Apple's iPhone 5 expected to 'steamroll' RIM's BlackBerry 7 phones

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  • Reply 61 of 95
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by lilgto64 View Post


    1. I don't think it is clear that Android sales have even equaled iOS sales yet: http://www.loopinsight.com/2011/04/2...-market-share/



    2. from what dark hole of misinformation did you pull the Apple's cash reserves are falling ? http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...g_balance.html http://www.mactrast.com/2011/09/appl...e-end-of-2012/



    [/sarcasm]



    You missed it.
  • Reply 62 of 95
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Bancho View Post


    You may have missed the sarcasm in his post, hence the "(not)" at the end.



    so I did.
  • Reply 63 of 95
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tundraboy View Post


    Remember, RIMs problems are rooted in their failure to keep pace with the rival smart phones' technology.



    +1 Additionally, they were arrogant and mocked the idea that Apple could come up with a competing phone - they became complacent and are now paying the price.
  • Reply 64 of 95
    wovelwovel Posts: 956member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by kotatsu View Post


    What a pointless news story. I notice you didn't bother to add anything about Android 'steamrolling' iOS, as it will inevitably continue to do.



    And the iPhone will continue to steamroll every Android phone...besides, your point is only valid if you consider Android as a completely unified platform. That is a very, very bold assumption.



    I can tell you for sure what the number 1 phone will be on AT&T and Verizon in 2012. It will be the iPhone. I am about 90% sure this will be true on Sprint too. The only way it is not true is if the iPhone is not sold on sprint. The iPhone 5 will be the number 1 handset in the world in 2012. None of my assumptions are anywhere near as big as yours.
  • Reply 65 of 95
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by lilgto64 View Post


    1. I don't think it is clear that Android sales have even equaled iOS sales yet: http://www.loopinsight.com/2011/04/2...-market-share/



    2. from what dark hole of misinformation did you pull the Apple's cash reserves are falling ? http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...g_balance.html http://www.mactrast.com/2011/09/appl...e-end-of-2012/



    Finally a story that defines why you cannot compare iPhones to Android. I kinda understood logically but with some many stories comparing Android to iPhones I was getting confused...thinking 'Am I missing something?' Thank you for sharing this story.
  • Reply 66 of 95
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,404member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by lilgto64 View Post


    1. I don't think it is clear that Android sales have even equaled iOS sales yet: http://www.loopinsight.com/2011/04/2...-market-share/



    2. from what dark hole of misinformation did you pull the Apple's cash reserves are falling ? http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...g_balance.html http://www.mactrast.com/2011/09/appl...e-end-of-2012/



    Great Links. The first link's article is so blindingly obvious I can't believe Android fans even need to have this pointed out but it seems they do. iOS and iPhone are wiping the floor with both Android in total v iOS and Apple as an phone maker against anyone else plain and simple. The added fact Apple is making massive margins whereas the rest are not is just so much the better for AAPL.
  • Reply 67 of 95
    A company makes $300m in profit in 3 months and it's "failing"?



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by digitalclips View Post


    Great Links. The first link's article is so blindingly obvious I can't believe Android fans even need to have this pointed out but it seems they do. iOS and iPhone are wiping the floor with both Android in total v iOS and Apple as an phone maker against anyone else plain and simple. The added fact Apple is making massive margins whereas the rest are not is just so much the better for AAPL.



    So why is it that every time I go to major events I see more people with HTC and Samsung phones than I see with iPhone?
  • Reply 68 of 95
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by island hermit View Post


    More than any other smart phone manufacturer, RIM had their chance. With absolutely no vision at the top they failed to innovate. Death soon follows when blood stops being pumped to the brain.



    this man speaks facts (in this instance) -_-



    In fact I'd argue that RIM's and Microsoft's stagnation allowed for the exponential growth of Android. iOS didn't have to rely on any failures to succeed...and then Android filled the gap that these two too comfortable companies left in the evolving smartphone market.



    At least MS seems to be back on track with WP7+ (though the other two trains may be too far ahead, time will tell)



    RIM keeps falling of the track and may be disqualified relatively shortly unless they can get some sort of monumental speed boost in the near future.
  • Reply 69 of 95
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ryb View Post


    Yes. Apple is in danger of losing most of its business because Android phones are steamrolling iPhone sales. Fewer and fewer iPhones are being sold each quarter and Apple is bleeding money. The cash reserves at Apple are falling due to the incredible success of Android devices. I'm completely with you on this. AI is derelict, as usual, in not reporting this. AI is completely blinded by their fanboi mentality.



    (Not)







    More and more smartphones PERIOD are being bought...Android and iOS continue to dominate the smartphone market...Android is growing faster, sure, but iOS is no where near falling...





    Quote:
    Originally Posted by christopher126 View Post


    I have an iP4 and three of my coworkers have Android's...they complain that they are POS. They do things one way one time and another thing the next time...they find them really annoying. Reminds me of my Windows friends, problems, problems, problems!



    Eh...your coworkers are either morons or bought shitty phones.



    That's the darkside of choice.
  • Reply 70 of 95
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by lilgto64 View Post


    1. I don't think it is clear that Android sales have even equaled iOS sales yet: http://www.loopinsight.com/2011/04/2...-market-share/



    2. from what dark hole of misinformation did you pull the Apple's cash reserves are falling ? http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...g_balance.html http://www.mactrast.com/2011/09/appl...e-end-of-2012/



    regarding the loopinsight article only idiots think Android has a larger share than iOS on the OS level. When the more rational people bring this totally pointless argument into the mix they are at least smart enough to specify the smartphone market.
  • Reply 71 of 95
    While it's been discussed RIM's demise was predetermined when the iPhone was introduced, I think the real knockout blow is when Apple poached RIM's head of enterprise Sales and his team last year.



