Pretty smart move by AT&T actually. When they went to capped data plan, people were upset, but do you realize how many people have not changed to Verizon simply because they would lose uncapped data? Same deal here. AT&T can make themselves look better to current customers who may be shopping around by doing this. You know Verizon will match this offer. It is cheaper to retain a customer than to get a new one. I know my very cheap and unlimited data has kept me from being tempted to switch to Verizon.
Now if Verizon wanted, they could make an offer to honor current unlimited data contracts from AT&T at the AT&T rate, and would probably get a lot of people switching over to them.
Rumor is that's exactly what Verizon will be doing if you tell them you're on ATT unlimited...
ALL the people i care about or want to text use an Apple device...so i wouldn't care wether imessage is not device agnostic. Heh heh heh.
ATT is totally ripping off people. I hope their attempt to aquire Sprint the only other GSM provider FAILS.
I am with the poster who said they hope Apple comes out with their own network. AppleNet baby! Lol.
But barring that, imessage, facetime and skype will be fine for me. $20 for unlimted texting? Ha! And how much you wanna bet that within a year ATT caps this "unlimited" texting just like they did with their so called "unlimited" data plan which they did away with.
ATT is totally ripping off people. I hope their attempt to aquire Sprint the only other GSM provider FAILS.
Sprint is CDMA, not GSM
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I am with the poster who said they hope Apple comes out with their own network. AppleNet baby! Lol.
You might as well suggest that Google create their own carrier network. If you think AT&T is struggling to maintain a nationwide network, Wait until Apple tried to get into the game. Hint. It's not something just anybody can do or wants to do.
When i buy a new iphone 5, i am going to buy it factory unlocked. I travel alot, and this locked into an ATT contract BS is getting to be too much. They think they have captive prisoners....but they don't. This texting thing is just the latest abuse.
I heard Apple is working on a true world wide phone. I hope its the iphone 5
You might as well suggest that Google create their own carrier network. If you think AT&T is struggling to maintain a nationwide network, Wait until Apple tried to get into the game. Hint. It's not something just anybody can do or wants to do.
Oops. I meant T Mobile. Lol.
Last i heard, Apple has more cash than the United States of America. If ANYONE can create their own network....Apple can. Heck....Apple can buy Sprint or T Mobile and stick it to Att And Verizon. Bwa ha ha!
Not holding my breathe on this....but i am with those who have had enough of ATT. Fo shizzle!
Whatever...the difference is $10. You can't even buy lunch in California for $10. People whining over a few bucks shouldn't even have an iPhone.
This is such. BS argument. I dont care how much you make, $20 extra a month for texting is just ridiculous. Its a service that should be included in your data plan. Its price gouging plain and simple.
For the average american, forcing them to pay up $20 for unlimited texting is just wrong.
With iOS 5 people will have alternatives.
Apple already offers factory unlocked phones, and there are strong rumors that they will be coming out with a true universal world phone that uhas both GSM and CDMA chips. I dont kow if it'll be the iphone 5....maybe the iphone 6.....but it's coming. People will have more choices. ATT's death grip on iphone users is already slipping. They are losing their exclusivity and are trying to milk people before they lose it entirely.
I have always had unlimited and since most users text more than they talk I do not see the big deal especially since $20 is a great price.
I am sorry, but when a texting plan almost gets as expensive as a data plan.....SOMETHING is seriously wrong. Come on. $20 for texting? 1,000 texts for $10 was fair. ($5 would be more reasonable actually) Getting rid of this option and FORCING people to pay up twice as much to text the same amount is just complete and utter BS.
And how long before they cap this "unlimited" plan? Huh? Lol. They did it with Data. You can bet that within a year, they will cap texting as well. And then charge anyone who goes over the .20 cents per text rate.
God i hope this doesnt go thru. T-mobiles $49.99 unlimited plan will be history if it does....along with the only other GSM competition ATT had. They will use it to inflict even more aggregious price hikes upon us.
Maybe Apple can step in and buy T mobile. They have more money than God.
