Which plan gets that low? It's possible for one line as part of a family plan, but for individual? Maybe with the 200 meg data plan and no texts at all on ATT (their text options are unlimited for $20 or none at all), but I doubt many buying an iPhone would opt for a plan that barely lets them use it.
I was looking at the plans last night after reading another thread about the full price unlocked iPhone.
AT&T has a 10 cents a minute plan. So if you can get by with 150 minutes, for $15, add a small data plan for $15 and a txt plan for $5, that comes out to $35 a month. There is one question: They says "on qualified smartphones". I'm not sure if iPhone qualifies.
Man, if they do rollover, free nights and weekends, no cost in-network, it might make sense to move my parents to something like that. With iOS 5 iMessage to take care of txt usage and them talking mainly on the same wireless network to family and friends, they are capped on rollover minutes. Their data usage is my only.
Just a head up people Sprint has a LOT of surcharges. They may seem "cheaper", but $20 in taxes and $20 in surcharges is too much WITH an employee discoutn.
Man, if they do rollover, free nights and weekends, no cost in-network, it might make sense to move my parents to something like that. .
No it doesn't include any of that it is just 10 cents a minute, all the time. But some people don't even need 150 minutes. That was just an estimate. It could be lower depending on your usage. 100 megs of data is not much but if you are on wireless most of the time it might be ok. 5 dollars a month for 100 messages could be sufficient for parents. Keep in mind you have to buy a full price unlocked phone.
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Which plan gets that low? It's possible for one line as part of a family plan, but for individual? Maybe with the 200 meg data plan and no texts at all on ATT (their text options are unlimited for $20 or none at all), but I doubt many buying an iPhone would opt for a plan that barely lets them use it.
450mins\t $40
250 MB Data\t$15
Unlimited\ttxt $20
=$75
Those include rollover and unlimited nights/weekend/holidays, & in-network. So after Thuh Guvnuh gets its piece perhaps my $80 was low but by Price is Right rules ( ) I'm pretty close. If it's a couple with a family plan, the price goes down a good deal per handset.
I threw in that unlimited txt plan @ $25 instead of the 1500 @ $15 because the latter isn't offered anymore. Didn't mean to sound like I was quibbling - sorry. Main point is that people are attracted to seeing the same size bill each month so the subsidized phones fit. Riding out those spikes can be painful.
Those include rollover and unlimited nights/weekend/holidays, & in-network. So after Thuh Guvnuh gets its piece perhaps my $80 was low but by Price is Right rules ( ) I'm pretty close. If it's a couple with a family plan, the price goes down a good deal per handset.
I threw in that unlimited txt plan @ $25 instead of the 1500 @ $15 because the latter isn't offered anymore. Didn't mean to sound like I was quibbling - sorry. Main point is that people are attracted to seeing the same size bill each month so the subsidized phones fit. Riding out those spikes can be painful.
It seems the people saying "meh" on the 4S were speaking in terms of wow factor...granted the late great Mr. Jobs had a way about him that could make anything seem amazing so his not being there could've resulted in this general lack of awe.
I personally, refreshing the live blogs of about 4 sites, was unimpressed by the keynote, and the physical design of the device not changing due to all the hype I believed (though the 4's design is, in a word, beautiful).
The most fascinating thing about the entire keynote was Siri IMO....and that game's graphics.
There were a few idiots who said it wouldn't sell well (were they on AI? I didn't really venture in the iPhone 4S announcement thread) but the overall consensus was "meh but it'll sell."
I was looking at the plans last night after reading another thread about the full price unlocked iPhone.
AT&T has a 10 cents a minute plan. So if you can get by with 150 minutes, for $15, add a small data plan for $15 and a txt plan for $5, that comes out to $35 a month. There is one question: They say "on qualified smartphones". I'm not sure if iPhone qualifies.
Interesting idea - looks like iPhones aren't supported but people have got some models to work. Since Apple is selling some unlocked versions it would be nice to be able to find out what options are available for those phones.
This persistent disconnect between the reality of consumers' embrace of Apple products and the fantasy of certain tech pundits who consistently diss Apple's new products is really extraordinary. At what point are these guys going to finally look themselves in the mirror and ask "how have I become so out of touch with reality and what must I do to understand real-world consumers?"
My guess is that for many of them, that point will never come. They will just become increasingly bitter, focusing their efforts to appeal to a shrinking audience of disgruntled IT workers and aging PC DIYers who are also totally out of touch with reality. Losers.
