A Prius is an excellent bargain at $35K if what you need to do is run errands - you'll save lots of money on gas. But if you need to transport bags of cement and concrete block, it is a complete waste of money because it can't do the job.
If you're calling FCP 7 files "bags of cement", you'll pay the money to convert them into usable documents in FCP X if you're a pro. If you're a video hobbyist, what are you doing using FCP anyway?
If you're calling FCP 7 files "bags of cement", you'll pay the money to convert them into usable documents in FCP X if you're a pro. If you're a video hobbyist, what are you doing using FCP anyway?
No the reference was to "Heavy Duty" like with a construction crew not a solo freelancer like what FCPX was designed for. Believe it or not we do use multi-cam for our lectures and the subtitle plug in we need doesn't exist for FCPX either.
No the reference was to "Heavy Duty" like with a construction crew not a solo freelancer like what FCPX was designed for. Believe it or not we do use multi-cam for our lectures and the subtitle plug in we need doesn't exist for FCPX either.
But you are aware that Apple has already promised those features (at least the multi-cam portion) for early 2012 delivery?
But you are aware that Apple has already promised those features (at least the multi-cam portion) for early 2012 delivery?
Indeed we will try it soon but in the mean time it does not meet our requirements at all without harping on the non-backward compatibility which we have always taken for granted until now.
Indeed we will try it soon but in the mean time it does not meet our requirements at all without harping on the non-backward compatibility which we have always taken for granted until now.
Perfectly understandable. I'm just sticking with my current Final Cut Studio until early 2012. I do like a lot of the new features in Motion 5.
Final Cut Studio 3 was $999, containing a full suite of applications.
Final Cut Pro 7
Motion 4
Soundtrack Pro 3
Color 1.5
Compressor 3.5
DVD Studio Pro 4
Fair point but Final Cut Pro X, Motion 5 and Compressor 4 can all be bought for less than £300 (don't know dollars in this case). It's a great deal cheaper, that's the point.
Apple seems to have a habit of buying or inheriting pro apps, then dumbing them down for pro-sumers (i.e. amateurs). They bought FCP from Macromedia and now we have FCPX. They bought Shake and now we have Motion X. The void left by FCP is being filled by Avid and the void left by Shake is being filled by Nuke.
Not to mention killing Xserve then rebadging minis as servers. What a joke. How are people supposed to stream their fantastic FCPX MotionX videos without reliable server-class hardware?
I'm not trying to troll here, but if Apple really wants to make 'pro' or enterprise products they need someone on the board who is focused on that. Maybe now that Mr Minimalist is gone there will be room for real pro products instead of diluting the term down to a joke.
Hmmm - Conrad Joe has only been a member since this month and already over 200 posts. Can we maybe say "professional troll"? Besides the fact that he is clueless. It didn't take Apple "years" to introduce cut and paste, and to not think that Apple already had most of these new features planned is just plain stupid. Especially with how quickly they were released. Once again, Apple changes the paradigm of how we work, and we have the whinners and fools rearing their heads.j This was version ONE of a totally new, and complex, editing system. Get over yourself.
FreeRange stop trolling. Professionals' complaints are valid and just because you don't work in that space (or may never) doesn't invalidate our concerns. So quit your bitching about others' bitching.
FWIW stems export is a finishing step for a mixed show heading to foreign markets, not any kind of valid path to a final mix. Get that right please, everyone.
Instead "bitching" I recommend many of the "pros" to try this software. It i a total new software, and yes, it is not Imovie, it is intuitive and the learning curve is faster than the old version.
So far anybody who I know and has put this Final cut to a serious test are finding out that this is really a new generation of editing, for the price, it is the best editing software on the market...and it is for pros...who are not afraid of change..
George
Dude, did Steve Job's RDF group give you another batch of kool-aid? Go ahead and explain to me how for example the color correction tools are just as good, if not better than those in the stand alone Color app, let alone in Final Cut Pro 7.
Commenting on the update with Jim Dalrymple of The Loop on Tuesday, Richard Townhill, senior director of applications marketing at Apple, said the features were added after the company received feedback from its users.
"We listened to the pros and have taken their top feature requests and put them in this update," Townhill said.
But, what about:
Apple doesn't need to listen to users.
Apple was going to provide those features anyway. All those complainers were just wasting their time.
Why does someone need their own server when we have Vimeo?
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Originally Posted by strobe
Not to mention killing Xserve then rebadging minis as servers. What a joke. How are people supposed to stream their fantastic FCPX MotionX videos without reliable server-class hardware?
Yea, I mean why doesn't Apple put all their videos on Vimeo? Also, why have a server for encoding videos when I could tie up an iMac which may or may not be working when I need it to?
