreak was released. I DO know a lot of people who have chosen to jailbreak their devices. While some people do it just to pirate apps, many just want tweaks and apps that are not approvable by app store. Why are you so quick to assume it is only because they are cheap? I think if you bothered to investigate you would find much evidence to the contrary. Cydia (the 3rd party store) has many apps that cost money. There are developers making money on the cydia store, many I know personally. So to rephrase your premise, people jailbreak because they are too cheap to buy $.99 apps on the app store, but are willing to buy from a 3rd party store that involves more cumbersome payment methods to get apps costing typically from $1-$10. Yeah real solid logic there, Apple ][
Why buy from Cydia when your jailbroken iphone has access to pirated versions of everything anyway?
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I still think that most people who make sweeping assumptions about jailbreakers are speaking about things they know nothing about. My involvement in jailbreaking ios devices goes back to late 2007 when the first jailbreak was released. I DO know a lot of people who have chosen to jailbreak their devices. While some people do it just to pirate apps, many just want tweaks and apps that are not approvable by app store. Why are you so quick to assume it is only because they are cheap?
This is a good point, lets not forget that jailbreaking existed before there ever was an App store, my iPod touch was jailbroken then, and my ipad2/iphone4 are jailbroken now. Until apple adds SBSettings equivalent functionality, jailbroken I shall remain. Jailbreaking is for unlocking functionality not piracy.
or they are traveling to another country and need to unlock their phone (which Apple refuses to do, even when the 2-yr contract is up!) so they don't have to pay AT&T's extortionist rates.
That's why I do it, with my old 3GS
I still think that most people who jailbreak are huge liars. I think that most do it because they're cheap and even spending .99 cents on a great game or app is too much for these cheapskates, so they choose to pirate instead. There might be a few exceptions to this, but I do think that piracy is the main reason that people jailbreak.
Not only that, I already saved myself $100 from Navigon and TomTom together + many other apps. In the long run it cost tons of money.
Bricking by jailbreaking is less common than bricking without ever jailbreaking and is not caused by software it is pretty much a hardware component failure. I jailbreak, have 250+apps (full versions) from Apples AppStore - as well as paid Cydia apps (20+) including productivity enhancements, networking, capabilities, wii-Bluetooth controls, webcam to mac, enhancements to the iPod player, gorgeous icons, weather widget, capabilities to place icons in folders with unlimited apps, shrinkable icons, five icon dock, I could go on forever.
So the point is - you may see no compelling reason but many do. Does it really effect you (a nonjailbreaker) enough to hate on those who do? If so you must have a miserable life with nothing much else to do. Get your facts straight and by all means just don't jailbreak unless you want to extend the capabilities of one of the best devices ever made. Move on, bite that nasty tongue and do something nice today.
I still think that most people who jailbreak are huge liars. I think that most do it because they're cheap and even spending .99 cents on a great game or app is too much for these cheapskates, so they choose to pirate instead. There might be a few exceptions to this, but I do think that piracy is the main reason that people jailbreak.
And you my dear friend are mostly a hating bugger.
Love,
Your dear friend, a jailbreaker
Calling them "hackers" instead of their well-known iPhone Dev Team name, and bringing up the piracy issue, gives the article an anti-jailbreaking slant. Nothing new here.
I still think that most people who make sweeping assumptions about jailbreakers are speaking about things they know nothing about. My involvement in jailbreaking ios devices goes back to late 2007 when the first jailbreak was released. I DO know a lot of people who have chosen to jailbreak their devices. While some people do it just to pirate apps, many just want tweaks and apps that are not approvable by app store. Why are you so quick to assume it is only because they are cheap? I think if you bothered to investigate you would find much evidence to the contrary. Cydia (the 3rd party store) has many apps that cost money. There are developers making money on the cydia store, many I know personally. So to rephrase your premise, people jailbreak because they are too cheap to buy $.99 apps on the app store, but are willing to buy from a 3rd party store that involves more cumbersome payment methods to get apps costing typically from $1-$10. Yeah real solid logic there, Apple ][
Well said!
