Went to best buy. Was told that they pulled the stock. Don't know what that means. Not selling them and shipping them back?
The department manager at my Best Buy was a little more informative. He told me that Best Buy sent 220,000 Touchpads back to HP and HP will then have to worry about selling them. He had called all the other stores which previously sold the TouchPad in my city and none of them had any stock - he didn't know if they sold them or shipped them back.
It does seem sort of odd. HP will presumably be paying the shipping and then have the expense of selling them on their own web site. Best Buy usually likes loss leaders that draw people into the store. I would have thought that if HP wanted to mark them down to $99 that BB would be more than happy to sell them - to attract more customers.
Interestingly, BB Canada apparently did not return them. I'm speculating that the hassle and cost of getting them back through customs wasn't worth it. Better to sell them onsite and give BB a credit.
HP's web site says "Out of stock. Check back soon". The manager didn't know whether that meant that they had already sold the 220,000 that BB shipped back or whether it meant that they had sold out of their existing stock and after BB's return, they would show up again on the web site. I'm guessing the latter - there probably hasn't been enough time for them all to be shipped back and resold.
When the E.T. game on the Atari 2600 flopped, Atari was stuck with millions of copies of the cartridge and they couldn't get rid of them at any price. It was one of the worst games ever, a complete piece of crap and probably real quickly made. PacMan was complete crap too and was also a big flop. The 2600 version of PacMan is probably the worst version of PacMan to exist on any device or console. It's beyond horrible. So, Atari dumped millions of cartridges into a landfill, crushed everything and poured concrete over everything.
Not good enough. There is a real danger that a civilization a thousand years from now will dig up these cartridges, and with their advanced technology, reassemble them from the shattered pieces, reverse engineer the Atari 2600 and play E.T. and PacMan. Then, they will form a new theory about the demise of our civilization. And they will have pinpointed the exact moment it began its decline
We must post warning signs in every language around this landfill.
I have the offical PacMan from Namco on my iPad2 now and it's pretty good, it's like the original, but playing with the touch controls is not the same as using a controller, since the original uses a joystick.
The cancellation of the TouchPad has been viewed as a major victory for Apple and the iPad, with some pundits reiterating their belief that the "tablet market" is really only an "iPad market."
My point exactly:
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Originally Posted by john galt
Computer, peripheral, whatever you want to call it...
All the Touchpad stock was sold out in my area by early morning. From looking at eBay, it appears that the resellers swooped in and are quickly turning them around at about $200. If they had dropped the retail price to $200 instead of $99, they still would have sold out but I guess HP was desperate to wash their hands of this debacle and Leo Apotheker will live in infamy as the man who will transformed HP from a giant to a mouse.
Mick and the boys got their start by copying the Beatles.
Wrong again.
The Stones were some of the early white boy blues musicians, while the early Beatles did rockabilly and rock ad roll covers.
Stones: R&B and blues cover songs dominated the Rolling Stones' early material, ... having been "rooted in traditional verities, in rhythm-and-blues and soul music",... primitive blues typified by Chess Records' artists such as Muddy Waters, who wrote the song "Rollin' Stone" after which the band is named... (From Wikipedia)
Beatles: Rooted in skiffle and 1950s rock and roll,... (again from wikipedia)
The early Beatles covered such artists as Little Richard and Carl Perkins, among others, while as pointed out above, the Stones were influenced much more by the artists on Chess.
And please don't claim that "it's really all just the same thing". It ain't.
HP's web site says "Out of stock. Check back soon". The manager didn't know whether that meant that they had already sold the 220,000 that BB shipped back or whether it meant that they had sold out of their existing stock and after BB's return, they would show up again on the web site. I'm guessing the latter - there probably hasn't been enough time for them all to be shipped back and resold.
Exactly, they have to receive them, restock them etc. Plus they would not say "check back soon".
I recon it's easier accounting-wise for HP to collect them and sell them than having the retailers do it.
The department manager at my Best Buy was a little more informative. He told me that Best Buy sent 220,000 Touchpads back to HP and HP will then have to worry about selling them. He had called all the other stores which previously sold the TouchPad in my city and none of them had any stock - he didn't know if they sold them or shipped them back.
It does seem sort of odd. HP will presumably be paying the shipping and then have the expense of selling them on their own web site. Best Buy usually likes loss leaders that draw people into the store. I would have thought that if HP wanted to mark them down to $99 that BB would be more than happy to sell them - to attract more customers.
