Apples Drive have the Apple logo on them. We in the old mac users from before OS X called the apple logo on the drive as the drive being blessed. I would think that Apple has to wait for the drive manufacturer to build a drive and bless it with the logo to make it an official Apple drive. Wether it has an Apple rom on the drive is highly unlikely.
Given this fact, it is hard for me to accept that Apple is having difficulty obtaining drives, unless the Mac Pro assembly lines hav e different stock sources than the iMac lines. And even if that were true, why wouldn't Apple ship drives to the iMac facility?
Dunno. Drive shortages don't seem to be a likely cause for the iMac delays.
Could be that the Pro drives are higher end than the iMac line, and that thus Apple has a different contract with that supplier that guarantees it better access.
All I know is when I look on Newegg at the HD prices, I go "OMG"
Play, Amazon, PC World and Argos have all doubled their 1TB drive prices, at the beginning of the year I could buy a 1TB WD or Seagate drive for £47, now they are £110????
I didn't know so many HDs were made in Thailand. I thought it was Japan and South Korea. Good luck to the Thai people, I hope they get over their flooding soon.
Given this fact, it is hard for me to accept that Apple is having difficulty obtaining drives, unless the Mac Pro assembly lines hav e different stock sources than the iMac lines. And even if that were true, why wouldn't Apple ship drives to the iMac facility?
Dunno. Drive shortages don't seem to be a likely cause for the iMac delays.
That's not looking at it correctly.
The iMac's use 3.5" WD Caviar Blue(7200RPM), the Time Capsules use Caviar Green(not 7200RPM), the Macbook Pro's use Seagate 2.5" drives (Momentus 5400), the Macmini's can use 7200 or 5400 Segate, Samsung or Western Digital 2.5" drives
So only the iMac's and MacPro's use 3.5" drives, but the Mac Pro's might be RAID/Enterprise models if they are consistent with the use of workstation/server parts.
Someone with a real Mac Pro could verify, as iFixit doesn't have any Mac Pro's.
As for sourcing parts, Apple has the option of SSD's if there was really a critical shortage of Hard drives, so I don't think Apple is going to go "oh noes, no more hard drives." In fact it would be perfectly within their line of thinking to just go standard on SSD's and make the spinning drives secondary options.
Please remember that the drives in the current generation of iMacs are custom units. Apple decided to get "too cute" with their engineering. Rather than using older methods, Apple switched to having the system use the drive internal drive temp sensor via custom firmware connecting to the system via a special SATA cable. This effectively made iMac drives Apple only and not user upgradable--IMHO, both are bad things for users. PowerMacs can use any old drive on the market. Just try walking into a store to buy a drive that will work in your new iMac.
So, I suspect that the Apple suppliers for these custom units of 2 TB size were all in the area of Thailand affected. They now have a shortage on their hands, and it has been made more acute by engineering decisions that are elegant but user unfriendly. I personally hope that their engineers can find a way to undo this proprietary drive firmware nonsense.
Play, Amazon, PC World and Argos have all doubled their 1TB drive prices, at the beginning of the year I could buy a 1TB WD or Seagate drive for £47, now they are £110????
That's what happens when something is in short supply.
I didn't know so many HDs were made in Thailand. I thought it was Japan and South Korea. Good luck to the Thai people, I hope they get over their flooding soon.
It's not just the drives. Certain components for virtually all drives are made in Thailand.
Please remember that the drives in the current generation of iMacs are custom units. Apple decided to get "too cute" with their engineering. Rather than using older methods, Apple switched to having the system use the drive internal drive temp sensor via custom firmware connecting to the system via a special SATA cable. This effectively made iMac drives Apple only and not user upgradable--IMHO, both are bad things for users. PowerMacs can use any old drive on the market. Just try walking into a store to buy a drive that will work in your new iMac.
So, I suspect that the Apple suppliers for these custom units of 2 TB size were all in the area of Thailand affected. They now have a shortage on their hands, and it has been made more acute by engineering decisions that are elegant but user unfriendly. I personally hope that their engineers can find a way to undo this proprietary drive firmware nonsense.
Given that 2 TB drives from all sources have skyrocketed in price (see some of the examples above), your theory doesn't seem to apply.
2 TB hard drive is not exactly the most popular custom configuration for the average customer. Hopefully this shortage will be over soon even though it does not affect the majority of Imac users.
I wonder what data centers use for their drives. Though that might still be a relatively low number of drives. Only 500x2TB drives per Petabyte. Apple surely sells more 500 2TB Time Capsules in a week. That's only 26,000 a year and they showing 1-2 business days (though those were probably packaged months ago).
