Rumor: OEM production of two-year-old iPhone 3GS to reach 2M in Dec. quarter

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  • Reply 21 of 57
    The 3GS is a great phone... In many ways I prefer it to my 4S.



    It feels much nicer in my hand without the sharp edges of the 4S. It even 'looks' thinner.



    My wife dropped the 3GS from about three feet onto concrete and there wasn't a mark on it. I don't think my 4S would fair the same.



    The only thing I can get Siri to do reliably is call people by name... and the 3GS can do that.

    I have a very clear english accent, but it still mishears me about 80% of the time, rendering it essentially useless. Most of the location based services don't work in the UK anyway.



    Sure the camera and the screen are nice, but that's the only advantage I can see, it doesn't even seem noticeably faster.



    I'm certain the iPhone 5 will be amazing and solve most of the 4S's shortcommings, but there is a long time to wait.
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  • Reply 22 of 57
    antkm1antkm1 Posts: 1,441member
    I still have my 3Gs. Use it as a second phone for use overseas. I just wish I could legitimately unlock it without a JB. Damn you ATT!



    Honestly, I liked the design of the 3G and 3Gs better than the iP4. It just feels more comfortable to hold in your hand. Sure it doesn't have that "Leica" feel but that could have been improved. Personally, I don't see why they could just go back to aluminum. The iPad works well with it, why not that form factor?
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  • Reply 23 of 57
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    but with each next iteration that glass gets emptier and emptier. I still stand by my point. If you can afford to get the current or at best the one before it, you are better off with an android phone



    Better off with an Android? In your dreams



    iPhone 3GS (as well as the iPhone 4) both run the latest iOS 5 software except for Siri, which you can only get with the top of the line iPhone 4S.



    Android is so fragmented and dysfunctional that only one Android phone can run the latest Android software! - see link:-



    http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...or_months.html



    To get the latest Android software you have to pay far more than even the top of the line iPhone 4S (because Carriers give much larger subsidies to iPhones) and no Android has Siri, so you won't get Siri however much extra you are willing to pay for Android!



    If you don't want Siri then you can get a 3GS or iPhone 4 with the latest iOS 5 for hundreds of dollars less that the only Android with the latest software (but also no Siri).



    In every survey iPhone is the most desired Brand, with far higher satisfaction ratings than Android, and far higher retention rates and customer loyalty.



    All iPhones have access to a far greater and richer media ecosystem than Android, including the largest range of music, movies, TV programmes, games and eBooks and double the Apps which are far higher quality, and much more bug free than Android Apps, many of which are "fart" Apps that anybody can write.



    iOS is far more secure than Android which is wide open to any crook's malaware, spyware and spam



    So why do you want to pay so much for a less secure Android with far inferior user experience with no Siri?
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  • Reply 24 of 57
    antkm1antkm1 Posts: 1,441member
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    Originally Posted by Just_Me View Post


    With iphone 4 not being able to do SIRI why would anyone want one even if its free



    because some people have never experienced the iPhone at all and just want to get into one without spending $200-$300 on a phone just for some feature that's not 100% right now. To me, Siri is a luxury, not a necessity.
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  • Reply 25 of 57
    antkm1antkm1 Posts: 1,441member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Just_Me View Post


    If you cant afford the current or at least the one before the current then you wont be able get much content for your iphone cause most apps in the apple apps store cost money.



    You are better off with android if you cant or dont want to speed money on apps



    Dude, the 3Gs is supported up to the most current iOS to date. Unless the App Manuf. specifically states that you need an iPhone4 or better, the 3Gs will work fine.



    Let's not be so smug about this. The more iOS users we have the better IMO.
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  • Reply 26 of 57
    antkm1antkm1 Posts: 1,441member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tylerk36 View Post


    I already understand that. But. If we go by iPhone identifier then the iPHone 5 the iPhone that will be called iPhone 5 the one after 4S will be called 5. Get it!!!!!



    well, if you look at the history behind the naming, They called iP4 that way because it was legitimately the 4th iPhone. Naming the next one after the 4s the iPhone 5 makes no sense. It would be called iPhone 6. If you remember the 2nd generation iPhone was called the iPhone 3G, not iPhone 2.



    So my bet would be on iPhone 6 or iPhone 4G(s)
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  • Reply 27 of 57
    s4mb4s4mb4 Posts: 267member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Just_Me View Post


    With iphone 4 not being able to do SIRI why would anyone want one even if its free



    because in a couple more months,Apple will release SIRI in the app store for $29.99. Then everyone can talk to their iPhone regardless of it's version.
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  • Reply 28 of 57
    asdasdasdasd Posts: 5,686member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by antkm1 View Post


    well, if you look at the history behind the naming, They called iP4 that way because it was legitimately the 4th iPhone. Naming the next one after the 4s the iPhone 5 makes no sense. It would be called iPhone 6. If you remember the 2nd generation iPhone was called the iPhone 3G, not iPhone 2.