Interestingly, BB Canada apparently did not return them. I'm speculating that the hassle and cost of getting them back through customs wasn't worth it. Better to sell them onsite and give BB a credit.
HP's web site says "Out of stock. Check back soon". The manager didn't know whether that meant that they had already sold the 220,000 that BB shipped back or whether it meant that they had sold out of their existing stock and after BB's return, they would show up again on the web site. I'm guessing the latter - there probably hasn't been enough time for them all to be shipped back and resold.
Probably HP has been advised by their lawyers and bean counters to stop selling and avoid liabilities. Not worth $99 for all the potential problems. They could probably just sell them to white boxers for the parts.
The Stones were some of the early white boy blues musicians, while the early Beatles did rockabilly and rock ad roll covers.
Stones: R&B and blues cover songs dominated the Rolling Stones' early material, ... having been "rooted in traditional verities, in rhythm-and-blues and soul music",... primitive blues typified by Chess Records' artists such as Muddy Waters, who wrote the song "Rollin' Stone" after which the band is named... (From Wikipedia)
Beatles: Rooted in skiffle and 1950s rock and roll,... (again from wikipedia)
The early Beatles covered such artists as Little Richard and Carl Perkins, among others, while as pointed out above, the Stones were influenced much more by the artists on Chess.
And please don't claim that "it's really all just the same thing". It ain't.
... and both bands loved Buddy Holly and were heavily influenced by him. I personally feel he is the strongest bridge between them and their main influences which you accurately describe.
After reading the news sites last night I woke up and checked my local walmart to find they had 16 in stock for $99 and $149 so I picked up the 32gb version. Sad this is a nice device. The webos feels good and intuitive just needs a few more developers to jump aboard and I think it would have had a solid user base for $149 anyway no way in hell I would have paid $599 for this. My fiance will be pissed I bought another gadget but I truly feel she will change her mind after playing with it for 10 minutes
... and both bands loved Buddy Holly and were heavily influenced by him. I personally feel he is the strongest bridge between them and their main influences which you accurately describe.
I wouldn't be surprised if Google-Motorola became the only producers of Android tablets while Google's Android partners focused on smartphones.
I was thinking that too; although Microsoft will probably make a play for a share of the tablet market too. You have to wonder though who will be willing to make hardware for a Microsoft tablet. If all these hardware builders have gotten burned offering a tablet featuring Android OS or their own proprietary OS like HP did with WebOS and with Microsoft having no track record of success in tablets...no separate hardware vendor may be willing to play ball with a Windows OS tablet offering. So, in order to get Windows on tablet hardware Microsoft may end up purchasing one of these exiting hardware builders so they can do so themselves. Furthermore, if other hardware vendors follow HP's lead and try to exit even their PC businesses then this problem extends further for Microsoft. Forget tablets...who will even build PC's for Windows? Sure, Microsoft "owns" the PC market but if building PC hardware is so unprofitable that even a dominant player like HP wants out then probably others will too...especially if the iPad onslaught continues and they perceive the whole concept of a PC to be a dying breed. So the need for Microsoft to become like Apple after all these many years now and build their hardware in-house not just for their tablets but also for their desktops and laptops may happen.
I know that is a lot of tenuous speculation, but we may end up with three walled gardens...Apple, Google/Motorola, and Microsoft/<<whatever-hardware-maker-they-purhcase>>...and all these other players like Dell, Toshiba, Sony, etc. get out of the PC business. Players like Dell may still continue to make Windows hardware for the data center...but maybe they get out of the consumer market.
It's amazing that all this change is happening so suddenly and so profoundly.
I can think of a lot of things I'd rather have for $100 than an obsolete tablet for which no bug fix, security update, or hardware support of any kind will ever be available.
It is $100 for a touch-screen tablet based on WebOS, which is actually a pretty decent operating system. Compare that to hundreds for the better iPad and this might actually be a good deal for a lot of people. Sure, there's no good support going forward and this will probably limit the product's lifespan, but again, $100. You're probably being overly harsh on it.
It's actually a little bit of a shame how quickly HP hit the wall and splattered.
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Xmas gift!!!:d
For someone you don't like...
After all, it's still an HP non-iPad. Might as well have been a Microsoft Kin.
Next week's promotion will be called BNGO... pronounced Bingo!
Stands for: Buy None Get One...
Best Buy will be giving away Galaxy tablets with a Samsung TVs:
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...all_of_eu.html
Though that probably looks a lot less appealing now that HP has set the selling price of the TouchPad so low...
