Gartner: Apple's iOS lost smartphone share to Android in Q3 2011

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  • Reply 61 of 84
    doh123doh123 Posts: 323member
    How can you compare Android devices to iPhones?



    Thats like saying compare all Mercedes sold vs all cars that had 4 cylinder engines by every company in existence. While an iPhone is pretty much an iPhone, there are drastic differences in Android devices. Its possible to get 2 different devices that are not even alike in function.
  • Reply 62 of 84
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    Originally Posted by Maecvs View Post


    Could we please not dumb down English? The plural to a word is "s". Not "z". We must fight to keep our grammar proper. Not have it diluted and dumbed down by illiterates, and annoying cultural "trends". After all, is what we want to be handing down to our posterity???



    Pictures. Devices. Screens.



    I've been pulled over by the grammar police! Want to see my license and registration?



    I see you're not familiar with the usual suspectz, being new to AppleInsider forums. Welcome. You will soon understand. Watch and learn.
  • Reply 63 of 84
    flaneurflaneur Posts: 4,526member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MessagePad2100 View Post


    Android just seems to be getting marketshare from the messy "old world" of smart phones.



    Apple doesn't seem to be getting hurt by Android as much.



    Agree, see below, under DA's quote.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ConradJoe View Post


    Data hogs?



    Yeah, from smarter people who like to explore the world beyond their noses.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post


    Considering a blog dedicated to the Mobile world...



    ...A blog to give the reader hints on how to exploit the features of the Mobile OS and to review Mobile Applications...



    ...maybe call it: Mobile Tips & Apps...





    Thoughts?



    I would think it would have to be Apple specific, with the occasional other-platform story to keep your readers feeling lucky they don't belong to that other world, the way AI functions, basically.



    And if there's still to be an Android in the future, you could fork the site to include it. But expecting the two camps to hang out together? Don't know about that.



    It occurs to me that if we didn't have Android for contrast, we'd have to invent it. I wonder if that ever occurred to Steve. If there was only the iPhone, imagine the kvetching we would have to put up with about "the walled garden," etc.



    Thanks, Eric.



    Edit: How soon we forget. There was the infamous Steve J./Ryan T. email exchange: If you want porn, get an Android . . .
  • Reply 64 of 84
    maecvsmaecvs Posts: 129member
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    Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton View Post


    I've been pulled over by the grammar police! Want to see my license and registration?



    I see you're not familiar with the usual suspectz, being new to AppleInsider forums. Welcome. You will soon understand. Watch and learn.



    Thanks for the welcome. Nice reply.



    Not sure who the usual suspectz are. I'm not picking on you, I'm just sad to see how our language is being taken down to the lowest common demoninator. Instead of trying to educucated the illiterate, we are going the other way, embracing the dumbness, and incorporating it into our culture. The da house, instead of the correct "in THE house".



    We are raising future generations who have little to no proper grammar and spelling skills.....



    I know this is a non-sequitor......
  • Reply 65 of 84
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton View Post


    Prediction: this thread will end in picturez. Either picturez of devicez or picturez or screenz.



    You have something against moviez?



    AndyAndy Does His Thing
  • Reply 66 of 84
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post


    You have something against moviez?



    AndyAndy Does His Thing



    Soooo creepy... so verrrry creepy.
  • Reply 67 of 84
    MarvinMarvin Posts: 15,277moderator
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Asherian View Post


    The iPhone had zero chance of being the dominant mobile platform. But make no mistake, marketshare is important. Marketshare is what relegated Mac to niche status for decades.



    I would agree marketshare is important to an extent and Apple can't hope to match the sales volume of cheaper Android devices that are $160 or less unsubsidised:



    http://www.amazon.com/Unlocked-Samsu...388747&sr=1-19



    Over 50% marketshare in smartphones is huge vs Apple's 15%. I didn't expect it to shift so much so suddenly but I should have, considering Apple is one manufacturer vs well over 10 manufacturers shipping with Android.



    I'm glad it's Google and not Microsoft dominating and it's good to see Microsoft dropping from 2.7% to 1.5% but Android is going to wipe out Symbian altogether now that Nokia is in with Microsoft so they might top 70% marketshare in 2012.



    I don't think it will quite have the same effect as the desktop share though simply because it's down to numbers and also the developer side where Android suffers from poor support:



    http://techcrunch.com/2011/10/27/cha...fragmentation/



    Even at 15%, there's still about 150 million iPhones out there, which is a lot of users. Years back when the Mac was ignored, you'd be talking about 1 million Macs per quarter. With 5% or so now worldwide, OS X still gets pretty decent support.
  • Reply 68 of 84
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by fecklesstechguy View Post


    Of course Netflix released Android first - it's easier and not controlled.



    Netflix did not release an Android app first, there has been an iOS app for Netflix from the beginning. They simply released a new Android app before updating the old iOS app.



