I agree. However, this building is not unique and it's certainly not modern. At least not in the sense I assume you meant "modern" (i.e. current). Not by a LONG shot. It's aesthetic is more closely aligned with the failed utopian visions of the early modernists like Le Corbusier from 100 year ago.
I don't see it. Ville Contemporaine was centered on massive structures dominating the sky line. While the structure here is massive, it really only looks that way from the air.
Sure there is glass and steel, but that is contemporary architecture, it is in no way unusual today. The curved glass is unique, but hardly Corbusier. If you meant the green spaces, that is an imoortant piece of any large scale project today. You can not get permit to build anything larger than a duplex without a significant green space plan.
Actually, it's part MY money -- the money belongs to the shareholders...
The new campus itself is fine -- I think others are correct that it will be a modern classic. From the air, it's a sort of ugly to me, but from the side views, I like it.
The only concern I have is to make sure that Apple is spending money in the places that have the highest return.
I am going to play a critic for a minute and I'm going to critique Paul Goldberger's style.
One first notices that he's bald. He really needs to lose whatever hair he has left on the left and right side above his ears. It is not a modern style at all and sporting something that makes somebody look old is reminiscent of an outdated sense of fashion and it is no longer appropriate in this current century. I find this most troubling, and not to mention, a little bit scary.
For perfect symmetry to be achieved, he needs to go with the clean look and shave everything off. That would produce much smoother, cleaner and purer lines and it would also be more harmonious with his surroundings and with nature. His current style is quite similar to what a 16 century monk would sport on their heads. It is simply put, not aesthetically pleasing and I find it to be a follicle disaster of enormous proportions.
I know this is a joke but I couldn't agree more! As someone who lost a lot of hair in their mid 20's I started buzzing it all off. I hate to see older guys hold onto those scraps of hair.
I think the design is horrible and I don't think Steve is in his right mind. Surgeries, medication, chemotherapy all take their toll on the mind's chemistry.
"It?s said that Steve Jobs considers this building to be a key part of his legacy, which would be unfortunate, because it would mean that his last contribution to his company might well be his least meaningful."
Well, Paul, being that you are a guy who at one time won a Pulitzer for your critiques (the same year the Mac was introduced coincidentally), I'd have to say it's unfortunate that this article is part of your legacy because it seems to be your least meaningful.
I think the design is horrible and I don't think Steve is in his right mind. Surgeries, medication, chemotherapy all take their toll on the mind's chemistry.
... and Foster is a hack who just builds whatever he's told to build?
[not to mention that on Steve's worst day he probably functions much better than any of us (you for sure) on our best days)
I don't care too much about the architectural critics, but I was interested in the part about Apple supplying their own electric--using the city grid only as back-up. I don't remember reading about this before...
Anyone know how they are doing this? Is this common?
I think the design is horrible and I don't think Steve is in his right mind. Surgeries, medication, chemotherapy all take their toll on the mind's chemistry.
I think the design is horrible and I don't think Steve is in his right mind. Surgeries, medication, chemotherapy all take their toll on the mind's chemistry.
Yeah, and you sound like a bit of a moron- no offense. Apple is one of the richest companies on the planet- you think it's just SJ running around doing whatever the fuck he wants, without the vetting of dozens, if not hundreds of experts along the way? You don't think every aspect of this building has been looked at by experts in their fields, and will continue to be considered with a fine tooth comb? Again, your post, and those similar to yours, are simply moronic in their childish assumptions and naivity.
I don't care too much about the architectural critics, but I was interested in the part about Apple supplying their own electric--using the city grid only as back-up. I don't remember reading about this before...
Anyone know how they are doing this? Is this common?
They said natural gas. Some have speculated Bloom Energy may be involved.
I know this is a joke but I couldn't agree more! As someone who lost a lot of hair in their mid 20's I started buzzing it all off. I hate to see older guys hold onto those scraps of hair.
You're right about that. My intent wasn't to make fun of any bald people. I am thinning myself on the top.
And why should anyone care what this idiot "Architecture Critic" has to say about anything?? You guys on this site need to do a reality check. People like this bring NOTHING to the party. What has he created? What has he built from scratch? Who has he employees?
NOTHING, NOTHING and NOBODY!
This is still America. How many of you have bothered picking up a copy of our constitution and read it? If you haven't please do so. If Apple decides it wants to build a freaking space ship and put the first store on Mars.... IT'S THEIR MONEY.... they can do whatever in the heck they want to with it. It's not the shareholders.... it's the company's. The CEO, board and shareholders all have input... but not some loser moron of an "Architecture Critic"..... What a freaking joke.
Critics for the New York Times are educated and not idiots. How much to you know about architecture? The constitution as far as I know says nothing about buildings shaped like donuts. All towns, cities, counties have rules regarding zoning, building sizes, environmental impact, and cultural impact. I am not saying the Apple donut is the Mc Mansion of office buildings but this critic as raised some very good points one is the financial clout the company has and its ability to get it's way.
