WTC...Well call me not surprised...
And the winner is...
See links below...jeez, even the media couldn't figure out which outrageous one of these two were...
Sad. That is pure garbage. I did like the Peterson/Littenberg design. I guess that's too normal looking (calling their proposal an urban plan, not architecture). Not like the shopping mall/greenhouse shit they decided on here.
Look, call me old fashioned but we should have rebuilt the World Trade Towers. Including of course a memorial. But I'm also all for a new vision. IMHO...none, except the one I mentioned worked for me...they were a smaller architectural firm and I hoped they'd get the nod. Oh well, lets hear it for big bucks and bad taste...
<a href="http://www.glasssteelandstone.com/US/NY/WTC2-2Peterson.html" target="_blank">Here's the Peterson/Littenberg designs...</a>
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See links below...jeez, even the media couldn't figure out which outrageous one of these two were...
Sad. That is pure garbage. I did like the Peterson/Littenberg design. I guess that's too normal looking (calling their proposal an urban plan, not architecture). Not like the shopping mall/greenhouse shit they decided on here.
Look, call me old fashioned but we should have rebuilt the World Trade Towers. Including of course a memorial. But I'm also all for a new vision. IMHO...none, except the one I mentioned worked for me...they were a smaller architectural firm and I hoped they'd get the nod. Oh well, lets hear it for big bucks and bad taste...
<a href="http://www.glasssteelandstone.com/US/NY/WTC2-2Peterson.html" target="_blank">Here's the Peterson/Littenberg designs...</a>
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Comments
How concrete is this decision?
They also did the jewish museum in Berlin. One giant multi level monument that acts as a museum. Quite amazing and probably the best thought out building I have ever set my foot in.
Why is it that I have to disagree with the Rat on every issue here? Is he anti-me or something?
Groverat: Apples or oranges? Cats or dogs? Pepsi or Coke? Red or blue? Just checking.
they say that they picked this one:
The title for that Yahoo story is really misleading. It was about a recommendation by the Lower Manhattan Development Corporation.
(It took me a little while to find that link.)
I thought Libeskind was a lot of hot air until I heard him speak about some of his projects a few years ago. I think people will (generally) be very pleased if the final build-out is anything like this concept.
I personally liked the Th!nk teams towers.
What I'd most like to have seen: Something close to an exact replica of the original two towers on the outside, improved structurally on the inside, and symbolically a single story taller.
As a second choice, anything that was truly functional architecture, rather than some hollow shell that says we're going to wallow in our losses. Sure, there'd be practical concerns about finding tenants who weren't afraid to live or work there, but it's not like this empty framework is going to generate a whole lot of revenue either, so why not build for a future when more people will be ready to move in? Hell, I'd live on the top floor if someone gave me the chance.
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It's not defeatism to build something that is partly a memorial, and partly a much more appropriate space for that part of the city. I'll give the nod to the Think team for a far more visually interesting piece, but it inherits — and magnifies — the original towers' problem of being too damn big. Libeskind's spire reasserts the "world's tallest" claim in a more aesthetic and less (visually) oppressive way.
I think they chose well. The Libeskind design looks good to me. It's not going to be 8th wonder of the world, but it's a good combination of looking forward and remembering what was lost.
As for structural integrity, I'm not sure what skyscraper that tall could be expected to survive a direct hit with a commercial jet full of fuel, even if the architect was not on a crusade to eliminate the interior wall.
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I guess Wotan and Giant beat me to it.
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The Libeskind looks like an office park chopped up at various angles with a meaningless spire in the mix.
The THINK design doesn't do it for me either. It's hollow. It sorta doesn't not really kinda wants to resemble the original WTC. I would much rather have the original WTC look restored or something completely different.
Out of all the designs I've seen considered, the Peterson-Littenberg plan was my favorite, but if I were to choose one of the two finalists, I would have probably preferred the THINK design. It was a much more daring idea.
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