Your comment exemplifies why Apple should strip the 'pro' out of their products.
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Final Cut Pro 7 cost $999. You made quite a saving.
Final Cut Studio 3 was $999, containing a full suite of applications.
Final Cut Pro 7
Motion 4
Soundtrack Pro 3
Color 1.5
Compressor 3.5
DVD Studio Pro 4
A Prius is an excellent bargain at $35K if what you need to do is run errands - you'll save lots of money on gas. But if you need to transport bags of cement and concrete block, it is a complete waste of money because it can't do the job.
If you're calling FCP 7 files "bags of cement", you'll pay the money to convert them into usable documents in FCP X if you're a pro. If you're a video hobbyist, what are you doing using FCP anyway?
If you're calling FCP 7 files "bags of cement", you'll pay the money to convert them into usable documents in FCP X if you're a pro. If you're a video hobbyist, what are you doing using FCP anyway?
No the reference was to "Heavy Duty" like with a construction crew not a solo freelancer like what FCPX was designed for. Believe it or not we do use multi-cam for our lectures and the subtitle plug in we need doesn't exist for FCPX either.
No the reference was to "Heavy Duty" like with a construction crew not a solo freelancer like what FCPX was designed for. Believe it or not we do use multi-cam for our lectures and the subtitle plug in we need doesn't exist for FCPX either.
But you are aware that Apple has already promised those features (at least the multi-cam portion) for early 2012 delivery?
But you are aware that Apple has already promised those features (at least the multi-cam portion) for early 2012 delivery?
Indeed we will try it soon but in the mean time it does not meet our requirements at all without harping on the non-backward compatibility which we have always taken for granted until now.
Indeed we will try it soon but in the mean time it does not meet our requirements at all without harping on the non-backward compatibility which we have always taken for granted until now.
Perfectly understandable. I'm just sticking with my current Final Cut Studio until early 2012. I do like a lot of the new features in Motion 5.
Final Cut Studio 3 was $999, containing a full suite of applications.
Final Cut Pro 7
Motion 4
Soundtrack Pro 3
Color 1.5
Compressor 3.5
DVD Studio Pro 4
Fair point but Final Cut Pro X, Motion 5 and Compressor 4 can all be bought for less than £300 (don't know dollars in this case). It's a great deal cheaper, that's the point.
Oh, and I love the new Full-Screen view!
Imagine how nice it would look on a properly calibrated broadcast monitor.
Not to mention killing Xserve then rebadging minis as servers. What a joke. How are people supposed to stream their fantastic FCPX MotionX videos without reliable server-class hardware?
I'm not trying to troll here, but if Apple really wants to make 'pro' or enterprise products they need someone on the board who is focused on that. Maybe now that Mr Minimalist is gone there will be room for real pro products instead of diluting the term down to a joke.
Hmmm - Conrad Joe has only been a member since this month and already over 200 posts. Can we maybe say "professional troll"? Besides the fact that he is clueless. It didn't take Apple "years" to introduce cut and paste, and to not think that Apple already had most of these new features planned is just plain stupid. Especially with how quickly they were released. Once again, Apple changes the paradigm of how we work, and we have the whinners and fools rearing their heads.j This was version ONE of a totally new, and complex, editing system. Get over yourself.
FreeRange stop trolling. Professionals' complaints are valid and just because you don't work in that space (or may never) doesn't invalidate our concerns. So quit your bitching about others' bitching.
FWIW stems export is a finishing step for a mixed show heading to foreign markets, not any kind of valid path to a final mix. Get that right please, everyone.
Yes. Final Cut pro x..
Instead "bitching" I recommend many of the "pros" to try this software. It i a total new software, and yes, it is not Imovie, it is intuitive and the learning curve is faster than the old version.
So far anybody who I know and has put this Final cut to a serious test are finding out that this is really a new generation of editing, for the price, it is the best editing software on the market...and it is for pros...who are not afraid of change..
George
Dude, did Steve Job's RDF group give you another batch of kool-aid? Go ahead and explain to me how for example the color correction tools are just as good, if not better than those in the stand alone Color app, let alone in Final Cut Pro 7.
Commenting on the update with Jim Dalrymple of The Loop on Tuesday, Richard Townhill, senior director of applications marketing at Apple, said the features were added after the company received feedback from its users.
"We listened to the pros and have taken their top feature requests and put them in this update," Townhill said.
But, what about:
Apple doesn't need to listen to users.
Apple was going to provide those features anyway. All those complainers were just wasting their time.
Not to mention killing Xserve then rebadging minis as servers. What a joke. How are people supposed to stream their fantastic FCPX MotionX videos without reliable server-class hardware?
Your comment exemplifies why Apple should strip the 'pro' out of their products.