I think the design is horrible and I don't think Steve is in his right mind. Surgeries, medication, chemotherapy all take their toll on the mind's chemistry.
In 2004 (the year you signed up for this forum) Jobs announced he had been diagnosed with cancer. Since then they have released a wide array of very successful products that have made them the highest valued publicly traded company on the planet, the highest mindshare of any company and products, and have set them up for repeated and longterm success for years to come with or without Jobs direct involvement.
Yet somehow you deem his treatment for cancer since 2004 as somehow stripping his mind of any and all sensibility because you don't like the proposed plan for the new campus that he didn't directly design as he is not an architect. You give no reasons why you think he's lost his mind. You give no reason why anyone who likes the design has also gone crackers, including the architects, upper-level Apple employees, and Cupertino officials involved in the project.
What is your basis for this accusation? Where is your reasoning as to how he can have managed Apple as a company so well but somehow been rendered mentally retarded and hoodwinked by all involved in the new campus design?
I know this is a joke but I couldn't agree more! As someone who lost a lot of hair in their mid 20's I started buzzing it all off. I hate to see older guys hold onto those scraps of hair.
making fun of someone's physical appearance is sad and is at a level of 13 year old. you should be ashamed of yourself
I think the design is horrible and I don't think Steve is in his right mind. Surgeries, medication, chemotherapy all take their toll on the mind's chemistry.
That is one of the most retarded comments ever posted here and it sounds like you could use some serious medication, because the chemistry in your mind seems to be totally out of wack. You don't have to like the design, but to somehow connect that to Steve Job's chemo? You're lucky that I'm not a mod.
making fun of someone's physical appearance is sad and is at a level of 13 year old. you should be ashamed of yourself
There is nothing wrong with making fun of people's physical appearance, it depends on the circumstances.
If somebody is born with an extra eye in the middle of their head, it would be kind of stupid and quite mean to make fun of such a person, because it's not like it was their choice and they had no say in the process. To make fun of somebody because of their skin color is also stupid and retarded, as people don't get to choose that.
But, it's perfectly ok to make fun of somebody's appearance when they make deliberate choices that aren't genetically chosen. If somebody dresses like a fool and gets horn implants in their head, they shouldn't be surprised if other people are going to stare and ridicule that freak.
Making fun of a woman with tiny breasts is also quite dumb, as that is just what nature dealt them. But it's perfectly ok to make fun of a girl who got huge, fake looking implants that are 5 sizes too big for them.
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I agree. However, this building is not unique and it's certainly not modern. At least not in the sense I assume you meant "modern" (i.e. current). Not by a LONG shot. It's aesthetic is more closely aligned with the failed utopian visions of the early modernists like Le Corbusier from 100 year ago.
I don't see it. Ville Contemporaine was centered on massive structures dominating the sky line. While the structure here is massive, it really only looks that way from the air.
Sure there is glass and steel, but that is contemporary architecture, it is in no way unusual today. The curved glass is unique, but hardly Corbusier. If you meant the green spaces, that is an imoortant piece of any large scale project today. You can not get permit to build anything larger than a duplex without a significant green space plan.
Actually, it's part MY money -- the money belongs to the shareholders...
The new campus itself is fine -- I think others are correct that it will be a modern classic. From the air, it's a sort of ugly to me, but from the side views, I like it.
The only concern I have is to make sure that Apple is spending money in the places that have the highest return.
Well then you should replace the board.
1) No one will buy the iPhone. it doesn't have a keyboard.
2) No one will buy the iPod. No wireless. Less space than a Creative Nomad. Lame.
3) No one will buy the iPad. it's jut a big iPod Touch.
4) Apple retail stores will fail.
5) Architecture critic pans Apple's 'spaceship' campus as 'troubling,' 'scary'
See a pattern?
Yes, critics are optimists
I am going to play a critic for a minute and I'm going to critique Paul Goldberger's style.
One first notices that he's bald. He really needs to lose whatever hair he has left on the left and right side above his ears. It is not a modern style at all and sporting something that makes somebody look old is reminiscent of an outdated sense of fashion and it is no longer appropriate in this current century. I find this most troubling, and not to mention, a little bit scary.
For perfect symmetry to be achieved, he needs to go with the clean look and shave everything off. That would produce much smoother, cleaner and purer lines and it would also be more harmonious with his surroundings and with nature. His current style is quite similar to what a 16 century monk would sport on their heads. It is simply put, not aesthetically pleasing and I find it to be a follicle disaster of enormous proportions.
I know this is a joke but I couldn't agree more! As someone who lost a lot of hair in their mid 20's I started buzzing it all off. I hate to see older guys hold onto those scraps of hair.
Well, Paul, being that you are a guy who at one time won a Pulitzer for your critiques (the same year the Mac was introduced coincidentally), I'd have to say it's unfortunate that this article is part of your legacy because it seems to be your least meaningful.
I think the design is horrible and I don't think Steve is in his right mind. Surgeries, medication, chemotherapy all take their toll on the mind's chemistry.
