[quote]Other witnesses, however, reported that Corrie had scaled a pile of dirt but then lost her footing and fell backward behind it, out of sight of the bulldozer operator. The bulldozer continued moving forward, covering Corrie with dirt and then crushing her. <hr></blockquote>
Reminds me of those people who sat on the tracks in front of a moving train. Guy lost a leg and I think he sued over it. What a world we live in.
[quote]Meanwhile, the local news here spent a solid 3 minutes showing her mourners, talking about what a wonderful girl she was without bothering to mention why, exactly, those evil Jews were bulldozing houses in Gaza. And they reported that the bulldozer "backup up and ran over her two or three time", an account not supported by any mainstream news source. Even the NY Times suggests it was a terrible accident; she was trapped when she tried too late to move, with the driver unable to see her that close to the blade and assuming she'd be smart enough to get out of the way.<hr></blockquote>
The Israelis are bulldozing Palestinian homes, villages and farms, regardless as to whether the inhabitants are militants or not. The IDF doesnt make the distinction: Sharon's aim is to break and annihilate the Palestinian people, in the same way that Hamas/Hezbollah etc want to eliminate the Jews. A Palestinian State? This will *never* happen. Those people are doomed.
Hey, this has gone on far to long without my graceful presence.
Can't wait to see these so called human shields high tail it outta there with the news that the yankees are coming. Of course, any that do hang around are more likely to be killed by Saddam's "American" troops. Wouldn't it be funny if Saddam now won't let go, a la Serbian methodology?
<strong>And they reported that the bulldozer "backup up and ran over her two or three time", an account not supported by any mainstream news source</strong><hr></blockquote>
Actually, the very first report I read said she was in a brightly colored coat and was run over, and then backed over again.
I think this one is closet to the truth. </strong><hr></blockquote>
Since you're relying on CNN, does that mean the rest of us can too? Or whenever a CNN article doesn't support your case, will it be the left-wing media again?
Edit: that account, also, comes from a single eyewitness who is a member of the ISM, which, obviously, has an interest in making Israel appear as evil as possible. Get max value from her death, right? It should be noted that the other accounts come from a variety of Palestinian witnesses, who you might think would be at least as unsympathetic to the Israelis.
We're not looking at a few months, bunge, because France rejects ANY deadline. Any ultimatum at all will apparently be vetoed. Where do you get this "only a few months" idea?
Well well lookie here. Turns out this "peace activist" was a hate monger.
Rachel Corrie, 23, from Olympia, Wash., a member of the 'International Solidarity Movement,' burns a mock U.S. flag during a rally in the southern Gaza Strip (news - web sites) town of Rafah in this Feb. 15, 2003 file photo. Corrie was run over and crushed to death by an Israeli army bulldozer Sunday, March 16, 2003, while she was trying to stop it from tearing down a building in the Rafah refugee camp, witnesses said. (AP Photo/Khalil Hamra)
Talk about "root causes". When one of our own citizens teaches this kind of hate to young children you have to wonder what she's working for? Peace or terror?
The link wasn't posted because it's a good argument against war. It's posted because it proves that Blix stated that inspections would only require months. That's the info you 'were looking for', in quotes because you don't really want to see it.
So, Blix says months. According to you a credible threat could be sustained for a few months. The war is not necessary by your own logic.
Are you ready to reverse your decision? Or will you continue to ridicule and avoid instead?
Blix says the inspectors require months given full cooperation and disclosure by Saddam. He never got that. Read the "cluster" document. Read his reports to the security council. If you can find an instance of Blix saying he can disarm Iraq fully within months withou Saddam's full cooperation I'll gladly concede.
Well well lookie here. Turns out this "peace activist" was a hate monger....Talk about "root causes". When one of our own citizens teaches this kind of hate to young children you have to wonder what she's working for? Peace or terror?