    So my bet would be on iPhone 6 or iPhone 4G(s)



    of course it makes sense, as the last phone had 4 in the name.
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  • Reply 29 of 57
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by asdasd View Post


    of course it makes sense, as the last phone had 4 in the name.



    So why didn't they have an iPhone 2? Why didn't they simply have an iPhone 3 after the iPhone 3G? Why didn't call the 5th gen iPhone 5? You people are really dense if you think the 6th gen iPhone will be called iPhone 5. Regardless of what they call it it will NOT be called iPhone 5. The ONLY device that was given a simple cardinal number after the name was the iPhone 4 because that the 4th generation. This is rocket science people, this isn't basic reasoning skills.
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  • Reply 30 of 57
    asdasdasdasd Posts: 5,686member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post


    So why didn't they have an iPhone 2? Why didn't they simply have an iPhone 3 after the iPhone 3G? Why didn't call the 5th gen Phone iPhone 5? You people are really dense if you think the 6th gen iPhone will be called iPhone 5. Regardless of what they call it it will NOT be called iPhone 5. The ONLY device that was given a simple cardinal number after the name was the iPhone 4 because that the 4th generation. This is rocket science people, this is basic reasoning skills.



    The didn't have an iPhone 2 because they wanted to advertise that the phone was a 3G. They therefore broke the numbering system, which you seem to think IS JUST IMPOSSIBLE



    They will call it the iPhone 5 , or possibly an iPhone 4GS, if it is only a 4G phone, which I think unlikely given the state of that market.



    If there is a phone called the iPhone 4GS the next phone is not going to be called the iPhone 7, it will be the iPhone 5 if they keep the numbering system. The reason is simple, these are marketing terms not terms for nerds who can count.



    If anything, and this is where I put my money, they will create three lines of phones next year, each with different form factors - iPhone classic, iPhone, iPhone Pro ( or similar names) - with the form factors of the 3GS, 4, and The Next Phone.





    Mods - why is this muppet getting away with abusive posts in most of his replies. He is adding nothing to this forum, get to work.
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  • Reply 31 of 57
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by asdasd View Post


    The didn't have an iPhone 2 because they wanted to advertise that the phone was a 3G. They therefore broke the numbering system, which you seem to think IS JUST IMPOSSIBLE



    They will call it the iPhone 5 , or possibly an iPhone 4GS, if it is only a 4G phone, which I think unlikely given the state of that market.



    If there is a phone called the iPhone 4GS the next phone is not going to be called the iPhone 7, it will be the iPhone 5 if they keep the numbering system. The reason is simple, these are marketing terms not terms for nerds who can count.



    If anything, and this is where I put my money, they will create three lines of phones next year, each with different form factors - iPhone classic, iPhone, iPhone Pro ( or similar names) - with the form factors of the 3GS, 4, and The Next Phone.



    You ddn't create a valid counter-argument, you just babble off stuff we already know. As previously stated there is only precedence for using a lone cardinal number to refer to the generation of the device: The iPhone 4. For the 6th generation iPhone it will be called iPhone 4G for LTE, iPhone 6, or anything but iPhone 5.



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    Mods - why is this muppet getting away with abusive posts in most of his replies. He is adding nothing to this forum, get to work.



    You are the only one that has made an ad hominem personal attack here. Decimating your argument isn't against the forum rules, you just need to learn to think more before you post. I have faith in you.
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  • Reply 32 of 57
    asdasdasdasd Posts: 5,686member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post


    You ddn't create a valid counter-argument, you just babble off stuff we already know. As previously stated there is only precedence for using a lone cardinal number to refer to the generation of the device: The iPhone 4. For the 6th generation iPhone it will be called iPhone 4G for LTE, iPhone 6, or anything but iPhone 5.



    There is no such preference. Apple used the iPhone 4 after the 3GS because it changed the form factor. If they had released a 3GS+ the next change in form factor would be the iPhone 4.



    Lets get this clear. The is no way that Apple will jump a number. In marketing terms that is lunacy. They are not counting. Nerds might be counting but Apple has a marketing department with lots of people who will decide on the next name not on the basis of a count, but on what will have the best marketing impact - and appearing to jump from a 4 model to a iPhone 6, or 7 would have the technical press in tears of laughter. Nobody is counting but you and two other guys on the internet.



    ( I think they will abandon numbers in time, as I said).