The cheapest ATT plan with texts is $900 per year, with surcharges and taxes it's likely over $1k. If you go without texts that will get you lower.
I suspect many people already have phones on family plans. This makes the increment to go to an iPhone the cost of the phone up front, and the data plan. $15*12 = $180 to get an iPhone 3GS if it is replacing an existing phone in a family plan, and you can get by with the smallest data plan.
These are the people who the 3GS will appeal to...
Everybody used to say that nobody would buy it. But now everybody is buying it, and nobody is saying it.
Well, for the record, I was one person on here saying that in the long run it wouldn't matter whether they called the phone 4S or 5, and/or whether the form factor changed. My reasoning was based on the (still) insatiable demand for the 3GS and the 4 (which, IMO, is the sexiest piece of gear on the face of the planet, so why mess with it).
Most people here disagreed with me and said that it would be a major mistake if the next iPhone was not the mythical "iPhone 5" and had a significant change to the form factor. Now, we see.
I was looking at the plans last night after reading another thread about the full price unlocked iPhone.
AT&T has a 10 cents a minute plan. So if you can get by with 150 minutes, for $15, add a small data plan for $15 and a txt plan for $5, that comes out to $35 a month. There is one question: They say "on qualified smartphones". I'm not sure if iPhone qualifies.
The only thing that doesn't work is Visual Voicemail.
GoPhone is not really price competitive if your data needs are greater than 300MB per month.
Concerning the GoPhone data packages, the 100MB package at $15 is actually the poorest value. Apparently, unused GoPhone data will rollover if you buy another data package before the 30 days are up. You should consider buying the 500MB package at $25, then refreshing with a $5 plan. You'll get over twice as much data (510MB vs. 200MB) over two months at the same monthly cost of $15. By doing it this way, you're actually getting more data (255MB per month) on GoPhone versus the same $15 (250MB) on the cheapest contract data plan.
I've estimated my own usage and I think I'll end up averaging $15-18 per month with GoPhone, mostly in data charges. I use Google Voice, so the vast majority of daytime calls actually ring my work phone and texting is free. You can use the Talkatone app for free outgoing Google Voice calls over WiFi.
By my calculations, if I go with a factory unlocked iPhone plus GoPhone prepaid service, the break even point is eleven months versus the cheapest AT&T contract plan (at $55/mo) and a subsidized phone (which has an activation charge).
I agree, but the thIng is that the tech writers have to be contrary and if there is no natural conflict they must make it up. How boring would it be if all journalists and commentators agreed? It is in their nature to point out that we are all wrong and that they have the solution. The more dominant the leader the more dissenting the voices. Besides, us ApPle folks love being the underdog, don't we? It's a much more fun to be.
good points -- there is definitely a return to click-bait articles.
This same disconnect occurred for Pixar movies. Just prior to each new release, the "experts" would remind us all that Pixar was bound to produce a dud, as the "law of reversion to mean" is unbreakable.
What they failed to consider was that the law of reversion to mean doesn't actually exist.
Mean reversion is an empirically documented phenomenon. But in any given case, it's hard to know whether extraordinary success is due to random chance or if it "real". To make that determination requires deeper analysis and understanding -- two things that are lacking among lazy pundits. To follow the Pixar example, anyone who just sits in their office looking at box office returns might have assumed that Toy Story was an outlier. But anyone who, you know, actually saw the frickin' movie and has anything resembling a human soul would have realized that there's something genuinely special about the people who could make such a film, and would have expected them to repeat the success.
*Not all new tricks may be applicable to all old dogs. Some old dogs might be slower at new tricks than others. Inability of old dogs to perform new tricks is not the responsibility of the trick bearers. New tricks may make old dogs perform other, unanticipated actions. All nonstandard behavior by old dogs is handled at the owner's expense. All right reserved. Offer void in Utah.
Just a head up people Sprint has a LOT of surcharges. They may seem "cheaper", but $20 in taxes and $20 in surcharges is too much WITH an employee discoutn.
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Probably closer to $80 a month
Which plan gets that low? It's possible for one line as part of a family plan, but for individual? Maybe with the 200 meg data plan and no texts at all on ATT (their text options are unlimited for $20 or none at all), but I doubt many buying an iPhone would opt for a plan that barely lets them use it.
I was looking at the plans last night after reading another thread about the full price unlocked iPhone.