Probably wont happen....but at least the government should stop this ATT takeover of T mobile. Thats just not gonna be good for anybody....except ATT that is.
If you don't text criminal or particularly dirty messages you've got nothing to worry about regardless.
Such a weak argument. The bottom line is information can be abused no matter it's criminality. Would you want anyone outside of your family to know about your divorce or financial troubles or health problems? Employers have been known to wrongfully dismiss individuals based on such issues and though the plaintiff often wins in such cases, the damage has been done and you can't get back your time spent in litigation.
Sometimes things are just private and personally I wouldn't want to be spammed with advertisements for divorce lawyers because Google had access to that info. You really should read up more about how companies like Google and Facebook already have abused the privilege of information at their disposal and how the problem could become much larger if we don't start regulating and monitoring their actions. It's time for the "veil" of trade secrets protecting these guys to be removed.
Such a weak argument. The bottom line is information can be abused no matter it's criminality. Would you want anyone outside of your family to know about your divorce or financial troubles or health problems? Employers have been known to wrongfully dismiss individuals based on such issues and though the plaintiff often wins in such cases, the damage has been done and you can't get back your time spent in litigation.
Sometimes things are just private and personally I wouldn't want to be spammed with advertisements for divorce lawyers because Google had access to that info. You really should read up more about how companies like Google and Facebook already have abused the privilege of information at their disposal and how the problem could become much larger if we don't start regulating and monitoring their actions. It's time for the "veil" of trade secrets protecting these guys to be removed.
No one is forced to post private information on social media sites, nor are they forced to text the info. If you do that, you do so at your own risk. This isn't really difficult, and ranks right up there with keeping your mouth shut when it's in your best interest.
No one is forced to post private information on social media sites, nor are they forced to text the info. If you do that, you do so at your own risk. This isn't really difficult, and ranks right up there with keeping your mouth shut when it's in your best interest.
I suppose making phone calls or leaving voice messages or sending emails are "at my own risk" as well? So I should just invest in and invent a "Get Smart" isolation tube for all of my communications then? Don't be naive. There are reasons why warrants are normally required for such information to be obtained and these days we are encroaching upon an era where those rights could vanish. Me sending a text to my lawyer or my doctor should be no less private than me making a phone call.
I suppose making phone calls or leaving voice messages or sending emails are "at my own risk" as well? So I should just invest in and invent a "get Smart" isolation tube for all of my communications then? Don't be naive.
If you're stupid enough to leave personal info in a voice message, or to put it in an email/text, then maybe you live on a planet where this behavior hasn't come back to bite folks in their posterior on a regular basis. Most of us here, and that pay attention to the news, have seen this in action over a period of several years. Where have you been?
We had three people on our a count ( and will until 8/29/11) so the family plan unlimited was a fine choice. BUT this is not a good choice for two people! Our prices would go from $10 each to $15 each since we don't use more than 1000 texts each per month.
So I changed all three phones to the 1000 text plan this morning after reading about this blatant money grab. Once iMessage comes I will drop me texts completely and use iMessage and Google Voice. I wish my wife would use Google Voice texting so we could completely drop AT&T texting.
I am really surprised that AT&T didn't do what T-mobile does and simply roll it into all the minutes plans. That way nobody could drop their texting costs and it wouldn't have bee as blatant as ( for all pratical purposes) doubling their texting costs.
If you're stupid enough to leave personal info in a voice message, or to put it in an email/text, then maybe you live on a planet where this behavior hasn't come back to bite folks in their posterior on a regular basis. Most of us here, and that pay attention to the news, have seen this in action over a period of several years. Where have you been?
You just proved my point. In the past it was inadmissible. Today that situation has changed even though the laws have not been clearly voted upon. Corporations like Google should not have the right to access this info. I can't believe you are not listening to yourself. Your only argument is... "well thats the way it is get used to it." Good job.