... and Foster is a hack who just builds whatever he's told to build?
[not to mention that on Steve's worst day he probably functions much better than any of us (you for sure) on our best days)
Anyone know how they are doing this? Is this common?
I think the design is horrible and I don't think Steve is in his right mind. Surgeries, medication, chemotherapy all take their toll on the mind's chemistry.
I think the design is horrible and I don't think Steve is in his right mind. Surgeries, medication, chemotherapy all take their toll on the mind's chemistry.
Yeah, and you sound like a bit of a moron- no offense. Apple is one of the richest companies on the planet- you think it's just SJ running around doing whatever the fuck he wants, without the vetting of dozens, if not hundreds of experts along the way? You don't think every aspect of this building has been looked at by experts in their fields, and will continue to be considered with a fine tooth comb? Again, your post, and those similar to yours, are simply moronic in their childish assumptions and naivity.
I don't care too much about the architectural critics, but I was interested in the part about Apple supplying their own electric--using the city grid only as back-up. I don't remember reading about this before...
Anyone know how they are doing this? Is this common?
They said natural gas. Some have speculated Bloom Energy may be involved.
Feeding trolls today AppleInsider?
Generating ad revenue. Just count the clicks on this article...
I know this is a joke but I couldn't agree more! As someone who lost a lot of hair in their mid 20's I started buzzing it all off. I hate to see older guys hold onto those scraps of hair.
You're right about that. My intent wasn't to make fun of any bald people. I am thinning myself on the top.
And why should anyone care what this idiot "Architecture Critic" has to say about anything?? You guys on this site need to do a reality check. People like this bring NOTHING to the party. What has he created? What has he built from scratch? Who has he employees?
NOTHING, NOTHING and NOBODY!
This is still America. How many of you have bothered picking up a copy of our constitution and read it? If you haven't please do so. If Apple decides it wants to build a freaking space ship and put the first store on Mars.... IT'S THEIR MONEY.... they can do whatever in the heck they want to with it. It's not the shareholders.... it's the company's. The CEO, board and shareholders all have input... but not some loser moron of an "Architecture Critic"..... What a freaking joke.
Critics for the New York Times are educated and not idiots. How much to you know about architecture? The constitution as far as I know says nothing about buildings shaped like donuts. All towns, cities, counties have rules regarding zoning, building sizes, environmental impact, and cultural impact. I am not saying the Apple donut is the Mc Mansion of office buildings but this critic as raised some very good points one is the financial clout the company has and its ability to get it's way.
I think the design is horrible and I don't think Steve is in his right mind. Surgeries, medication, chemotherapy all take their toll on the mind's chemistry.
In 2004 (the year you signed up for this forum) Jobs announced he had been diagnosed with cancer. Since then they have released a wide array of very successful products that have made them the highest valued publicly traded company on the planet, the highest mindshare of any company and products, and have set them up for repeated and longterm success for years to come with or without Jobs direct involvement.
Yet somehow you deem his treatment for cancer since 2004 as somehow stripping his mind of any and all sensibility because you don't like the proposed plan for the new campus that he didn't directly design as he is not an architect. You give no reasons why you think he's lost his mind. You give no reason why anyone who likes the design has also gone crackers, including the architects, upper-level Apple employees, and Cupertino officials involved in the project.
What is your basis for this accusation? Where is your reasoning as to how he can have managed Apple as a company so well but somehow been rendered mentally retarded and hoodwinked by all involved in the new campus design?
I know this is a joke but I couldn't agree more! As someone who lost a lot of hair in their mid 20's I started buzzing it all off. I hate to see older guys hold onto those scraps of hair.
making fun of someone's physical appearance is sad and is at a level of 13 year old. you should be ashamed of yourself
I think the design is horrible and I don't think Steve is in his right mind. Surgeries, medication, chemotherapy all take their toll on the mind's chemistry.
That is one of the most retarded comments ever posted here and it sounds like you could use some serious medication, because the chemistry in your mind seems to be totally out of wack. You don't have to like the design, but to somehow connect that to Steve Job's chemo? You're lucky that I'm not a mod.
making fun of someone's physical appearance is sad and is at a level of 13 year old. you should be ashamed of yourself
There is nothing wrong with making fun of people's physical appearance, it depends on the circumstances.
If somebody is born with an extra eye in the middle of their head, it would be kind of stupid and quite mean to make fun of such a person, because it's not like it was their choice and they had no say in the process. To make fun of somebody because of their skin color is also stupid and retarded, as people don't get to choose that.
But, it's perfectly ok to make fun of somebody's appearance when they make deliberate choices that aren't genetically chosen. If somebody dresses like a fool and gets horn implants in their head, they shouldn't be surprised if other people are going to stare and ridicule that freak.
Making fun of a woman with tiny breasts is also quite dumb, as that is just what nature dealt them. But it's perfectly ok to make fun of a girl who got huge, fake looking implants that are 5 sizes too big for them.
Do you see the difference?