    Quote:

    You are the only one that has made an ad hominem personal attack here. Decimating your argument isn't against the forum rules, you just need to learn to think more before you post. I have faith in you.



    A response to You people are really dense.



    In any case I take it back. Kermit put on a good if chaotic show, and showed a fair amount of intelligence. Apologies for any offence caused.
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  • Reply 33 of 57
    asdasdasdasd Posts: 5,686member
    Back to the topic at hand. There is a lot of milage in he 3GS and it's form factor. I would have though that 2 million was a bit weak, actually, given the price drops. If they ever meet that sweet spot of $199-£220 ( when the 5 is released) then the 3GS could become the biggest seller again.
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  • Reply 34 of 57
    conradjoeconradjoe Posts: 1,887member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by antkm1 View Post




    So my bet would be on iPhone 6 or iPhone 4G(s)



    The 4GS will be the next iPhone. It will have 4G capability, a faster chip, and an exclusive software feature (likely something to do with maps). Otherwise, it will be the same phone.



    It will be a huge disappointment, and will sell very well.
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  • Reply 35 of 57
    antkm1antkm1 Posts: 1,441member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by asdasd View Post


    There is no such preference. Apple used the iPhone 4 after the 3GS because it changed the form factor. If they had released a 3GS+ the next change in form factor would be the iPhone 4.



    You're saying here that the iPhone 4 was ONLY named iPhone 4 because they changed form factor? Not because it was the 4th Gen iPhone?



    So by your logic, the iPhone 4 SHOULD HAVE been named the iPhone 3 because it was the 3rd form factor. So your statement is a little off, since the iPhone 3G and 3Gs were essentially the same form factor.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by asdasd View Post


    Lets get this clear. The is no way that Apple will jump a number. In marketing terms that is lunacy. They are not counting. Nerds might be counting but Apple has a marketing department with lots of people who will decide on the next name not on the basis of a count, but on what will have the best marketing impact - and appearing to jump from a 4 model to a iPhone 6, or 7 would have the technical press in tears of laughter. Nobody is counting but you and two other guys on the internet.



    They jumped TWO (2) numbers when they named the iPhone 4. They skipped iPhone 2 because they were trying to emphasize that the second-gen phone was 3G capable, as stated previously.



    They also skipped 3 (technically) because the 3G in 3Gs was still referring to 3G capability (i have no idea what the lower-case "s" in a box meant). You will also notice that the "s" on the box is a full space after the 3G. Google the box if you like.



    Then They skipped FIVE (5) when they named the iPhone 4s. The "s" meaning "Siri", it has been rumored.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by asdasd View Post


    ( I think they will abandon numbers in time, as I said).



    Just about the only thing you've said that I agree with. However that has been said many times, including myself, in previous posts.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by asdasd View Post


    A response to You people are really dense.



    Insulting your fellow post-ers never wins any battles.
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  • Reply 36 of 57
    asdasdasdasd Posts: 5,686member
    Quote:

    So by your logic, the iPhone 4 SHOULD HAVE been named the iPhone 3 because it was the 3rd form factor. So your statement is a little off, since the iPhone 3G and 3Gs were essentially the same form factor.



    Because the 3G has a number in it, a 3 would seem like a backward step so the used the 4 to signify the new form factor.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by antkm1 View Post




    They jumped TWO (2) numbers when they named the iPhone 4. They skipped iPhone 2 because they were trying to emphasize that the second-gen phone was 3G capable, as stated previously.



    Yes, very good. But you admit the 3G and 3GS has a number here, and then goes on to say it doesn't. Like....



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    They also skipped 3 (technically) because the 3G in 3Gs was still referring to 3G capability (i have no idea what the lower-case "s" in a box meant).



    It meant speed. The 3 was still in there.



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    Then They skipped FIVE (5) when they named the iPhone 4s. The "s" meaning "Siri", it has been rumoured.



    No, speed. Again,



    Apple isn't following any numbering system which maps to the actual yearly release of the phone. They are bumping up number for significant releases and changes in form factor, except in the case where they use the change radio chip to name ( as in the 3G, and maybe the 4G). If there is a number phone after the 4S it will be the 5, if there is one after the 4GS is will also be the 5, because any other number would seem ridiculous, like jumping a few generations.



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    Plus insulting your fellow post-ers never wins any battles.



    The guy I was quoting never stops.
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  • Reply 37 of 57
    antkm1antkm1 Posts: 1,441member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by asdasd View Post


    Because the 3G has a number in it, a 3 would seem like a backward step so the used the 4 to signify the new form factor.



    Yes, very good. But you admit the 3G and 3GS has a number here, and then goes on to say it doesn't. Like....



