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Faster Superdrives later this year? According to several very interesting documents emailed to us by an international Apple source, yes. The current model Swiss Army Knife of optical drives runs at 6x read/2x write for DVDs and 24x read, 8x CD-R write and 4x CD-RW write. A new version currently being tested at Apple would up virtually all of those speeds - 8X/4X for DVDs and 40X/12X/8X for CDs, respectively. Of course as with all CD drives claiming 40X speeds, real-world performance will be much lower, but it should still be significantly improved over the current 24X speed. If the timeline put forth in these documents proves accurate, we may see this new SuperDrive before the end of the year - in PowerMacs first, of course.



Still longing for more processor performance from the latest PowerMacs before you buy one? Well, if a Dual 1GHz model with 133MHz SDRAM doesn't impress you, how about a Dual 1.4GHz beast employing powerful new PowerPC 7500 processors and screamingly fast 400MHz RapidIO-compatible memory? It has taken months of digging to confirm this, but it looks like the much-hyped PPC 7500, a G4 designed to add some of the features of the G5 family, will be the centerpiece of Apple's mid-year PowerMac update. A 400MHz leap in processor clock is dramatic, but made possible by the 7500's deeper command pipelines, next-generation wiring process and modernized chip architecture. Much more on this rumor in the days and weeks ahead.



New information from one of Apple's key component suppliers suggests the company is working on a mid-sized widescreen flat panel. The new display would be roughly the same height as the company's current 17-inch model, but would be significantly wider to provide a letterbox aspect ratio for watching widescreen DVDs. It is not known whether this would replace or complement the existing standard-aspect 17-inch Studio Display, but resolution is said to be 1152x768 -- same as the Powerbook G4.
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  • Reply 1 of 33
    qaziiqazii Posts: 305member
    [quote]Originally posted by imacman287:

    <strong>Most current update:

    <a href="http://www.mosr.com"; target="_blank">MOSR</a>



    Faster Superdrives later this year? According to several very interesting documents emailed to us by an international Apple source, yes. The current model Swiss Army Knife of optical drives runs at 6x read/2x write for DVDs and 24x read, 8x CD-R write and 4x CD-RW write. A new version currently being tested at Apple would up virtually all of those speeds - 8X/4X for DVDs and 40X/12X/8X for CDs, respectively. Of course as with all CD drives claiming 40X speeds, real-world performance will be much lower, but it should still be significantly improved over the current 24X speed. If the timeline put forth in these documents proves accurate, we may see this new SuperDrive before the end of the year - in PowerMacs first, of course.

    </strong><hr></blockquote>

    Being tested at Apple? Doesn't Apple just buy them from Pioneer? I really doubt Apple is working on its own iSuperDrive.

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    Still longing for more processor performance from the latest PowerMacs before you buy one? Well, if a Dual 1GHz model with 133MHz SDRAM doesn't impress you, how about a Dual 1.4GHz beast employing powerful new PowerPC 7500 processors and screamingly fast 400MHz RapidIO-compatible memory? It has taken months of digging to confirm this, but it looks like the much-hyped PPC 7500, a G4 designed to add some of the features of the G5 family, will be the centerpiece of Apple's mid-year PowerMac update. A 400MHz leap in processor clock is dramatic, but made possible by the 7500's deeper command pipelines, next-generation wiring process and modernized chip architecture. Much more on this rumor in the days and weeks ahead.

    </strong><hr></blockquote>

    Whoa, they've CONFIRMED it! We'll see what these detail we're promising are.

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    New information from one of Apple's key component suppliers suggests the company is working on a mid-sized widescreen flat panel. The new display would be roughly the same height as the company's current 17-inch model, but would be significantly wider to provide a letterbox aspect ratio for watching widescreen DVDs. It is not known whether this would replace or complement the existing standard-aspect 17-inch Studio Display, but resolution is said to be 1152x768 -- same as the Powerbook G4.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Working on...so the probably means not in time for Tokyo.