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PROMISE PEGASUS R6 12TB-CAF
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$1,999.00
Ships: Aug 8
Delivers Aug 15 by Standard Shipping
Part Number: H5187VC/A
Today, that same device is $2,499 in the Apple Online Store -- an increase of 25%.
Promise Pegasus 12TB (6x2TB) R6 RAID System
Given this fact, it is hard for me to accept that Apple is having difficulty obtaining drives, unless the Mac Pro assembly lines hav e different stock sources than the iMac lines. And even if that were true, why wouldn't Apple ship drives to the iMac facility?
Dunno. Drive shortages don't seem to be a likely cause for the iMac delays.
Could be that the Pro drives are higher end than the iMac line, and that thus Apple has a different contract with that supplier that guarantees it better access.
All I know is when I look on Newegg at the HD prices, I go "OMG"
Play, Amazon, PC World and Argos have all doubled their 1TB drive prices, at the beginning of the year I could buy a 1TB WD or Seagate drive for £47, now they are £110????
Good luck to the Vietnamese, I hope they get over their flooding soon.
You mean the Thai, right? I think Siamese is still acceptable in some regards.
You mean the Thai, right? I think Siamese is still acceptable in some regards.
Ooops... edited.
Given this fact, it is hard for me to accept that Apple is having difficulty obtaining drives, unless the Mac Pro assembly lines hav e different stock sources than the iMac lines. And even if that were true, why wouldn't Apple ship drives to the iMac facility?
Dunno. Drive shortages don't seem to be a likely cause for the iMac delays.
That's not looking at it correctly.
The iMac's use 3.5" WD Caviar Blue(7200RPM), the Time Capsules use Caviar Green(not 7200RPM), the Macbook Pro's use Seagate 2.5" drives (Momentus 5400), the Macmini's can use 7200 or 5400 Segate, Samsung or Western Digital 2.5" drives
So only the iMac's and MacPro's use 3.5" drives, but the Mac Pro's might be RAID/Enterprise models if they are consistent with the use of workstation/server parts.
Someone with a real Mac Pro could verify, as iFixit doesn't have any Mac Pro's.
As for sourcing parts, Apple has the option of SSD's if there was really a critical shortage of Hard drives, so I don't think Apple is going to go "oh noes, no more hard drives." In fact it would be perfectly within their line of thinking to just go standard on SSD's and make the spinning drives secondary options.
So, I suspect that the Apple suppliers for these custom units of 2 TB size were all in the area of Thailand affected. They now have a shortage on their hands, and it has been made more acute by engineering decisions that are elegant but user unfriendly. I personally hope that their engineers can find a way to undo this proprietary drive firmware nonsense.
Well, that is bollocks!!!
Play, Amazon, PC World and Argos have all doubled their 1TB drive prices, at the beginning of the year I could buy a 1TB WD or Seagate drive for £47, now they are £110????
That's what happens when something is in short supply.
I didn't know so many HDs were made in Thailand. I thought it was Japan and South Korea. Good luck to the Thai people, I hope they get over their flooding soon.
It's not just the drives. Certain components for virtually all drives are made in Thailand.
Please remember that the drives in the current generation of iMacs are custom units. Apple decided to get "too cute" with their engineering. Rather than using older methods, Apple switched to having the system use the drive internal drive temp sensor via custom firmware connecting to the system via a special SATA cable. This effectively made iMac drives Apple only and not user upgradable--IMHO, both are bad things for users. PowerMacs can use any old drive on the market. Just try walking into a store to buy a drive that will work in your new iMac.
So, I suspect that the Apple suppliers for these custom units of 2 TB size were all in the area of Thailand affected. They now have a shortage on their hands, and it has been made more acute by engineering decisions that are elegant but user unfriendly. I personally hope that their engineers can find a way to undo this proprietary drive firmware nonsense.
Given that 2 TB drives from all sources have skyrocketed in price (see some of the examples above), your theory doesn't seem to apply.
I thought free shipping and $101 off was the best part, but this certainly is good news. Whew!
Some might maybe need a 2TB
¿ If they have some BIG ASS Single Files ?
But since 'Shit Happens'
Rather have 4 x 500GB
Eggs in one basket, etc etc
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Some might maybe need a 2TB
¿ If they have some BIG ASS Single Files ?
But since 'Shit Happens'
Rather have 4 x 500GB
Eggs in one basket, etc etc
Don't forget cables. Lots and lots of cables.
Don't forget cables. Lots and lots of cables.
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4 is "lots" ?
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