AT&T has a 10 cents a minute plan. So if you can get by with 150 minutes, for $15, add a small data plan for $15 and a txt plan for $5, that comes out to $35 a month. There is one question: They says "on qualified smartphones". I'm not sure if iPhone qualifies.
Man, if they do rollover, free nights and weekends, no cost in-network, it might make sense to move my parents to something like that. With iOS 5 iMessage to take care of txt usage and them talking mainly on the same wireless network to family and friends, they are capped on rollover minutes. Their data usage is my only.
Time to do some research. Thanks for the tip.
Man, if they do rollover, free nights and weekends, no cost in-network, it might make sense to move my parents to something like that. .
No it doesn't include any of that it is just 10 cents a minute, all the time. But some people don't even need 150 minutes. That was just an estimate. It could be lower depending on your usage. 100 megs of data is not much but if you are on wireless most of the time it might be ok. 5 dollars a month for 100 messages could be sufficient for parents. Keep in mind you have to buy a full price unlocked phone.
*Not all new tricks may be applicable to all old dogs. Some old dogs might be slower at new tricks than others. Inability of old dogs to perform new tricks is not the responsibility of the trick bearers. New tricks may make old dogs perform other, unanticipated actions. All nonstandard behavior by old dogs is handled at the owner's expense. All right reserved. Offer void in Utah.
hahahahhahahahaha
Which plan gets that low? It's possible for one line as part of a family plan, but for individual? Maybe with the 200 meg data plan and no texts at all on ATT (their text options are unlimited for $20 or none at all), but I doubt many buying an iPhone would opt for a plan that barely lets them use it.
450mins\t $40
250 MB Data\t$15
Unlimited\ttxt $20
=$75
Those include rollover and unlimited nights/weekend/holidays, & in-network. So after Thuh Guvnuh gets its piece perhaps my $80 was low but by Price is Right rules (
I threw in that unlimited txt plan @ $25 instead of the 1500 @ $15 because the latter isn't offered anymore. Didn't mean to sound like I was quibbling - sorry. Main point is that people are attracted to seeing the same size bill each month so the subsidized phones fit. Riding out those spikes can be painful.
450mins\t $40
250 MB Data\t$15
Unlimited\ttxt $20
=$75
Those include rollover and unlimited nights/weekend/holidays, & in-network. So after Thuh Guvnuh gets its piece perhaps my $80 was low but by Price is Right rules (
I threw in that unlimited txt plan @ $25 instead of the 1500 @ $15 because the latter isn't offered anymore. Didn't mean to sound like I was quibbling - sorry. Main point is that people are attracted to seeing the same size bill each month so the subsidized phones fit. Riding out those spikes can be painful.
I thought ul text was $30....
It seems the people saying "meh" on the 4S were speaking in terms of wow factor...granted the late great Mr. Jobs had a way about him that could make anything seem amazing so his not being there could've resulted in this general lack of awe.
I personally, refreshing the live blogs of about 4 sites, was unimpressed by the keynote, and the physical design of the device not changing due to all the hype I believed (though the 4's design is, in a word, beautiful).
The most fascinating thing about the entire keynote was Siri IMO....and that game's graphics.
There were a few idiots who said it wouldn't sell well (were they on AI? I didn't really venture in the iPhone 4S announcement thread) but the overall consensus was "meh but it'll sell."
No, the BOTTOM of the line plan with an iPhone is more than $1,000 per year.
Not in my universe.
I was looking at the plans last night after reading another thread about the full price unlocked iPhone.
AT&T has a 10 cents a minute plan. So if you can get by with 150 minutes, for $15, add a small data plan for $15 and a txt plan for $5, that comes out to $35 a month. There is one question: They say "on qualified smartphones". I'm not sure if iPhone qualifies.
Interesting idea - looks like iPhones aren't supported but people have got some models to work. Since Apple is selling some unlocked versions it would be nice to be able to find out what options are available for those phones.
Not in my universe.
The cheapest ATT plan with texts is $900 per year, with surcharges and taxes it's likely over $1k. If you go without texts that will get you lower.
This persistent disconnect between the reality of consumers' embrace of Apple products and the fantasy of certain tech pundits who consistently diss Apple's new products is really extraordinary. At what point are these guys going to finally look themselves in the mirror and ask "how have I become so out of touch with reality and what must I do to understand real-world consumers?"
