I think this firm said Apple will have a 42% share not because they think the iPad will take a backseat to any other competitor, but to illustrate what happened with the iPhone. The iPhone is the most profitable and most bought phone in the world, but it only has about a 28% share give or take some. The reason is that the other 72% is being filled by a bunch of other companies. So while the iPad will probably be the best and most bought in 2015, there will most likely be a lot more competitors with better tablets etc. It is a reasonable assumption by them, but of course no one will know until that day comes.
It's a completely different type of market due to the carrier associations with various HW and expected subsidies. The tablet market is more akin to the PMP market. If the competition doesn't have a viable competitor by the time Apple releases the iPad with a HiDPI display then I say Apple's chances of dominating the tablet market the way they dominated the PMP market near 100%.
Try reading for comprehension. I said, "could have".
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That's what the Microsoft Surface is for.
Let's see... a $500 device that can be taken from table to table and easily replaced... or replace every table in the restaurant at $7,500 a crack... hmmm.
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Single-purpose machines went out of vogue at the turn of the LAST decade.
Actually, you have a set of general purpose machines modified and/or customized to take on specific tasks.
That also means IHS has increased Apple's expected share of the market this year from 64 to 74 percent, and its expected share in 2015 from 32 to 43.6 percent of all tablets.
"IHS now believes Apple will account for the majority of tablet shipments through the year 2013, one year longer than the previous outlook," the firm stated. It did not articulate reasons why Apple's share of the tablet market is expected to shrink.
Apple's majority share among iPod competitors never eroded significantly, the company's majority position in iTunes digital media hasn't been overtaken, its sales of Apps haven't met any challenge from alternative smartphone software stores, and the company is now unmatched among so called "ultrabook" competitors with the MacBook Air, with no signs pointing to an eventual loss of that market either.
What a joke, this is a 'prediction'? I bet in 1991 they would have predicted that Microsoft's share of PC operating systems was about to drop to 40% too.
Thanks AI for pointing out the complete lack of rationale or logic for saying Apple's tablet share will be cut in half within the next few years. I'm not an Apple acolyte, but the fact is the iPad is the *only* tablet that most people want, and with it being adopted wholesale by businesses left and right (see stories on United's 11,000 iPad order, and the NFL, just in the last 2 days) there's not even a glimmer of a shred of a hope that any tablet currently in existence or reasonably forecast to be on the market in the next year+ is going to even come close to displacing the iPad.
That's what the Microsoft Surface is for. Why waste time on menus when you can make the table itself the menu? And play with digital bubbles coming off your drink!
I do believe he was talking unique hardware design. He did mention that these devices types use custom business apps.
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Single-purpose machines went out of vogue at the turn of the LAST decade.
Maybe as personal computing a.k.a. consumer PCs are concerned, but business and many educational devices are alive and doing well, as we speak!
I did, however, imply that HP could have focused their efforts (and designs) on markets that Apple is never going to go after.
If you're doing a custom restaurant menu system, you need a sturdy tablet that can take abuse, be dropped, and so on. Think iPad "Toughbook."
And since it's also basically a custom terminal running custom software, the fact that Apple has 100 zillion apps is meaningless. It does what it does and that's it. Same for cash register systems, or medical tablets (that can also be easily cleaned and sterilized).
The key to competing with Apple lies in being where they are not...
I've seen iPads in what seem to be convenient and durable casing at a couple of local restaurants here - used by waitstaff to take orders, and the hosts to track tables. And you do realize that all of the Fortune 50 (and well beyond that I'm sure) have a custom, roped off, corporate-centric "App Store" they can call their own in which to develop completely customized apps for iOS - wholly aside from the "100 zillion apps" that the public sees in the regular App Store.
There's even a "kitchen case" out there now that props up the iPad and allows you to run it under running water to clean off when it get splashed while cooking.
You are moving too slow - where you anticipate the iPad isn't - it is. Most of the medical operations around here have deployed significant numbers of iPads according to my local Apple Store business team and the developers I talk to. It is cheaper by far than many of the specialized data entry systems specialized for a given segment, be it food service or medical use.
If the news from the NYPost is accurate, Amazon might make more than a fair impact in the tablet market. Reports say that Amazon's soon-to-release Android tablet will retail for "hundreds less than the iPad", garnering guesses at a $299 entry level model. That would hit the sweet spot for a whole lot of casual users IMHO.
We'll all know soon enough, but if that pricing is accurate it's a heck of a surprise.
If the news from the NYPost is accurate, Amazon might make more than a fair impact in the tablet market. Reports say that Amazon's soon-to-release Android tablet will retail for "hundreds less than the iPad", garnering guesses at a $299 entry level model. That would hit the sweet spot for a whole lot of casual users IMHO.
We'll all know soon enough, but if that pricing is accurate it's a heck of a surprise.
That seems low for a quality product that isn't a loss-leader but they need to get it out before the iPad 3 with Retina Display or even Amazon with their decent ecosystem may not be able to combat Apple's hold on the iPad ? ahem, I mean tablet ? market.