Went to best buy. Was told that they pulled the stock. Don't know what that means. Not selling them and shipping them back?
The department manager at my Best Buy was a little more informative. He told me that Best Buy sent 220,000 Touchpads back to HP and HP will then have to worry about selling them. He had called all the other stores which previously sold the TouchPad in my city and none of them had any stock - he didn't know if they sold them or shipped them back.
It does seem sort of odd. HP will presumably be paying the shipping and then have the expense of selling them on their own web site. Best Buy usually likes loss leaders that draw people into the store. I would have thought that if HP wanted to mark them down to $99 that BB would be more than happy to sell them - to attract more customers.
Interestingly, BB Canada apparently did not return them. I'm speculating that the hassle and cost of getting them back through customs wasn't worth it. Better to sell them onsite and give BB a credit.
HP's web site says "Out of stock. Check back soon". The manager didn't know whether that meant that they had already sold the 220,000 that BB shipped back or whether it meant that they had sold out of their existing stock and after BB's return, they would show up again on the web site. I'm guessing the latter - there probably hasn't been enough time for them all to be shipped back and resold.
When the E.T. game on the Atari 2600 flopped, Atari was stuck with millions of copies of the cartridge and they couldn't get rid of them at any price. It was one of the worst games ever, a complete piece of crap and probably real quickly made. PacMan was complete crap too and was also a big flop. The 2600 version of PacMan is probably the worst version of PacMan to exist on any device or console. It's beyond horrible. So, Atari dumped millions of cartridges into a landfill, crushed everything and poured concrete over everything.
Not good enough. There is a real danger that a civilization a thousand years from now will dig up these cartridges, and with their advanced technology, reassemble them from the shattered pieces, reverse engineer the Atari 2600 and play E.T. and PacMan. Then, they will form a new theory about the demise of our civilization. And they will have pinpointed the exact moment it began its decline
We must post warning signs in every language around this landfill.
I have the offical PacMan from Namco on my iPad2 now and it's pretty good, it's like the original, but playing with the touch controls is not the same as using a controller, since the original uses a joystick.
Maybe they can support the iCade:
http://www.thinkgeek.com/electronics...age_Featured_3
The cancellation of the TouchPad has been viewed as a major victory for Apple and the iPad, with some pundits reiterating their belief that the "tablet market" is really only an "iPad market."
My point exactly:
Computer, peripheral, whatever you want to call it...
... Apple has 100% of the iPad market.
HP just made a $10B acquisition. I guess they really have no interest in the consumer market.
Mick and the boys got their start by copying the Beatles.
Wrong again.
The Stones were some of the early white boy blues musicians, while the early Beatles did rockabilly and rock ad roll covers.
Stones: R&B and blues cover songs dominated the Rolling Stones' early material, ... having been "rooted in traditional verities, in rhythm-and-blues and soul music",... primitive blues typified by Chess Records' artists such as Muddy Waters, who wrote the song "Rollin' Stone" after which the band is named... (From Wikipedia)
Beatles: Rooted in skiffle and 1950s rock and roll,... (again from wikipedia)
The early Beatles covered such artists as Little Richard and Carl Perkins, among others, while as pointed out above, the Stones were influenced much more by the artists on Chess.
And please don't claim that "it's really all just the same thing". It ain't.
Went to best buy. Was told that they pulled the stock. Don't know what that means. Not selling them and shipping them back?
Stores are sold out because they are not willing tomove themfron the warehouse to the stores. I bet they are having hp pick up the inventory.
Man hours are nit going to be wasted whetheratthe warehouse, at accounting, at delivery and at the retail stores.
HP's web site says "Out of stock. Check back soon". The manager didn't know whether that meant that they had already sold the 220,000 that BB shipped back or whether it meant that they had sold out of their existing stock and after BB's return, they would show up again on the web site. I'm guessing the latter - there probably hasn't been enough time for them all to be shipped back and resold.
Exactly, they have to receive them, restock them etc. Plus they would not say "check back soon".
I recon it's easier accounting-wise for HP to collect them and sell them than having the retailers do it.
...which only goes to show how pointless the argument of who copied whom is in a world of endless creativity and awesomeness...
You're comparing the Rolling Stones to the Beatles!!!
Don't get me started!!!
