He knows where Osama is...

scott · March 1, 2003 11:52PM

... should we read him his rights and pay for his lawyer?

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<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/02/international/asia/02STAN.html"; target="_blank">Pakistanis Arrest Qaeda Figure Seen as Planner of 9/11</a>

[quote]ILAMABAD, Pakistan, March 1 ? Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, suspected of planning the Sept. 11 attacks on New York and Washington and one of the F.B.I.'s most wanted terrorists, was detained by Pakistani authorities this morning and is now in American custody, officials said.

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Oh and for all the FBI-CIA haters out there this is a big one. War on terror going forward and all that.

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ghost_user_name · March 2, 2003 12:57AM

[quote]Originally posted by Scott:

... should we read him his rights and pay for his lawyer?<hr></blockquote>

Unless you have forgotten what you defend in this war against terrorism then yes.

The stated purpose of RAF was to stir things up so much that Germany would take opressive measures into use and that way show "the real face" of capitalism. Looks like they the terrorists have taken that approach too and is much more succesful than RAF ever was back then.

zarathustra · March 2, 2003 4:14AM

[quote] Oh and for all the FBI-CIA haters out there this is a big one. War on terror going forward and all that<hr></blockquote>

They got the right guy this time right?

roduk · March 2, 2003 4:48AM

I expect he knows where Osama was, though if Osama has any sense at all, he will have moved on hearing of the arrest. I was under the impression the terrorist group, or rather the group of people they belong to, were largely nomadic anyway.

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powerdoc · March 2, 2003 5:34AM

This is a great new.

Yes you should read his rights and pay a lawyer . At the contrary of these people you live in a democratia that guaranteed your individual freedoom.

Anyway a good trial, give the opportunity to learn many things on these kind of people : i don't think it's a waste of money.

harald · March 2, 2003 7:33AM

[quote]Originally posted by Scott:

... should we read him his rights and pay for his lawyer?

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Rights? Of course not! We should torture him until we get the info! He has no rights! Lawyer? What on earth does he need one of those for?

A good spot of dehumanising is what's called for! It's the Western way!

(You wish)

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guartho · March 2, 2003 8:41AM

[quote]Originally posted by Scott:

... should we read him his rights and pay for his lawyer?

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He is not a US citizen and therefore not protected by the Constitution. However since this is a "war" on terrorism I imagine he's protected by the Geneva Convention (does that still apply!?) or some more modern equivalent.

ghost_user_name · March 2, 2003 8:57AM

[quote]Originally posted by Guartho:



He is not a US citizen and therefore not protected by the Constitution. However since this is a "war" on terrorism I imagine he's protected by the Geneva Convention (does that still apply!?) or some more modern equivalent.<hr></blockquote>

No. Not since someone came up with the catch-all term "illegal competant" that magically grants you the right to detain whoever you want for an indefinite time.

scott · March 2, 2003 9:28AM

[quote]Originally posted by Anders the White:



No. Not since someone came up with the catch-all term "illegal competant" that magically grants you the right to detain whoever you want for an indefinite time.<hr></blockquote>

You mean illegal combatant. The term came out of the fact that US does follow the Geneva Convention and the terrorists do not. You should read it some time

Under the convention we do not put him in the legal system and treat him like a common criminal. Thank god the fallacy of treating terrorism like a "crime" is over.

buonrotto · March 2, 2003 9:29AM

I'm not aware of any auch term. Do you mean "enemy combatant?"

Don't worry about this guy's health. The CIA has pampaered the other few major Al Qaeda personnel they've captured. They tend to talk more freely when you do this, though it does take more time.

People in here just want to believe that the US can do no right.

jrc · March 2, 2003 9:33AM

I hope they first cut off his arms and legs with no anesthetic and THEN start to interrogate him.

Later, if he resists, burn his eyes out.

Do this all in a public view inside a glass encased room at ground zero.

buonrotto · March 2, 2003 11:05AM

I'd rather not "martyr" him (or give anyone an excuse to consider him one), but let him betray his cause and waste his life away alone and ignored in the belly of the Great Satan somewhere. I think it would be greater torture for him, and serve some real justice.

powerdoc · March 2, 2003 11:10AM

[quote]Originally posted by JRC:

I hope they first cut off his arms and legs with no anesthetic and THEN start to interrogate him.

Later, if he resists, burn his eyes out.

Do this all in a public view inside a glass encased room at ground zero.<hr></blockquote>

All the extremism of the world would be happy to see that. However this would never happen otherwhere than your (dirty) dreams.

samantha joanne ollendale · March 2, 2003 1:48PM

But might he already be dead?

<a href="http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/DJ30Df01.html"; target="_blank">http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/DJ30Df01.html</a>;

tulkas · March 2, 2003 2:00PM

[quote]Originally posted by Samantha Joanne Ollendale:

But might he already be dead?

<a href="http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/DJ30Df01.html"; target="_blank">http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/DJ30Df01.html</a><hr></blockquote>;

Probably not. That article quotes no sources, only speculation. It seems to try and paint him as a martyr who was unjustly murdered, as he had is hands up and was surrendering. He even, very nobly, had time after he was shot, to scroll in his own blood, "There is no God except Allah, Mohammed is his messenger". The whole article rings of bullshit.

buonrotto · March 2, 2003 2:27PM

[quote]Originally posted by Tulkas:

"There is no God except Allah, Mohammed is his messenger"<hr></blockquote>

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"There is no God except... Aaauuuugghhhhh...."[/eric_idle]

Samantha, we have to work on your sources. They're simply ludicrous.

artman @_@ · March 2, 2003 6:01PM

If he is what I've heard him to be (a "practicing" muslim...meaning he does like the infidel life) he could sing like a bird. But if he is a loyal Al Quada member, he could just die for his cause.

I think he'll sing. Mainly because of the fact that Pakistan uses some unorthodox methods to get information. I just saw on the news that he has been moved to an undisclosed location now...

One question. Why in the hell do we think that Pakistan is an ally? They seem to harbor these assholes...confusing.

brussell · March 2, 2003 6:07PM

Looks like he's been having a bad day.

Before:

After:

Looking at the hair on that guy, maybe they should use some of that duct tape to make him talk.

colanderofdeath · March 2, 2003 6:11PM

He's a member of al queda, and a porn star too!

buonrotto · March 2, 2003 6:16PM

Separated at birth?

immanuel goldstein · March 2, 2003 10:23PM

On a lighter note, I am glad that more and more international TV news, reporters (those foreign to the area, that is) have an imporved pronounciation of ?al Qa'eda?. They already got much of sound of the Qaf (&#1602 ) , although I guess they'd only get around to pronounce it with the so-tasty Iraqi Qaf (as in ?Qubbeh?) when the war begins.

Still, I'm not holding my breath for them to achieve the sound of the 'Ayin (&#1593 ) .

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