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I think this firm said Apple will have a 42% share not because they think the iPad will take a backseat to any other competitor, but to illustrate what happened with the iPhone. The iPhone is the most profitable and most bought phone in the world, but it only has about a 28% share give or take some. The reason is that the other 72% is being filled by a bunch of other companies. So while the iPad will probably be the best and most bought in 2015, there will most likely be a lot more competitors with better tablets etc. It is a reasonable assumption by them, but of course no one will know until that day comes.
It's a completely different type of market due to the carrier associations with various HW and expected subsidies. The tablet market is more akin to the PMP market. If the competition doesn't have a viable competitor by the time Apple releases the iPad with a HiDPI display then I say Apple's chances of dominating the tablet market the way they dominated the PMP market near 100%.
But they didn't. And now they're dead.
Try reading for comprehension. I said, "could have".
That's what the Microsoft Surface is for.
Let's see... a $500 device that can be taken from table to table and easily replaced... or replace every table in the restaurant at $7,500 a crack... hmmm.
Single-purpose machines went out of vogue at the turn of the LAST decade.
Actually, you have a set of general purpose machines modified and/or customized to take on specific tasks.
That also means IHS has increased Apple's expected share of the market this year from 64 to 74 percent, and its expected share in 2015 from 32 to 43.6 percent of all tablets.
"IHS now believes Apple will account for the majority of tablet shipments through the year 2013, one year longer than the previous outlook," the firm stated. It did not articulate reasons why Apple's share of the tablet market is expected to shrink.
Apple's majority share among iPod competitors never eroded significantly, the company's majority position in iTunes digital media hasn't been overtaken, its sales of Apps haven't met any challenge from alternative smartphone software stores, and the company is now unmatched among so called "ultrabook" competitors with the MacBook Air, with no signs pointing to an eventual loss of that market either.
What a joke, this is a 'prediction'? I bet in 1991 they would have predicted that Microsoft's share of PC operating systems was about to drop to 40% too.
Thanks AI for pointing out the complete lack of rationale or logic for saying Apple's tablet share will be cut in half within the next few years. I'm not an Apple acolyte, but the fact is the iPad is the *only* tablet that most people want, and with it being adopted wholesale by businesses left and right (see stories on United's 11,000 iPad order, and the NFL, just in the last 2 days) there's not even a glimmer of a shred of a hope that any tablet currently in existence or reasonably forecast to be on the market in the next year+ is going to even come close to displacing the iPad.
What a crock.
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The key to competing with Apple lies in being where they are not...
Amen! You can say that again and again and again...
That's what the Microsoft Surface is for. Why waste time on menus when you can make the table itself the menu? And play with digital bubbles coming off your drink!
I do believe he was talking unique hardware design. He did mention that these devices types use custom business apps.
Single-purpose machines went out of vogue at the turn of the LAST decade.
Maybe as personal computing a.k.a. consumer PCs are concerned, but business and many educational devices are alive and doing well, as we speak!
I never said anything about overtaking Apple.
I did, however, imply that HP could have focused their efforts (and designs) on markets that Apple is never going to go after.
If you're doing a custom restaurant menu system, you need a sturdy tablet that can take abuse, be dropped, and so on. Think iPad "Toughbook."
And since it's also basically a custom terminal running custom software, the fact that Apple has 100 zillion apps is meaningless. It does what it does and that's it. Same for cash register systems, or medical tablets (that can also be easily cleaned and sterilized).
The key to competing with Apple lies in being where they are not...
I've seen iPads in what seem to be convenient and durable casing at a couple of local restaurants here - used by waitstaff to take orders, and the hosts to track tables. And you do realize that all of the Fortune 50 (and well beyond that I'm sure) have a custom, roped off, corporate-centric "App Store" they can call their own in which to develop completely customized apps for iOS - wholly aside from the "100 zillion apps" that the public sees in the regular App Store.
There's even a "kitchen case" out there now that props up the iPad and allows you to run it under running water to clean off when it get splashed while cooking.
You are moving too slow - where you anticipate the iPad isn't - it is. Most of the medical operations around here have deployed significant numbers of iPads according to my local Apple Store business team and the developers I talk to. It is cheaper by far than many of the specialized data entry systems specialized for a given segment, be it food service or medical use.
We'll all know soon enough, but if that pricing is accurate it's a heck of a surprise.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/busines...9cl8amKOPBSDII
If the news from the NYPost is accurate, Amazon might make more than a fair impact in the tablet market. Reports say that Amazon's soon-to-release Android tablet will retail for "hundreds less than the iPad", garnering guesses at a $299 entry level model. That would hit the sweet spot for a whole lot of casual users IMHO.
We'll all know soon enough, but if that pricing is accurate it's a heck of a surprise.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/busines...9cl8amKOPBSDII
That seems low for a quality product that isn't a loss-leader but they need to get it out before the iPad 3 with Retina Display or even Amazon with their decent ecosystem may not be able to combat Apple's hold on the iPad ? ahem, I mean tablet ? market.