    Why would you even say something like that, it shows you have no idea what apps exist on the Apple platform.
  • Reply 69 of 84
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MacDevil View Post


    But that example completely ruins your marketshare argument. Netflix released a new app for Android tablets. The iPad has 80+% of the tablet market. If marketshare were the driving factor, shouldn't Netflix have released an update for the iPad first?



    Of course, with all the "brilliant" business decisions Netflix has made lately, I'm not suppressed they decided to update for Android first...



    had to have it ready for kindle fire. can't lag with amazon prime pushing into the territory.
  • Reply 70 of 84
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by TalkingNewMedia View Post


    Netflix did not release an Android app first, there has been an iOS app for Netflix from the beginning. They simply released a new Android app before updating the old iOS app.



    Why would you even say something like that, it shows you have no idea what apps exist on the Apple platform.



    true. i had to wait 'forever' to get netflix on android tablet.

    most apps i see announced for android tablet have already been released for ipad (like adobe touch announced today for android)

    my bad. just saw that only one app is on ios. but with adobe not having it on ipad first is probably just a stab at apple for Flash....
  • Reply 71 of 84
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Flaneur View Post


    Agree, see below, under DA's quote.







    Yeah, from smarter people who like to explore the world beyond their noses.







    I would think it would have to be Apple specific, with the occasional other-platform story to keep your readers feeling lucky they don't belong to that other world, the way AI functions, basically.



    And if there's still to be an Android in the future, you could fork the site to include it. But expecting the two camps to hang out together? Don't know about that.



    It occurs to me that if we didn't have Android for contrast, we'd have to invent it. I wonder if that ever occurred to Steve. If there was only the iPhone, imagine the kvetching we would have to put up with about "the walled garden," etc.



    Thanks, Eric.



    Edit: How soon we forget. There was the infamous Steve J./Ryan T. email exchange: If you want porn, get an Android . . .





    there is some interesting things going on: android 4 code released, 4 out on devices next month (if not later this month) and the ASUS Transformer Prime: thinner than ipad2 and lighter and supposedly 12 hour battery life (18 if you use the dock/keyboard). i think it will do well. phone wise i am not so sure the Galaxy Nexus will be all that.

    So i hope that Apple has some real treats in store next year and isn't just resting on that stack of money lol.
  • Reply 72 of 84
    conradjoeconradjoe Posts: 1,887member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by screamingfist View Post


    there is some interesting things going on: android 4 code released, 4 out on devices next month (if not later this month) and the ASUS Transformer Prime: thinner than ipad2 and lighter and supposedly 12 hour battery life (18 if you use the dock/keyboard). i think it will do well. phone wise i am not so sure the Galaxy Nexus will be all that.



    Quad core Tegra 3 chip, IIRC. It looks sweet. I like the idea of the keyboard dock. The machine has more horsepower than some other stuff being sold as a laptop these days.



    One reservation I have is that it ships with honeycomb. Supposedly it will be updated to ICS in December, but you never can be sure.
  • Reply 73 of 84
    Hy,



    It indeed true that the profits of apple represent a much large share.

    this is because apple sells the products with a hugh margin..



    in other words ...they kind of sold me a cheap device at a high price ...i am not so happy with that :-(



    hmm, makes me think if i need to continue ...eg on my pc I use legalsound and thats a lot cheaper than itunes.



    well , its just a commment
  • Reply 74 of 84
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ConradJoe View Post


    Quad core Tegra 3 chip, IIRC. It looks sweet. I like the idea of the keyboard dock. The machine has more horsepower than some other stuff being sold as a laptop these days.



    One reservation I have is that it ships with honeycomb. Supposedly it will be updated to ICS in December, but you never can be sure.



    i am fighting the urge to get one....the only thing i truly am not liking is the keyboard. it is cramped (unless the new one has revamped keyboard, i have a first gen). can't decide between ipad2 or 3 + apple wireless keyboard.
  • Reply 75 of 84
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by beachboy View Post


    in other words ...they kind of sold me a cheap device at a high price ...i am not so happy with that



    Buy some Apple stock. Your mindset will do a COMPLETE 180.
  • Reply 76 of 84
    axualaxual Posts: 244member
    I just don't care about this.
  • Reply 77 of 84
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by axual View Post


    I just don't care about this.



    So why comment on it?
  • Reply 78 of 84
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


    So why comment on it?



    Because some of us hang on his every word; I can't sleep at night without knowing his opinion
  • Reply 79 of 84
    Sensationalist aritcles........



    Is this really a 'loss' in market share ,or just an increase on Android's part? What I meat is that, there are still people on RAZRS so if they upgraded from feature phone to Android phone is it a completel loss? Rather, if we see a rather important decrease in iPhone sales and the increase in Android sales consistantly, then yes I would say so.
  • Reply 80 of 84
    djsherlydjsherly Posts: 1,031member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by diddy View Post


    I doubt it. Android sells a lot simply because it is an OS available on multiple phones. You might as well compare the number of bullets fired from a sniper versus a machine gun.



    Gruber basically quoted you:



    http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/11/16/3gs
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