Seems like Apple's grapple on secrecy keeps breaking more and more with every new generation which is a good thing for the consumer. One day the Apple will have to tear down for good the Jobs paranoia wall.
No not at all- I'd rather not be starting a new contract w AT&T so late past my eligible renewal date.
Yes, but that's what I don't get. I'm in the same situation. Nothing has changed, same service, same price, phone still works fine, I can wait a few months.
Yes, but that's what I don't get. I'm in the same situation. Nothing has changed, same service, same price, phone still works fine, I can wait a few months.
You're not thinking ahead- you'll be locked into a new contract now until Oct2013.
I guess these cases don't cost that much for AT&T, Case-Mate, and others to take the risk. There are good odds that they'll have to throw these cases into the dumpster.
Are you insane? No, they didn't have to do that. Apple wouldn't have to tell them squat. Apple does all the testing themselves.
Not to sure about that. Earlier models were field tested by AT&T. This is pretty much a carrier requirement. No carrier in the world is going to just accept a vendor's word for testing.
Thandu is one of about 200 field technicians who have been secretly testing the iPhone and looking for technical glitches for more than 10 weeks and counting. AT&T routinely tests new devices, but the iPhone has been different, Thandu says. The technicians have logged more than 10,000 hours on the phone, including more than 5,000 hours of voice calls and near 5 gigabytes of data usage. Most phones, he says, get about half that much test time.
AT&T's scrutiny is understandable. The iPhone is shaping up to be the must-have cellphone of the year, maybe the decade if it follows in iPod's footsteps. AT&T has exclusive U.S. distribution rights for five years and hopes to use the device to lure new customers.
To win at that, however, the iPhone must live up to its hype. That's where Thandu and his crew come into play. "My job is to make sure the devices we sell meet the high bars we set for them, in terms of technical requirements and test specifications," he says.
Doing dry runs with the world's most anticipated cellphone has been challenging. Tests had to be done in places frequented by wireless users. Under strict orders to keep the phone under wraps, technicians had to hide or disguise the phone when in public, Thandu says.
The disguises took many forms: an iPod "sock" was sometimes slipped over the iPhone. Other times, he says, testers kept the device inside a newspaper or pants pocket and used a wireless headset.
For the actual testing, technicians frequented all the places where consumers go: office buildings, subway platforms, stairwells, elevators, crowded bars, sprawling suburban malls and congested city streets. They also showed up incognito at Apple and AT&T stores
Not to sure about that. Earlier models were field tested by AT&T. This is pretty much a carrier requirement. No carrier in the world is going to just accept a vendor's word for testing.
Doesn't mean Apple has to show anyone anything. AT&T agreed to the first iPhone without seeing it.
Sure, but that doesn't involve giving the devices to the carriers.
AT&t upgraded a voicemail system they used for other phones as well, they didn't pay the entire R&D and allow a phone on their network sight unseen
AT&T has tens of thousands of towers in different states of software versions. someone has to go out and test on a good percentage of them. and this version the radio is going to be from qualcomm and not crapfineon like the last 4 versions
the packaging looks suspicious and generic. I wouldn't mind seeing like a smart cover for the iphone if it does indeed have a metal back.
When the iPad 2 first debuted I thought that would be a good idea, but my iPad's SmartCover doesn't always stay one when it's in my computer bag getting jostled so I have a hard time thinking it would fair any better in my front pocket. Plus, with the way I use my iPhone I'd think it would get in the way.
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you still have to work out the subsidy agreement and a lot of other business details.
Doesn't mean Apple has to show anyone anything. AT&T agreed to the first iPhone without seeing it.
and yes, apple does have to certify their product on the carriers' networks like everyone else
Sure, but that doesn't involve giving the devices to the carriers.
which is a good thing for the consumer.
Not really.
One day the Apple will have to tear down for good the Jobs paranoia wall.
Not really.
I guess your contract didn't expire 4 months ago and weren't stuck in limbo then waiting.and waiting......