    [ 03-17-2002: Message edited by: qazII ]</p>
  • Reply 2 of 33
    paulpaul Posts: 5,278member
    [quote]Originally posted by imacman287:

    <strong>Most current update:

    <a href="http://www.mosr.com"; target="_blank">MOSR</a>



    New information from one of Apple's key component suppliers suggests the company is working on a mid-sized widescreen flat panel. The new display would be roughly the same height as the company's current 17-inch model, but would be significantly wider to provide a letterbox aspect ratio for watching widescreen DVDs. It is not known whether this would replace or complement the existing standard-aspect 17-inch Studio Display, but resolution is said to be 1152x768 -- same as the Powerbook G4.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Umm the cinima display is the same height(sp?) as the 17" and BOTH have a resolution greater then the TiBook... sure, this is going to happen...
  • Reply 3 of 33
    Typical MOSR...... <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
  • Reply 4 of 33
    addisonaddison Posts: 1,185member
    There is little else in the way of rumors around and rumers are not guarenteed to be true. So I for one am pleased to read this some of it may be true.
  • Reply 5 of 33
    [quote]Originally posted by imacman287:

    <strong>Most current update:

    <a href="http://www.mosr.com"; target="_blank">MOSR</a>



    .... Of course as with all CD drives claiming 40X speeds, real-world performance will be much lower, but it should still be significantly improved over the current 24X speed....</strong><hr></blockquote>



    I thought the deal with these drives were that they were claiming 40x performance when reading closer to the center of the disc, and that it was well known that when accessing data farther to the outside of the disc was slower than 40x. Is thet what he means by "real world performance"?
  • Reply 6 of 33
    razzfazzrazzfazz Posts: 728member
    [quote]Originally posted by M3D Jack:

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    I thought the deal with these drives were that they were claiming 40x performance when reading closer to the center of the disc, and that it was well known that when accessing data farther to the outside of the disc was slower than 40x. Is thet what he means by "real world performance"?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Probably, but IIRC it's just the other way around (i.e. the drive spins at a more or less constant rate of revolution, so the data passes the read head faster in the outer regions of the disc than it does close to the center).



    Bye,

    RazzFazz
  • Reply 7 of 33
    low-filow-fi Posts: 357member
    [quote]Originally posted by qazII:

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    Being tested at Apple? Doesn't Apple just buy them from Pioneer? I really doubt Apple is working on its own iSuperDrive.

    </strong><hr></blockquote>



    Uh yeah, they are made by Pioneer. Doesn't stop Apple from TESTING them does it...



    AJ
  • Reply 8 of 33
    jasonppjasonpp Posts: 308member
    New information from one of Apple's key component suppliers suggests the company is working on a mid-sized widescreen flat panel. The new display would be roughly the same height as the company's current 17-inch model, but would be significantly wider to provide a letterbox aspect ratio for watching widescreen DVDs. It is not known whether this would replace or complement the existing standard-aspect 17-inch Studio Display, but resolution is said to be 1152x768 -- same as the Powerbook G4.









    Why would Apple release a 17" widescreen that has a lower resolution than the current 17"? This makes no sense what so ever. MOSR even said the PB was goingt o close to 1600x1024... so why would they say.. man, IMHO MOSR is really dim.
  • Reply 9 of 33
    gambitgambit Posts: 475member
    I don't know about the latest crop of MOSR rumors, but a week and a half ago they had a small blurb on Apple Network Assistant for OS X. Late last week Apple released Remote Desktop which is a ported, renamed version of ANA. I've noticed less incredible accounts coming from them lately, and, believe it or not fellas, the SuperDrive will EVENTUALLY get upgraded, and those numbers don't seem too far off.



    Two things: Apple's iMac is encroaching on the PowerMac lines, further blurring the line between consumer and prosumer. Apple has only done this in the past when they planned on a jump for the Powermacs. This makes the high end iMac look like a great deal since it appears to be a better value then the low end PowerMacs. So, this sells more iMacs. Expect to see something from Apple to soup up the PowerMacs and put the iMac back in it's place as the ine gets drawn between consumer and prosumer again. (Not that I don't like the iMac: I have a 800 Superdrive iMac and I freakin' love it.)



    Second: those Superdrive numbers don't seem that far off, and neither do the numbers for the processor upgrades. I could easily see a dual 1.4 GHz G4 with all that good stuff such as 400MHz frontside bus while the iMacs are bumped to a 133MHz bus and faster processors (lacking level 3 cache) to comensate. This is all common sense, and these numbers don't really appear to be stretching it.