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Pretty smart move by AT&T actually. When they went to capped data plan, people were upset, but do you realize how many people have not changed to Verizon simply because they would lose uncapped data? Same deal here. AT&T can make themselves look better to current customers who may be shopping around by doing this. You know Verizon will match this offer. It is cheaper to retain a customer than to get a new one. I know my very cheap and unlimited data has kept me from being tempted to switch to Verizon.
Now if Verizon wanted, they could make an offer to honor current unlimited data contracts from AT&T at the AT&T rate, and would probably get a lot of people switching over to them.
Rumor is that's exactly what Verizon will be doing if you tell them you're on ATT unlimited...
They are just begging people to try alternative texting apps.
ATT is totally ripping off people. I hope their attempt to aquire Sprint the only other GSM provider FAILS.
I am with the poster who said they hope Apple comes out with their own network. AppleNet baby! Lol.
But barring that, imessage, facetime and skype will be fine for me. $20 for unlimted texting? Ha! And how much you wanna bet that within a year ATT caps this "unlimited" texting just like they did with their so called "unlimited" data plan which they did away with.
This is price gouging plain and simple.
I cannot wait until iOS 5 comes out.
ATT is totally ripping off people. I hope their attempt to aquire Sprint the only other GSM provider FAILS.
Sprint is CDMA, not GSM
I am with the poster who said they hope Apple comes out with their own network. AppleNet baby! Lol.
You might as well suggest that Google create their own carrier network. If you think AT&T is struggling to maintain a nationwide network, Wait until Apple tried to get into the game. Hint. It's not something just anybody can do or wants to do.
I heard Apple is working on a true world wide phone. I hope its the iphone 5
Sprint is CDMA, not GSM
You might as well suggest that Google create their own carrier network. If you think AT&T is struggling to maintain a nationwide network, Wait until Apple tried to get into the game. Hint. It's not something just anybody can do or wants to do.
Oops. I meant T Mobile. Lol.
Last i heard, Apple has more cash than the United States of America. If ANYONE can create their own network....Apple can. Heck....Apple can buy Sprint or T Mobile and stick it to Att And Verizon. Bwa ha ha!
Not holding my breathe on this....but i am with those who have had enough of ATT. Fo shizzle!
And let Google have a copy of every text you've ever sent or received?
Google does not even know the meaning of the world privacy they already read our email should we let them read the texts too??...no way!!
Whatever...the difference is $10. You can't even buy lunch in California for $10. People whining over a few bucks shouldn't even have an iPhone.
This is such. BS argument. I dont care how much you make, $20 extra a month for texting is just ridiculous. Its a service that should be included in your data plan. Its price gouging plain and simple.
For the average american, forcing them to pay up $20 for unlimited texting is just wrong.
With iOS 5 people will have alternatives.
Apple already offers factory unlocked phones, and there are strong rumors that they will be coming out with a true universal world phone that uhas both GSM and CDMA chips. I dont kow if it'll be the iphone 5....maybe the iphone 6.....but it's coming. People will have more choices. ATT's death grip on iphone users is already slipping. They are losing their exclusivity and are trying to milk people before they lose it entirely.
I have always had unlimited and since most users text more than they talk I do not see the big deal especially since $20 is a great price.
I am sorry, but when a texting plan almost gets as expensive as a data plan.....SOMETHING is seriously wrong. Come on. $20 for texting? 1,000 texts for $10 was fair. ($5 would be more reasonable actually) Getting rid of this option and FORCING people to pay up twice as much to text the same amount is just complete and utter BS.
And how long before they cap this "unlimited" plan? Huh? Lol. They did it with Data. You can bet that within a year, they will cap texting as well. And then charge anyone who goes over the .20 cents per text rate.
Well said. This is just a trailer of what will the landscape be when AT&T and T-Mobile actually merge.
Regulators, please take note.
provide feedback on the at&t/t-mobile merger (or acquisition or whatever it truly is).
tell the fcc: 10-65
or save a click and use the direct link
provide feedback on the at&t/t-mobile merger (or acquisition or whatever it truly is).
tell the fcc: 10-65
or save a click and use the direct link
God i hope this doesnt go thru. T-mobiles $49.99 unlimited plan will be history if it does....along with the only other GSM competition ATT had. They will use it to inflict even more aggregious price hikes upon us.