    You're reading this wrong, I never said the the "3" in 3G or 3Gs meant it was the third Gen iPhone, it stands for "3G" and "3G S"...this means the radio chip not the Generation of the phone. LOOK at the Box! or Apple's website, there is a visible gap between the "G" and the "S" but no space between the "3" and the "G". And on the box there's a much bigger space between and the "S" is in a rounded filled box. Same as the iPhone 4 S



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by asdasd View Post


    It meant speed. The 3 was still in there.

    Thanks for the clarification, could your site your source?



    No, speed. Again,



    Meaning the iPhone 4 S? I'm not sure if there is an official statement on either phone why the "S" is there. Please forward me your source and I will agree.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by asdasd View Post


    Apple isn't following any numbering system which maps to the actual yearly release of the phone. They are bumping up number for significant releases and changes in form factor, except in the case where they use the change radio chip to name ( as in the 3G, and maybe the 4G). If there is a number phone after the 4S it will be the 5, if there is one after the 4GS is will also be the 5, because any other number would seem ridiculous, like jumping a few generations.



    But as my (quite clear) argument goes, they did skip several numbers when they named the iPhone 4, which just so happened to be the 4th year release...so again your statement is false.



    Yes, naming the next iPhone...5 or even 6 would be a bit silly. That's why I think it may be something more referring to the features/technology of the phone, like 4G, 4G S or LTE or whatever...
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  • Reply 38 of 57
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by asdasd View Post


    Because the 3G has a number in it, a 3 would seem like a backward step so the used the 4 to signify the new form factor.



    So you think Apple with use generational numbers to refer to drastic case changes? You go ahead and stick with that theory and the rest of us will stay out of the wardrobe.



    Quote:

    Apple isn't following any numbering system which maps to the actual yearly release of the phone. They are bumping up number for significant releases and changes in form factor, except in the case where they use the change radio chip to name ( as in the 3G, and maybe the 4G). If there is a number phone after the 4S it will be the 5, if there is one after the 4GS is will also be the 5, because any other number would seem ridiculous, like jumping a few generations.



    So you acknolwdge Apple will skip numbers if it betters their marketing as noted by calling the 2nd gen iPhone an iPhone 3G, and then not simply calling the 3rd gen an iPhone 3, yet you forget what you just were and state they will call the 6th gen an iPhone 5. You've complete discounted the possibility of an iPhone 4G to represent HSPA+/LTE, or iPhone 6 to refer to the 6th generation, or some other naming concession that doesn't tie a previous generation number to a later generation because you think 4S preceded 5. Good luck with that.



    Show me a single example of an iPod with generational number that is not of that generation.
    Quote:

    The guy I was quoting never stops.



    This muppet goes after after weak and myopic comments not weak and myopic commenters.





    PS: People refer to the next iPad as iPad 3 not because they are sure it will be called that, but because it's the 3rd gen iPad. For all we know it could be iPad 2S if it has the same form factor, or even iPad 2 HD or anything else, but we sat iPad 3 because it's a logical placeholder.
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  • Reply 39 of 57
    antkm1antkm1 Posts: 1,441member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by asdasd View Post


    It meant speed. The 3 was still in there.



    That's what people THINK it meant. I don't think it's ever been stated by Apple or SJ.

    http://techcrunch.com/2009/06/08/say...creaming-fast/

    Note in this article the author says "that's what the 'S' REALLY means". My take on that statement says that we still don't know what it means, just what we THINK it means...or what the general public has accepted as the meaning. That's why I claim no idea on it's meaning.





    Quote:
    Originally Posted by asdasd View Post


    No, speed. Again,



    The "S" in iPhone 4 S has never been explained by Apple.



    http://macdailynews.com/2011/10/12/w...uy-this-phone/

    http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19512_7...and-for-speed/
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  • Reply 40 of 57
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by antkm1 View Post


    That's what people THINK it meant. I don't think it's ever been stated by Apple or SJ.

    http://techcrunch.com/2009/06/08/say...creaming-fast/

    Note in this article the author says "that's what the 'S' REALLY means". My take on that statement says that we still don't know what it means, just what we THINK it means...or what the general public has accepted as the meaning. That's why I claim no idea on it's meaning.



    The "S" in iPhone 4 S has never been explained by Apple.



    http://macdailynews.com/2011/10/12/w...uy-this-phone/

    http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19512_7...and-for-speed/



    I could swear during the iPhone 3GS special event the [S] was stated as being for speed. However I don't recall any such statement for the 4S though it stands to reason that I my first sentence is accurate then the latter likely is too.



    That said it's quite possible with so many [S] designations to append this time around a good marketing move would be to leave it up in the air. To never officially define it.
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