My guess is that for many of them, that point will never come. They will just become increasingly bitter, focusing their efforts to appeal to a shrinking audience of disgruntled IT workers and aging PC DIYers who are also totally out of touch with reality. Losers.
Right On! They will never learn !
The cheapest ATT plan with texts is $900 per year, with surcharges and taxes it's likely over $1k. If you go without texts that will get you lower.
I suspect many people already have phones on family plans. This makes the increment to go to an iPhone the cost of the phone up front, and the data plan. $15*12 = $180 to get an iPhone 3GS if it is replacing an existing phone in a family plan, and you can get by with the smallest data plan.
These are the people who the 3GS will appeal to...
Everybody used to say that nobody would buy it. But now everybody is buying it, and nobody is saying it.
Well, for the record, I was one person on here saying that in the long run it wouldn't matter whether they called the phone 4S or 5, and/or whether the form factor changed. My reasoning was based on the (still) insatiable demand for the 3GS and the 4 (which, IMO, is the sexiest piece of gear on the face of the planet, so why mess with it).
Most people here disagreed with me and said that it would be a major mistake if the next iPhone was not the mythical "iPhone 5" and had a significant change to the form factor. Now, we see.
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I was looking at the plans last night after reading another thread about the full price unlocked iPhone.
AT&T has a 10 cents a minute plan. So if you can get by with 150 minutes, for $15, add a small data plan for $15 and a txt plan for $5, that comes out to $35 a month. There is one question: They say "on qualified smartphones". I'm not sure if iPhone qualifies.
Yeah, the GoPhone SIM will work in the iPhone.
Instructions on how to do it.
The only thing that doesn't work is Visual Voicemail.
GoPhone is not really price competitive if your data needs are greater than 300MB per month.
Concerning the GoPhone data packages, the 100MB package at $15 is actually the poorest value. Apparently, unused GoPhone data will rollover if you buy another data package before the 30 days are up. You should consider buying the 500MB package at $25, then refreshing with a $5 plan. You'll get over twice as much data (510MB vs. 200MB) over two months at the same monthly cost of $15. By doing it this way, you're actually getting more data (255MB per month) on GoPhone versus the same $15 (250MB) on the cheapest contract data plan.
I've estimated my own usage and I think I'll end up averaging $15-18 per month with GoPhone, mostly in data charges. I use Google Voice, so the vast majority of daytime calls actually ring my work phone and texting is free. You can use the Talkatone app for free outgoing Google Voice calls over WiFi.
By my calculations, if I go with a factory unlocked iPhone plus GoPhone prepaid service, the break even point is eleven months versus the cheapest AT&T contract plan (at $55/mo) and a subsidized phone (which has an activation charge).
I agree, but the thIng is that the tech writers have to be contrary and if there is no natural conflict they must make it up. How boring would it be if all journalists and commentators agreed? It is in their nature to point out that we are all wrong and that they have the solution. The more dominant the leader the more dissenting the voices. Besides, us ApPle folks love being the underdog, don't we? It's a much more fun to be.
good points -- there is definitely a return to click-bait articles.
This same disconnect occurred for Pixar movies. Just prior to each new release, the "experts" would remind us all that Pixar was bound to produce a dud, as the "law of reversion to mean" is unbreakable.
What they failed to consider was that the law of reversion to mean doesn't actually exist.
Mean reversion is an empirically documented phenomenon. But in any given case, it's hard to know whether extraordinary success is due to random chance or if it "real". To make that determination requires deeper analysis and understanding -- two things that are lacking among lazy pundits. To follow the Pixar example, anyone who just sits in their office looking at box office returns might have assumed that Toy Story was an outlier. But anyone who, you know, actually saw the frickin' movie and has anything resembling a human soul would have realized that there's something genuinely special about the people who could make such a film, and would have expected them to repeat the success.
*Not all new tricks may be applicable to all old dogs. Some old dogs might be slower at new tricks than others. Inability of old dogs to perform new tricks is not the responsibility of the trick bearers. New tricks may make old dogs perform other, unanticipated actions. All nonstandard behavior by old dogs is handled at the owner's expense. All right reserved. Offer void in Utah.
LOL too awesome.
Just a head up people Sprint has a LOT of surcharges. They may seem "cheaper", but $20 in taxes and $20 in surcharges is too much WITH an employee discoutn.
Wouldn't taxes be the same regardless of carrier?