Apple's iPhone 4S, Mac mini & MacBook Air are 'Bluetooth Smart Ready'

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  • Reply 21 of 46
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    Originally Posted by stynkfysh View Post


    iPhone 4S doesn't work well with my Toyota factory installed bluetooth handsfree system. There is usually a lot of static or people can't here me. iPhone 4 works fine. May be bluetooth smart ready, but its not Toyota bluetooth car readly like the iPhone 4 was.



    There are all kinds of network connectivity and Bluetooth issues that I've had with 10.7.2, and iOS5. The iPhone doesn't join known networks well, my MBA loses network connectivity every time I shut the lid (total pain; I have to manually reconnect every time), and I totally lost Bluetooth connectivity with my Magic Mouse and Apple Trackpad (and had to go through multiple steps to get it back on -- there are huge threads about this in Apple Support).



    Overall, I've been very unimpressed by the recent suite of software updates. A pain in the a**.
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  • Reply 22 of 46
    eightzeroeightzero Posts: 3,212member
    Steve would have never stood for this.
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  • Reply 23 of 46
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    Originally Posted by eightzero View Post


    Steve would have never stood for this.



    Apple isn't advertising their Bluetooth this way, so that's completely moot.
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  • Reply 24 of 46
    Seems like it's no revolution at all, only new feature is efficiency... really more of one of the main problems solved rather than anything worthy of mention.
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  • Reply 25 of 46
    macrrmacrr Posts: 488member
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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


    Blu-ray.





    Actually- Apple worked with BDA in establishing the format. most likely to help kill off DVD-HD or whatever it was Msft was backing. Apple just doesn't ship blu-ray optical drives with their devices- because by the time it was ready- it was too expensive to put in without jacking up the price at a time when people were already dismissive of macs due to perceived costs over a msft PC.



    And besides- who didn't see the writing on the wall that digital downloads were going to be where the puck was going- so apple never bothered. You could, and can, get a third party Blu-ray drive.





    Physical media sucks anyways- drains power, loud, gets damaged. And the quality isn't so much better- and will become equivalent in time.





    But back to this bluetooth debacle.. what a way to convolute a product that was championed for it's simplicity in connectivity. I guess some jackass couldn't help themselves and decided to market it with a flow chart of compatibility. SNORE.
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  • Reply 26 of 46
    running an iphone 4 with ios 5 , no problems with hands free in my audi, or any other problems. the only thing I will say is that battery life does seem to be less. I wish in my audi that you could stream music to the car with bluetooth, will bluetooth smart or smart ready be able to support that?
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  • Reply 27 of 46
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    Originally Posted by MacRR View Post


    Actually- Apple worked with BDA in establishing the format. most likely to help kill off DVD-HD or whatever it was Msft was backing.



    No, that wasn't their purpose.



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    Apple just doesn't ship blu-ray… …because… …it was too expensive…



    No, that's not the reason.



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    …who didn't see the writing on the wall that digital downloads were going to be where the puck was going…



    Every single other company on the planet, and every single other company on the planet STILL doesn't believe it. Again, not the reason.



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    Physical media sucks anyways- drains power, loud, gets damaged. And the quality isn't so much better- and will become equivalent in time.



    Yep, absolutely. But wasn't the reason Apple doesn't ship Blu-ray.



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    But back to this bluetooth debacle.. what a way to convolute a product that was championed for it's simplicity in connectivity. I guess some jackass couldn't help themselves and decided to market it with a flow chart of compatibility. SNORE.



    Yep. It's a travesty.
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  • Reply 28 of 46
    slurpyslurpy Posts: 5,398member
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    Originally Posted by KPOM View Post


    Now if only the Bluetooth Smart Ready iPhone 4S could connect to the Bluetooth Smart Ready MacBook Air through any of the Bluetooth standards. I know, Apple prefers we sync through iCloud or even iTunes Wi-Fi now, but I recall being able to route sound from a Nokia phone to a PC or Mac. Without NFC, Bluetooth would also be a good way for two iPhones to share contacts, etc.



    You know what would be cool? If iOS devices showed up in airdrop in Lion, for easy transfer of photos, etc.
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  • Reply 29 of 46
    slurpyslurpy Posts: 5,398member
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    Originally Posted by eightzero View Post


    Steve would have never stood for this.



    Unfortunately, he's dead, and has no say anymore in Apple's future. I just hope his DNA was embedded enough in the company so that they don't stray from their root, and are still willing and eager to make massive gambles and big risks that disrupt, blow away, and move us forward.
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  • Reply 30 of 46
    Oh...! And my products all say "Blueteeth". Darn it!
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  • Reply 31 of 46
    So... insert BlueTooth 4 into an iPod Shuffle so it can connect to your phone (or computer etc)

    Then add a headset with microphone.



    Now just click the headset button and speak to siri - read texts, send texts, set up appointments....