    With OS X coming in on its own, the PowerMacs and iMacs being really cool/kick ass digital hubs, all the iSoftware and iDevices, this is really an exciting time to be a Mac user.
  • Reply 10 of 33
    moogsmoogs Posts: 4,296member
    why...WHY THE F*CK do people still waste their time reading MOSR, and then to make matters worse, spam the boards here with useless Meader quotations? How many times do people have to hear that this guy's information is FABRICATED before they get the f*cking idea? JEEEEzus....
  • Reply 11 of 33
    bigcbigc Posts: 1,224member
    [quote]Originally posted by Moogs ?:

    <strong>why...WHY THE F*CK do people still waste their time reading MOSR, and then to make matters worse, spam the boards here with useless Meader quotations? How many times do people have to hear that this guy's information is FABRICATED before they get the f*cking idea? JEEEEzus....</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Yeah, the rumours here are so much better!
  • Reply 12 of 33
    outsideroutsider Posts: 6,008member
    Touche! But seriously, AI has not gotten one rumor wrong all year. (Or one right for that matter)
  • Reply 13 of 33
    maskermasker Posts: 451member
    Other than the mid-size flat screen monitor resolution specs, it all sounds plausible to me as well.



    I also agree that is "doable" as in.. it's not a G5. There has always been a big gap between the 22" and 17 " and a 18 or 19 " er would fill that nicely.



    I'm no staunch believer in anything at MOSR but at any rate, at least it's some new content.



    Here's a juicy AI tidbit...



    Friday, January 4th, 2002



    AppleInsider Launches IRC chat services!





    MSKR
  • Reply 14 of 33
    [quote]Originally posted by Outsider:

    <strong>Touche! But seriously, AI has not gotten one rumor wrong all year. (Or one right for that matter)</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Of course, AI as a website hasn't posted any either.



  • Reply 15 of 33
    g-newsg-news Posts: 1,107member
    I'm a bit sceptical on the "Rapid-IO compatible RAM at 400MHz".

    This would sound like a non standard RAM flavor to me, and Apple has been happy with industry standard RAMs for the past 4 years. Moving away from an industry standard RAM would undoubtedly raise the cost on the RAM and thus on the machine to a sensitive degree.



    All I can imagine is that there's either an on chip controller, or a special controller chips for some kind of 200MHz DDR SDRAM, utilizing Rapid-IO over that extra chip, or CPU section.



    Apple and Moto defining a new kind of RAM with direct Rapid-IO access and 400MHz rate seems very unlikely.



    I'm looking forward to further updates from MOSR.

    After all I know they're rumors, so I don't have to be pissed off at them if they turn out to be false.



    Still way better than a so called "rumor and news site" that hasn't updated it's content in half a year. Seriously, apart from this forum, AI is as dead as a brick, fellas.



    G-news
  • Reply 16 of 33
    spartspart Posts: 2,060member
    [quote]Originally posted by Paul:

    <strong>



    Umm the cinima display is the same height(sp?) as the 17" and BOTH have a resolution greater then the TiBook... sure, this is going to happen... </strong><hr></blockquote>



    Actually the ACD is slightly taller than the 17" ASD.
  • Reply 17 of 33
    marcukmarcuk Posts: 4,442member
    There is some info on 400mhz ddr ram on the register, intrestingly to do with nvidia nForce and hypertransport mixed Motherboards and graphics cards. Doesn't look too untrue to me.
  • Reply 18 of 33
    Still longing for more processor performance from the latest PowerMacs before you buy one? Well, if a Dual 1GHz model with 133MHz SDRAM doesn't impress you, how about a Dual 1.4GHz beast employing powerful new PowerPC 7500 processors and screamingly fast 400MHz RapidIO-compatible memory?



    How is memory RapidIo compatible? The new CPU will incorporate a memory controler on die, so the memory has no direct connection with RapidIo bus.



    Rooster
  • Reply 19 of 33
    amorphamorph Posts: 7,112member
    [quote]Originally posted by G-News:

    <strong>I'm a bit sceptical on the "Rapid-IO compatible RAM at 400MHz".</strong><hr></blockquote>



    That's because it's a meaningless qualification.



    RapidIO might be used between the processor and the memory controller, but that's as close as it'll get. It places no constraints on the type of memory used.



    400MHz implies DDR II, which isn't slated to appear until the end of this year (at "effective" speeds of 400 and 533MHz). Last I'd heard of the MPC 7500, it was also rumored (by the Register, so keep your salt handy) to appear at the end of this year or thereabouts. So, basically, MOSR is pulling the deadline for these technologies back 6 months.



    That's as may be, but I'd be much less surprised if a a 74xx-powered motherboard with 266MHz (effective) DDR appeared this summer.
  • Reply 20 of 33
    nonsuchnonsuch Posts: 293member
    This is the sort of thing I like from MOSR: untrammeled optimism. None of this malarkey about 12-sided G5s, nor boring recitation of the day's "news" that every other site already posted days ago. God knows why people insist on complaining ... not like there's anything else to talk about.
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