    Apple started to finally make inroads to the enterprise market, but getting RIM's enterprise sales guys was huge. Not like a machine like Apple needed anymore help, but I think this just sped up the process of RIM's demise.



    Alas I am sad as a Canadian that another Canadian tech giant is getting beaten to a pulp. At least it wasnt greed or corruption that undermined it's future, just plain arrogance unfortunately.



    At least we still have Canadarm2.
  • Reply 72 of 95
    tjwaltjwal Posts: 404member
    RIM is still pretty strong in the enterprise market where, contrary to what some posters think, security is a BIG DEAL.



    I wouldn't be suprised if Microsoft took a run at RIM. It would be a good fit given their focus on large corporate users. MS and BB might even add value to each other.



    Apple doesn't seem to be directly interested in that market. Their penatration to date seems to be a carry over from the consumer market where they do quite well.
  • Reply 73 of 95
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


    So who's gonna buy RIM?



    Sounds to me like Google might try.



    I think Apple certainly aught to.



    Where's the value to Apple in that? Other than a valuable patent portfolio, RIM brings very little to the table.



    HP's webOS GBU, on the other hand, seems to me to be much more attractive for Apple.
  • Reply 74 of 95
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by al_bundy View Post


    henry ford syndrome



    you get a world changing innovator but they stagnate on their original vision and fail to change. in the 1920's it was Ford vs GM. in the 2000's it was MS vs Google/Apple. Bill Gates made microsoft but for mobile he insisted on a desktop UI and it never went anywhere. Pocket PC was pretty cool along with Palm but too many shortcomings to make it really useful. same with intel and AMD. they dumped their mobile business right before the big boom because management was focused on PC/server business



    That is actually precisely why Jobs is so admired. He had the ability to completely drop what he was doing historically, and start on something absolutely new.



    I mean, Mac OS X was his baby (right from its creation at NextStep), but when it came to equipping the iPhone, and iPad, they dropped it in favor of iOS.
  • Reply 75 of 95
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post


    White said RIM's BlackBerry fresh was simply too little, too late



    Is this a new model Blackberry? Or possibly a typo (that should say refresh) from AI which rarely happens? \ Or too little too late?
  • Reply 76 of 95
    rybryb Posts: 56member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by lilgto64 View Post


    1. I don't think it is clear that Android sales have even equaled iOS sales yet: http://www.loopinsight.com/2011/04/2...-market-share/



    2. from what dark hole of misinformation did you pull the Apple's cash reserves are falling ? http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...g_balance.html http://www.mactrast.com/2011/09/appl...e-end-of-2012/



    Sorry. It was sarcasm.
  • Reply 77 of 95
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ryb View Post


    Sorry. It was sarcasm.



    oh okay, then I retract my comment towards you.
  • Reply 78 of 95
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by lilgto64 View Post


    1. I don't think it is clear that Android sales have even equaled iOS sales yet: http://www.loopinsight.com/2011/04/2...-market-share/



    2. from what dark hole of misinformation did you pull the Apple's cash reserves are falling ? http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...g_balance.html http://www.mactrast.com/2011/09/appl...e-end-of-2012/



    That entire post was a joke, as evidenced by the "not" at the conclusion. I think we all need a drink.
  • Reply 79 of 95
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    Originally Posted by pondosinatra View Post


    As a Canadian I feel sad about this. It seems like it's been a never ending stream of great companies - Corel, ATI, Nortel, and now RIM that reach a certain level of success and then get gobbled up by the American behemoths down south.



    I use an iPhone at work, mostly because our President wanted one and I had to support it - but 99% of our users run Blackberry's. I honestly think Blackberry's are a better product in the corporate world, but as we all know Apple is the media darling so gets all the headlines and therefore mindshare.



    With due respect (and empathy), I've just found the BB interface and OS incredibly cumbersome and counter-intuitive. Even after almost 2 years (contract's up next month!) I find it annoying, requiring too many menu and sub-menu elections to do the simplest task. Whereas the day I picked up my SO's iPhone 3GS, it all just "made sense" and was incredibly workable.



    And with Apple now supporting enterprise solutions, I think it's hard to continue to justify the statement that BBs are "better" for business.
  • Reply 80 of 95
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by pondosinatra View Post


    As a Canadian I feel sad about this. It seems like it's been a never ending stream of great companies - Corel, ATI, Nortel, and now RIM that reach a certain level of success and then get gobbled up by the American behemoths down south.



    I use an iPhone at work, mostly because our President wanted one and I had to support it - but 99% of our users run Blackberry's. I honestly think Blackberry's are a better product in the corporate world, but as we all know Apple is the media darling so gets all the headlines and therefore mindshare.



    I don't have an opinion on blackberries, because I've never used them before, and don't care to start. However, I do take issue with some of the other Canadian tech firms you lament over. Simply put, I am a former customer of Corel, ATI, and Matrox, and I have nothing good to say about them. ATI (if you don't include products that came out of ArtX who basically replaced their awful graphics chips like the Rage Pro with the Radeon-branded stuff) never built a chip without major driver problems on Windows. Corel can go to Hell after taking my money for a shoddy, horribly buggy release of Corel Draw back in 95. And Matrox was steamrolled by upstarts like nVidia and (for a time) 3dfx, but I remember them closing their support lines after a snowstorm, something that happens in Canada, I guess. I can understand Canadian nationals wanting to cheer for their home team, but I don't shed a tear for these uncompetitive companies. I don't care what country they are from. Good riddance.
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