    Of course..... you could just plug your headset directly into the iPhone I guess....
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  • Reply 32 of 46
    boredumbboredumb Posts: 1,418member
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    Originally Posted by jd_in_sb View Post


    Branding confusion at its worst. Do I have smart or smart-ready? Or do I have 4.0? And what will they call future generations of Bluetooth - "really smart?" "even smarter?"



    My money's on, "Bluetooth Brilliant"...
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  • Reply 33 of 46
    conradjoeconradjoe Posts: 1,887member
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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


    For the love of humanity, is it really so hard to call it "Bluetooth 4.0"?



    Screw you and your worthless naming conventions. One spec. One standard. One new chip. Period.







    WHO WANTS TO MEMORIZE THIS?!



    And it is just plain weird - at a glance, it looks like BlueTooth Smart Ready is compatible with 3 different things, while Bluetooth Smart is compatible only with one. Doesn't that make "Ready" the better choice?



    From the chart, it looks like if my product bears a Bluetooth Smart logo, it is NOT compatible with another product bearing a Bluetooth Smart logo. WTF?
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  • Reply 34 of 46
    conradjoeconradjoe Posts: 1,887member
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    Originally Posted by rhyde View Post


    Does "smart ready" mean that it's "stupid now"?












    Good one!
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  • Reply 35 of 46
    macrrmacrr Posts: 488member
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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


    No, that wasn't their purpose.







    No, that's not the reason.







    Every single other company on the planet, and every single other company on the planet STILL doesn't believe it. Again, not the reason.







    Yep, absolutely. But wasn't the reason Apple doesn't ship Blu-ray.






    Yet... You can't supply a reason. Want to try again? Cause it looks like you don't understand what happened and come off kinda like a whiny douche.



    And I'm correct. Sorry.
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  • Reply 36 of 46
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    Originally Posted by MacRR View Post


    Yet... You can't supply a reason.



    OS-level DRM. Period.



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    Want to try again?



    Your, uh, next "challenge", please?



    And I'll give you an hour or so to remove the insult.



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    And I'm correct. Sorry.



    Nope. Sorry.
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  • Reply 37 of 46
    macrrmacrr Posts: 488member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


    OS-level DRM. Period.







    Your, uh, next "challenge", please?



    And I'll give you an hour or so to remove the insult.







    Nope. Sorry.





    Hahaha. Nice rumor blurb. I'd have throw out some knowledge bombs on ya and point out FACTS... But blah blah. I realize the level of intellect I'm dealing with.



    truth hurt? Going to tattle on me?





    Thanks for the chuckle.
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  • Reply 38 of 46
    jfanningjfanning Posts: 3,398member
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    Originally Posted by MacRR View Post


    Physical media sucks anyways- drains power, loud, gets damaged. And the quality isn't so much better- and will become equivalent in time.



    Drains power? If you are concerned about that, I hope you leave your computer powered off at all times as everything it does drains power.



    Gets damaged? Take better care of you things, I have over 500 movies on "physical media", none have been damaged



    Quality? Oh, I see you are taking the piss, are you trying to compare the quality of iTunes downloads to a Blu-ray movie? Yeah, I class DD as high quality as well...
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  • Reply 39 of 46
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    Originally Posted by ConradJoe View Post


    From the chart, it looks like if my product bears a Bluetooth Smart logo, it is NOT compatible with another product bearing a Bluetooth Smart logo. WTF?



    Bluetooth Smart? devices are ONLY capable of sending data (that's what keeps them in ultra low-power mode). They cannot receive data. That's why two Bluetooth Smart? devices can't communicate between each other.



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    And it is just plain weird - at a glance, it looks like BlueTooth Smart Ready is compatible with 3 different things, while Bluetooth Smart is compatible only with one. Doesn't that make "Ready" the better choice?



    Of course it is the better choice for devices that receive data, of which there are only two choices, legacy Bluteooth? 3.0 or Bluetooth Smart Ready?



    Actually, the whole thing makes perfect sense to me.
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  • Reply 40 of 46
    macrrmacrr Posts: 488member
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    Originally Posted by jfanning View Post


    Drains power? If you are concerned about that, I hope you leave your computer powered off at all times as everything it does drains power.



    Gets damaged? Take better care of you things, I have over 500 movies on "physical media", none have been damaged



    Quality? Oh, I see you are taking the piss, are you trying to compare the quality of iTunes downloads to a Blu-ray movie? Yeah, I class DD as high quality as well...



    Of course, everything drains power. That's not a good point, and sadly, it is what it is.



    I never said I don't take care of my things. I don't own over 500 movies tho. I have a lot better things to do with my time. Howse your hundreds of CDs, cassettes, and 8 tracks treating ya? Hoard much? Again, no valid point to what I said. Maybe you shouldn't clutter your home with hundreds of plastic discs, cases, and shelves to store it?



    I'm not taking any pisses, but you missed the point. So...
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