Maybe Apple can step in and buy T mobile. They have more money than God.
Probably wont happen....but at least the government should stop this ATT takeover of T mobile. Thats just not gonna be good for anybody....except ATT that is.
I'd think they're probably already on it. Why pay the extra if you don't use it?
Perzactly! I never text, and my wife seldom texts, maybe 7-8 texts a month. It's all in what you think you can't live without.
If you don't text criminal or particularly dirty messages you've got nothing to worry about regardless.
Such a weak argument. The bottom line is information can be abused no matter it's criminality. Would you want anyone outside of your family to know about your divorce or financial troubles or health problems? Employers have been known to wrongfully dismiss individuals based on such issues and though the plaintiff often wins in such cases, the damage has been done and you can't get back your time spent in litigation.
Sometimes things are just private and personally I wouldn't want to be spammed with advertisements for divorce lawyers because Google had access to that info. You really should read up more about how companies like Google and Facebook already have abused the privilege of information at their disposal and how the problem could become much larger if we don't start regulating and monitoring their actions. It's time for the "veil" of trade secrets protecting these guys to be removed.
Such a weak argument. The bottom line is information can be abused no matter it's criminality. Would you want anyone outside of your family to know about your divorce or financial troubles or health problems? Employers have been known to wrongfully dismiss individuals based on such issues and though the plaintiff often wins in such cases, the damage has been done and you can't get back your time spent in litigation.
Sometimes things are just private and personally I wouldn't want to be spammed with advertisements for divorce lawyers because Google had access to that info. You really should read up more about how companies like Google and Facebook already have abused the privilege of information at their disposal and how the problem could become much larger if we don't start regulating and monitoring their actions. It's time for the "veil" of trade secrets protecting these guys to be removed.
No one is forced to post private information on social media sites, nor are they forced to text the info. If you do that, you do so at your own risk. This isn't really difficult, and ranks right up there with keeping your mouth shut when it's in your best interest.
No one is forced to post private information on social media sites, nor are they forced to text the info. If you do that, you do so at your own risk. This isn't really difficult, and ranks right up there with keeping your mouth shut when it's in your best interest.
I suppose making phone calls or leaving voice messages or sending emails are "at my own risk" as well? So I should just invest in and invent a "Get Smart" isolation tube for all of my communications then? Don't be naive. There are reasons why warrants are normally required for such information to be obtained and these days we are encroaching upon an era where those rights could vanish. Me sending a text to my lawyer or my doctor should be no less private than me making a phone call.
I suppose making phone calls or leaving voice messages or sending emails are "at my own risk" as well? So I should just invest in and invent a "get Smart" isolation tube for all of my communications then? Don't be naive.
If you're stupid enough to leave personal info in a voice message, or to put it in an email/text, then maybe you live on a planet where this behavior hasn't come back to bite folks in their posterior on a regular basis. Most of us here, and that pay attention to the news, have seen this in action over a period of several years. Where have you been?
So I changed all three phones to the 1000 text plan this morning after reading about this blatant money grab. Once iMessage comes I will drop me texts completely and use iMessage and Google Voice. I wish my wife would use Google Voice texting so we could completely drop AT&T texting.
I am really surprised that AT&T didn't do what T-mobile does and simply roll it into all the minutes plans. That way nobody could drop their texting costs and it wouldn't have bee as blatant as ( for all pratical purposes) doubling their texting costs.
If you're stupid enough to leave personal info in a voice message, or to put it in an email/text, then maybe you live on a planet where this behavior hasn't come back to bite folks in their posterior on a regular basis. Most of us here, and that pay attention to the news, have seen this in action over a period of several years. Where have you been?
You just proved my point. In the past it was inadmissible. Today that situation has changed even though the laws have not been clearly voted upon. Corporations like Google should not have the right to access this info. I can't believe you are not listening to yourself. Your only argument is... "well thats the way it is get used to it." Good job.