The department manager at my Best Buy was a little more informative. He told me that Best Buy sent 220,000 Touchpads back to HP and HP will then have to worry about selling them. He had called all the other stores which previously sold the TouchPad in my city and none of them had any stock - he didn't know if they sold them or shipped them back.
It does seem sort of odd. HP will presumably be paying the shipping and then have the expense of selling them on their own web site. Best Buy usually likes loss leaders that draw people into the store. I would have thought that if HP wanted to mark them down to $99 that BB would be more than happy to sell them - to attract more customers.
Interestingly, BB Canada apparently did not return them. I'm speculating that the hassle and cost of getting them back through customs wasn't worth it. Better to sell them onsite and give BB a credit.
HP's web site says "Out of stock. Check back soon". The manager didn't know whether that meant that they had already sold the 220,000 that BB shipped back or whether it meant that they had sold out of their existing stock and after BB's return, they would show up again on the web site. I'm guessing the latter - there probably hasn't been enough time for them all to be shipped back and resold.
Probably HP has been advised by their lawyers and bean counters to stop selling and avoid liabilities. Not worth $99 for all the potential problems. They could probably just sell them to white boxers for the parts.
Wrong again.
The Stones were some of the early white boy blues musicians, while the early Beatles did rockabilly and rock ad roll covers.
Stones: R&B and blues cover songs dominated the Rolling Stones' early material, ... having been "rooted in traditional verities, in rhythm-and-blues and soul music",... primitive blues typified by Chess Records' artists such as Muddy Waters, who wrote the song "Rollin' Stone" after which the band is named... (From Wikipedia)
Beatles: Rooted in skiffle and 1950s rock and roll,... (again from wikipedia)
The early Beatles covered such artists as Little Richard and Carl Perkins, among others, while as pointed out above, the Stones were influenced much more by the artists on Chess.
And please don't claim that "it's really all just the same thing". It ain't.
... and both bands loved Buddy Holly and were heavily influenced by him. I personally feel he is the strongest bridge between them and their main influences which you accurately describe.
cheers!
... and both bands loved Buddy Holly and were heavily influenced by him. I personally feel he is the strongest bridge between them and their main influences which you accurately describe.
I would have said Holly and Berry...
... and now back to regular programming.
I would have said Holly and Berry...
... and now back to regular programming.
Hehe .. sorry
I wouldn't be surprised if Google-Motorola became the only producers of Android tablets while Google's Android partners focused on smartphones.
I was thinking that too; although Microsoft will probably make a play for a share of the tablet market too. You have to wonder though who will be willing to make hardware for a Microsoft tablet. If all these hardware builders have gotten burned offering a tablet featuring Android OS or their own proprietary OS like HP did with WebOS and with Microsoft having no track record of success in tablets...no separate hardware vendor may be willing to play ball with a Windows OS tablet offering. So, in order to get Windows on tablet hardware Microsoft may end up purchasing one of these exiting hardware builders so they can do so themselves. Furthermore, if other hardware vendors follow HP's lead and try to exit even their PC businesses then this problem extends further for Microsoft. Forget tablets...who will even build PC's for Windows? Sure, Microsoft "owns" the PC market but if building PC hardware is so unprofitable that even a dominant player like HP wants out then probably others will too...especially if the iPad onslaught continues and they perceive the whole concept of a PC to be a dying breed. So the need for Microsoft to become like Apple after all these many years now and build their hardware in-house not just for their tablets but also for their desktops and laptops may happen.
I know that is a lot of tenuous speculation, but we may end up with three walled gardens...Apple, Google/Motorola, and Microsoft/<<whatever-hardware-maker-they-purhcase>>...and all these other players like Dell, Toshiba, Sony, etc. get out of the PC business. Players like Dell may still continue to make Windows hardware for the data center...but maybe they get out of the consumer market.
It's amazing that all this change is happening so suddenly and so profoundly.
I can think of a lot of things I'd rather have for $100 than an obsolete tablet for which no bug fix, security update, or hardware support of any kind will ever be available.
It is $100 for a touch-screen tablet based on WebOS, which is actually a pretty decent operating system. Compare that to hundreds for the better iPad and this might actually be a good deal for a lot of people. Sure, there's no good support going forward and this will probably limit the product's lifespan, but again, $100. You're probably being overly harsh on it.
It's actually a little bit of a shame how quickly HP hit the wall and splattered.
So many comments about using it on the can. HP could have made a killing by calling it the HP PoopPad from the start.
Hilarious and Anderson Cooper would have been the perfect pitch man with all the scatological puns ...