iBooks to boost Apple's iTunes into a $13 billion business by 2013

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  • Reply 41 of 62
    pinolopinolo Posts: 91member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jnjnjn View Post


    I cannot buy iBooks in the Netherlands or most other European countries.



    J.



    I couldn't agree more. iTunes has become a bit of a joke. First Movies (which took two years to become available), then TV shows (which are yet not available) and then iBooks (which are not available). Next up, in the list of "super cool features which you will be able to buy in two years" will be newsstand.



    At first I thought the majors were the obstacle. But now I am starting to think "either is everyone an obstacle, or Apple needs to strengthen the European Offices with some people actually able to strike deals".



    "War and Peace", "The Art of War".



    That's pretty much about it.



    And, since Amazon has these deals in place, it is hard to understand why doesn't Apple. Therefore I think some major changes in the european offices might be needed... It is a bad advertisement for Apple, just look at the evaluation the iBooks app has in Europe... All the concept, the effort, for nothing.

    And Europe is not exactly a bad market for Apple... Just look at the prices of Apple's gear over here...
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  • Reply 42 of 62
    cloudgazercloudgazer Posts: 2,161member
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    Originally Posted by lowededwookie View Post


    What the hell are you talking about. iBooks has orientation lock on an iPhone.



    Really? Where? Oh you mean locking the full phone - I was looking for it in the app, since kindle has it in a really obvious place.
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  • Reply 43 of 62
    cloudgazercloudgazer Posts: 2,161member
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    Originally Posted by Lank View Post


    And I have experienced no "sticky pages" except when I have a jam sandwich while reading.



    Try reading something long - say the HP Lovecraft Omnibus at 6000 pages. First iBooks will take 30+seconds or so to fully calculate pagination at your current font, during which time it is unresponsive. During that time page turning is very sluggish. Accidentally reorient? It will do it again.



    Battery life also seems worse reading iBooks compared to Kindle on the iPhone.
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  • Reply 44 of 62
    harbingerharbinger Posts: 570member
    Orientation lock, scrolling, UI, battery life ... all worthy factors. But I agree with some here - the one thing that really makes Kindle superior is the true portability of the eBooks. Buy once - read on every device including the PC or Mac. Does anyone know if there is a limit on the number of devices?
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  • Reply 45 of 62
    cloudgazercloudgazer Posts: 2,161member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Harbinger View Post


    Orientation lock, scrolling, UI, battery life ... all worthy factors. But I agree with some here - the one thing that really makes Kindle superior is the true portability of the eBooks. Buy once - read on every device including the PC or Mac. Does anyone know if there is a limit on the number of devices?



    6 I believe, though it actually depends on the specific content.



    http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/custom...98470&#howmany
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  • Reply 46 of 62
    pxtpxt Posts: 683member
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    Originally Posted by blackbook View Post


    Once Apple adds an iBooks app for mac I'll actually take it seriously and buy books from the iBooks store



    Exactly. Apple are asleep at the wheel when it comes to using information outside their little silos.
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  • Reply 47 of 62
    pxtpxt Posts: 683member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by pinolo View Post


    I couldn't agree more. iTunes has become a bit of a joke. First Movies (which took two years to become available), then TV shows (which are yet not available) and then iBooks (which are not available). Next up, in the list of "super cool features which you will be able to buy in two years" will be newsstand.



    ...



    "War and Peace", "The Art of War".



    ...




    Can you tell it's an American company ?
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  • Reply 48 of 62
    brucepbrucep Posts: 2,823member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jnjnjn View Post


    I cannot buy iBooks in the Netherlands or most other European countries.



    J.



    Sadly apple may have to cut individual agreements with each country .So it may take time . Or maybe apple can cut a single deal with the almighty E U.



    bruce
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  • Reply 49 of 62
    brucepbrucep Posts: 2,823member
    i have an ibook store app for my MBP

    EXCEPT I CAN SEEM TO READ THEM ON MY MBP 15 "



    Weird Huh ??
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  • Reply 50 of 62
    brucepbrucep Posts: 2,823member
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    Originally Posted by solipsism View Post


    Did you read that somewhere?



    Your wit is very good .
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  • Reply 51 of 62
    adonissmuadonissmu Posts: 1,776member
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    Originally Posted by lowededwookie View Post


    Actually research shows that to understand sarcasm you have to be very intelligent so that really makes your comment false... but then I guess you'd know that if you were smart.