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From <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/03/16/rafah.death/index.html"; target="_blank">CNN</a>
[quote]Other witnesses, however, reported that Corrie had scaled a pile of dirt but then lost her footing and fell backward behind it, out of sight of the bulldozer operator. The bulldozer continued moving forward, covering Corrie with dirt and then crushing her. <hr></blockquote>
Reminds me of those people who sat on the tracks in front of a moving train. Guy lost a leg and I think he sued over it. What a world we live in.
The Israelis are bulldozing Palestinian homes, villages and farms, regardless as to whether the inhabitants are militants or not. The IDF doesnt make the distinction: Sharon's aim is to break and annihilate the Palestinian people, in the same way that Hamas/Hezbollah etc want to eliminate the Jews. A Palestinian State? This will *never* happen. Those people are doomed.
Can't wait to see these so called human shields high tail it outta there with the news that the yankees are coming. Of course, any that do hang around are more likely to be killed by Saddam's "American" troops. Wouldn't it be funny if Saddam now won't let go, a la Serbian methodology?
Anxiously awaits first news reports.
Poor sod, too paranoid/crazy to exploit/spot a political advantage when it lands right in his lap. Meh, his days are numbered anyway.
<strong>And they reported that the bulldozer "backup up and ran over her two or three time", an account not supported by any mainstream news source</strong><hr></blockquote>
Actually, the very first report I read said she was in a brightly colored coat and was run over, and then backed over again.
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I think this one is closet to the truth. </strong><hr></blockquote>
Since you're relying on CNN, does that mean the rest of us can too? Or whenever a CNN article doesn't support your case, will it be the left-wing media again?
Just trying to clarify for the future.
Edit: that account, also, comes from a single eyewitness who is a member of the ISM, which, obviously, has an interest in making Israel appear as evil as possible. Get max value from her death, right? It should be noted that the other accounts come from a variety of Palestinian witnesses, who you might think would be at least as unsympathetic to the Israelis.
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We're not looking at a few months, bunge, because France rejects ANY deadline. Any ultimatum at all will apparently be vetoed. Where do you get this "only a few months" idea?
Here .
"Only a couple of weeks ago, Hans Blix told the Security Council that the key remaining disarmament tasks could be completed within months.
I have heard it said that Iraq has had not months but 12 years in which to complete disarmament, and that our patience is exhausted.
Yet it is more than 30 years since resolution 242 called on Israel to withdraw from the occupied territories.
We do not express the same impatience with the persistent refusal of Israel to comply."
That is one of the more laughable anti-war arguments I've read.
Originally posted by groverat
I love arguments that whine about off-subject issues!
That is one of the more laughable anti-war arguments I've read.
That's because you didn't follow the link and read the argument.
Don't let other people argue for you, bunge.
Rachel Corrie, 23, from Olympia, Wash., a member of the 'International Solidarity Movement,' burns a mock U.S. flag during a rally in the southern Gaza Strip (news - web sites) town of Rafah in this Feb. 15, 2003 file photo. Corrie was run over and crushed to death by an Israeli army bulldozer Sunday, March 16, 2003, while she was trying to stop it from tearing down a building in the Rafah refugee camp, witnesses said. (AP Photo/Khalil Hamra)
Talk about "root causes". When one of our own citizens teaches this kind of hate to young children you have to wonder what she's working for? Peace or terror?
Originally posted by groverat
Don't let other people argue for you, bunge.
The link wasn't posted because it's a good argument against war. It's posted because it proves that Blix stated that inspections would only require months. That's the info you 'were looking for', in quotes because you don't really want to see it.
So, Blix says months. According to you a credible threat could be sustained for a few months. The war is not necessary by your own logic.
Are you ready to reverse your decision? Or will you continue to ridicule and avoid instead?
Scott:
Teaching hate is only bad if you're white.
Originally posted by Scott
Well well lookie here. Turns out this "peace activist" was a hate monger....Talk about "root causes". When one of our own citizens teaches this kind of hate to young children you have to wonder what she's working for? Peace or terror?
Originally posted by bunge
Don't you care about "root causes"?