And you my dear friend are mostly a hating bugger.
Love,
Your dear friend, a jailbreaker
No need to wet your panties there buddy.
I don't hate jailbreakers. I just think that many of them aren't honest, that's all. I'm not a developer, I have no personal stake in this. I call things like I see them. If you don't like it, then too bad.
Whenever I feel down I just think about these guys who REALLY don't have lives, and feel so much better.
Indeed. The reaction to this news on most sites I've seen this morning is either a yawn, or a "why would anyone jailbreak anymore?"
If jailbreaking isn't already on the wane, the rise of WebApps next year and the year after will put the last nail in the coffin. It will actually be better because it will go back to being something that a techie does for laughs instead of a mock business run by 17 year old asshats.
I still think that most people who jailbreak are huge liars. I think that most do it because they're cheap and even spending .99 cents on a great game or app is too much for these cheapskates, so they choose to pirate instead. There might be a few exceptions to this, but I do think that piracy is the main reason that people jailbreak.
Ironically, hackers who exploited the PDF security hole in iOS last year also delivered their own security fix to address the very same issue on jailbroken devices. The patch aimed to ensure that dishonest hackers would not be able to utilize the exploit for malicious purposes.
"We have an honest thief!" - Cal (from movie Titanic)
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People who are appalled at jailbreakers are the same people who 3 months ago said that iPhone notifications were fine and that adding any information on the lock screen would make the iPhone into a horrible mess that only geeks (read: closet android fans) would want. People jailbreak because they want the features that jailbreaking provides.
Agreed! I have over 800 paid apps for my iPhone and iPad, and I still JB. Here's why:
- LockInfo
- Infinifolders
- Infinidock
- Activator
- iFile/OpenSSH
- SB Settings
- Winterboard
- Wifi-sync
- 3G Unrestrictor
- Lockdown
My list has shorten significantly over the years as iOS keeps on improving. For example, I no longer use MyWi because iOS 4.2 finally allowed Mi-Fi tethering. Soon as iOS 5 comes out, I can also get rid of LockInfo and Wifi-sync, but I would definitely still JB for the other features.
I still think that most people who jailbreak are huge liars. I think that most do it because they're cheap and even spending .99 cents on a great game or app is too much for these cheapskates, so they choose to pirate instead. There might be a few exceptions to this, but I do think that piracy is the main reason that people jailbreak.
I suppose people who work on their own cars and prefer to do business with small independent shops are also dishonest. They're obviously stealing if they don't always shop at Walmart.
And for the most part, I think they're well on their way. Obviously there will always be those users and developers that desire features which Apple is just not down with - and for them, Jailbraking will be around for many years to come - but with iOS 5, I've finally run out of reasons to JB my iPhone.
Now if only we could get a half-decent bluetooth stack! (ffs).
Whenever I feel down I just think about these guys who REALLY don't have lives, and feel so much better.
Whenever I see people who can't appreciate the importance of work that people do FOR OTHERS it just makes me feel better about myself.
I still think that most people who make sweeping assumptions about jailbreakers are speaking about things they know nothing about. My involvement in jailbreaking ios devices goes back to late 2007 when the first jailbreak was released. I DO know a lot of people who have chosen to jailbreak their devices. While some people do it just to pirate apps, many just want tweaks and apps that are not approvable by app store. Why are you so quick to assume it is only because they are cheap? I think if you bothered to investigate you would find much evidence to the contrary. Cydia (the 3rd party store) has many apps that cost money. There are developers making money on the cydia store, many I know personally. So to rephrase your premise, people jailbreak because they are too cheap to buy $.99 apps on the app store, but are willing to buy from a 3rd party store that involves more cumbersome payment methods to get apps costing typically from $1-$10. Yeah real solid logic there, Apple ][
Why buy from Cydia when your jailbroken iphone has access to pirated versions of everything anyway?