    Actually you just have to understand that person's sense of humor....otherwise you are just guessing and the person may not be sarcastic at all.
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  • Reply 52 of 62
    cloudgazercloudgazer Posts: 2,161member
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    Originally Posted by brucep View Post


    Sadly apple may have to cut individual agreements with each country .So it may take time . Or maybe apple can cut a single deal with the almighty E U.



    bruce



    Nope, because there isn't an EU wide book industry - for the obvious reason that most countries have their own language. Sometimes a publisher will have worldwide rights for a book, but generally not.



    Consider a recent fantasy novel 'The name of the wind' by Patrick Rothfuss.



    US rights - DAW

    UK rights - Gollancz

    French rights - Bragelonne

    German rights - Klett-Cotta

    Italian rights - Fanucci



    Amazon frequently sells books outside their intended markets which publishers don't like, but Amazon is the primary distribution method for books so publishers don't have much choice but to live with it. Apple is still having to win publishers love with chocolate and kisses.
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  • Reply 53 of 62
    palegolaspalegolas Posts: 1,362member
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    Originally Posted by iDunno View Post


    Huh? Where are you located? Here in Australia we have all the major publishers in the iBookstore. Sadly not all of the publishers books are there though, like I couldn't find 'The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo' but other popular stuff like the Twilight novels are all in there.



    Same as the iTunes movie store.



    Oh that's good to hear. Perhaps English speaking nations come first, Apple being American after all it's probably easier to make things happen if you share the same language. Then maybe French and German, two big zones. And then maybe the rest of the world... Like Norway and Sweden where I'm located.
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  • Reply 54 of 62
    palegolaspalegolas Posts: 1,362member
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    Originally Posted by cloudgazer View Post


    6 I believe, though it actually depends on the specific content.



    http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/custom...98470&#howmany



    True.. And for all of you who haven't experienced e-paper like the kindle first hand. It almost feels like regular paper. Readability in bright surroundings is near to perfect. If you plan to read a lot in daylight, e-paper beats LCD every time.
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  • Reply 55 of 62
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,694member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Harbinger View Post


    Orientation lock, scrolling, UI, battery life ... all worthy factors. But I agree with some here - the one thing that really makes Kindle superior is the true portability of the eBooks. Buy once - read on every device including the PC or Mac. Does anyone know if there is a limit on the number of devices?



    I find buying books on the iPad to be better, because I can also sync between all my devices, AND I can buy from EVERY seller, not just one.
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  • Reply 56 of 62
    gwydiongwydion Posts: 1,100member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by melgross View Post


    I find buying books on the iPad to be better, because I can also sync between all my devices, AND I can buy from EVERY seller, not just one.



    You can buy EVERY seller you want with the Kindle if they don't have DRM, exactly like iBooks books, if the epub has standard DRM like Adobe DRM you can't read on iBooks
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  • Reply 57 of 62
    cloudgazercloudgazer Posts: 2,161member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by palegolas View Post


    True.. And for all of you who haven't experienced e-paper like the kindle first hand. It almost feels like regular paper. Readability in bright surroundings is near to perfect. If you plan to read a lot in daylight, e-paper beats LCD every time.



    True, but it's worse for any other use, too slow, requires an external light etc. I can see myself using a kindle on a tropical beach, but pretty much anywhere else I'll take the iPad thanks.
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  • Reply 58 of 62
    brucepbrucep Posts: 2,823member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by cloudgazer View Post


    Nope, because there isn't an EU wide book industry - for the obvious reason that most countries have their own language. Sometimes a publisher will have worldwide rights for a book, but generally not.



    Consider a recent fantasy novel 'The name of the wind' by Patrick Rothfuss.



    US rights - DAW

    UK rights - Gollancz

    French rights - Bragelonne

    German rights - Klett-Cotta

    Italian rights - Fanucci



    Amazon frequently sells books outside their intended markets which publishers don't like, but Amazon is the primary distribution method for books so publishers don't have much choice but to live with it. Apple is still having to win publishers love with chocolate and kisses.





    thank you





    brucep



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  • Reply 59 of 62
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,694member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gwydion View Post


    You can buy EVERY seller you want with the Kindle if they don't have DRM, exactly like iBooks books, if the epub has standard DRM like Adobe DRM you can't read on iBooks



    And that means that you can't buy the books you likely want from any other seller.
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  • Reply 60 of 62
    gwydiongwydion Posts: 1,100member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by melgross View Post


    And that means that you can't buy the books you likely want from any other seller.



    Exactly the same with iBooks. Can you buy books for iBooks from Sony Store?



    You can buy books from other sellers if the books don't have DRM.
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