I guess your contract didn't expire 4 months ago and weren't stuck in limbo then waiting.and waiting......
What's the big deal about your contract expiring? Did your previous phone stop working?
What's the big deal about your contract expiring? Did your previous phone stop working?
No not at all- I'd rather not be starting a new contract w AT&T so late past my eligible renewal date.
No not at all- I'd rather not be starting a new contract w AT&T so late past my eligible renewal date.
Yes, but that's what I don't get. I'm in the same situation. Nothing has changed, same service, same price, phone still works fine, I can wait a few months.
Yes, but that's what I don't get. I'm in the same situation. Nothing has changed, same service, same price, phone still works fine, I can wait a few months.
You're not thinking ahead- you'll be locked into a new contract now until Oct2013.
Are you insane? No, they didn't have to do that. Apple wouldn't have to tell them squat. Apple does all the testing themselves.
Not to sure about that. Earlier models were field tested by AT&T. This is pretty much a carrier requirement. No carrier in the world is going to just accept a vendor's word for testing.
circa 2007: http://www.usatoday.com/tech/wireles...e-launch_N.htm
Thandu is one of about 200 field technicians who have been secretly testing the iPhone and looking for technical glitches for more than 10 weeks and counting. AT&T routinely tests new devices, but the iPhone has been different, Thandu says. The technicians have logged more than 10,000 hours on the phone, including more than 5,000 hours of voice calls and near 5 gigabytes of data usage. Most phones, he says, get about half that much test time.
AT&T's scrutiny is understandable. The iPhone is shaping up to be the must-have cellphone of the year, maybe the decade if it follows in iPod's footsteps. AT&T has exclusive U.S. distribution rights for five years and hopes to use the device to lure new customers.
To win at that, however, the iPhone must live up to its hype. That's where Thandu and his crew come into play. "My job is to make sure the devices we sell meet the high bars we set for them, in terms of technical requirements and test specifications," he says.
Doing dry runs with the world's most anticipated cellphone has been challenging. Tests had to be done in places frequented by wireless users. Under strict orders to keep the phone under wraps, technicians had to hide or disguise the phone when in public, Thandu says.
The disguises took many forms: an iPod "sock" was sometimes slipped over the iPhone. Other times, he says, testers kept the device inside a newspaper or pants pocket and used a wireless headset.
For the actual testing, technicians frequented all the places where consumers go: office buildings, subway platforms, stairwells, elevators, crowded bars, sprawling suburban malls and congested city streets. They also showed up incognito at Apple and AT&T stores
Not to sure about that. Earlier models were field tested by AT&T. This is pretty much a carrier requirement. No carrier in the world is going to just accept a vendor's word for testing.
circa 2007: http://www.usatoday.com/tech/wireles...e-launch_N.htm
200 technicians used up 5gb of data over 10 weeks.... yet today everyone complains about having a gig or two for themselves per month!
Doesn't mean Apple has to show anyone anything. AT&T agreed to the first iPhone without seeing it.
Sure, but that doesn't involve giving the devices to the carriers.
AT&t upgraded a voicemail system they used for other phones as well, they didn't pay the entire R&D and allow a phone on their network sight unseen
AT&T has tens of thousands of towers in different states of software versions. someone has to go out and test on a good percentage of them. and this version the radio is going to be from qualcomm and not crapfineon like the last 4 versions
the packaging looks suspicious and generic. I wouldn't mind seeing like a smart cover for the iphone if it does indeed have a metal back.
When the iPad 2 first debuted I thought that would be a good idea, but my iPad's SmartCover doesn't always stay one when it's in my computer bag getting jostled so I have a hard time thinking it would fair any better in my front pocket. Plus, with the way I use my iPhone I'd think it would get in the way.
You're not thinking ahead- you'll be locked into a new contract now until Oct2013.
Yes, but - sorry - I must be slow today, as well as not thinking head. Why is that bad?