Samsung sues Apple over 4 new patents, but backs off iPhone 4S complaint

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  • Reply 41 of 75
    hill60hill60 Posts: 6,991member
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    Originally Posted by majortom1981 View Post


    I thnk the smiley patent is for converting the into an actual smiley pic. Also come on apple has very generic patents also like a rectangle phone with one button on the face.



    So how come Apple took FORTY PAGES to describe a "black rectangle" in the German court case that got the Galaxy Tab banned on SIX points where it had infringed the patent.



    "Apple patented a black rectangle" is pure [email protected]$t and anyone with half a brain knows that.
  • Reply 42 of 75
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by hill60 View Post


    So how come Apple took FORTY PAGES to describe a "black rectangle" in the German court case that got the Galaxy Tab banned on SIX points where it had infringed the patent.



    "Apple patented a black rectangle" is pure [email protected]$t and anyone with half a brain knows that.



    The more detailed six point list is just describing a rounded rectangle. Still ridiculous IMO.
  • Reply 43 of 75
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by majortom1981 View Post


    I thnk the smiley patent is for converting the into an actual smiley pic. Also come on apple has very generic patents also like a rectangle phone with one button on the face.



    When I send a text from my iPhone to my wife's iPhone, ': )' doesn't automatically become a . The same for emails from iPhone to iPhone.



    What Apple device does this so that it's infringing upon Samsung's patent?
  • Reply 44 of 75
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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post






    Methinks that photo has been 'shopped. Tim's natural smile is either perfectly horizontal or upside down.
  • Reply 45 of 75
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by stelligent View Post


    Methinks that photo has been 'shopped. Tim's natural smile is either perfectly horizontal or upside down.







  • Reply 46 of 75
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    Originally Posted by Rot'nApple View Post


    Apple's lawyer should reply to the fourth charge regarding the emoticon suit with ":-(" and "III" (read between the lines)...

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    Hmmm.... Somehow, iIi see more appropriate.
  • Reply 47 of 75
    hill60hill60 Posts: 6,991member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by F1Ferrari View Post


    When I send a text from my iPhone to my wife's iPhone, ': )' doesn't automatically become a . The same for emails from iPhone to iPhone.



    What Apple device does this so that it's infringing upon Samsung's patent?



    It doesn't do it on an iPad either.



    This should be interesting, it takes a few seconds to show that iOS devices don't use this method.



    They do use emoji which is part of the Japanese keyboard but that seems to use a different method.
  • Reply 48 of 75
    Does Samsung have any patent at all? We all know Apple invented everything in the mobile phone market. All the others are mere copycats with not enough brains to create anything.
  • Reply 49 of 75
    galbigalbi Posts: 968member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Blitz1 View Post


    Does Samsung have any patent at all? We all know Apple invented everything in the mobile phone market. All the others are mere copycats with not enough brains to create anything.



    I hope your not serious.



    Quote:



    Top 10 U.S. Patent Winners of 2010:



    1) IBM 5,896

    2) Samsung 4,551

    3) Microsoft 3,094

    4) Canon 2,552

    5) Panasonic 2,482

    6) Toshiba Corp. 2,246

    7) Sony Corp. 2,150

    8) Intel Corp. 1,653

    9) LG Electronics Inc. 1,490

    10) Hewlett-Packard Co. 1,480



    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-0...s-in-2010.html



    Do I see Apple on that list? Nope.



    That is to all those on here who say "Samsung dont innovate" there is your proof that they do.





    In fact, Samsung has been on the top 10 list for the past 13 years (except for 2002)





    Quote:

    2010



    5866 patents to IBM, headquartered in Armonk, New York

    4518 patents to Samsung Electronics Co., headquartered in Daegu, Korea

    3086 patents to Microsoft Corporation, headquartered in Redmond,_Washington,

    2551 patents to Canon Kabushiki Kaisha, headquartered in Tokyo, Japan

    2443 patents to Matsushita Electric Industrial Co., Ltd., headquartered in Kadoma, Osaka, Japan

    2212 patents to Toshiba Corporation, headquartered in Tokyo, Japan

    2130 patents to Sony Corporation, headquartered in Tokyo, Japan

    1652 patents to Intel Corporation, headquartered in Santa Clara, California

    1488 patents to LG ELECTRONICS INC., headquartered in Seoul, Korea

    1480 patents to Hewlett-Packard, headquartered in Palo Alto, California



    2009




    4887 patents to IBM, headquartered in Armonk, New York

    3592 patents to Samsung Electronics Co., headquartered in Daegu, Korea

    2901 patents to Microsoft Corporation, headquartered in Redmond,_Washington,

    2200 patents to Canon Kabushiki Kaisha, headquartered in Tokyo, Japan

    1759 patents to Matsushita Electric Industrial Co., Ltd., headquartered in Kadoma, Osaka, Japan

    1669 patents to Toshiba Corporation, headquartered in Tokyo, Japan

    1656 patents to Sony Corporation, headquartered in Tokyo, Japan

    1534 patents to Intel Corporation, headquartered in Santa Clara, California

    1328 patents to SEIKO EPSON CORPORATION

    1269 patents to Hewlett-Packard, headquartered in Palo Alto, California



    2008



    4169 patents to IBM, headquartered in Armonk, New York

    3502 patents to Samsung Electronics Co., headquartered in Daegu, Korea

    2107 patents to Canon Kabushiki Kaisha, headquartered in Tokyo, Japan

    2026 patents to Microsoft Corporation

    1772 patents to Intel Corporation, headquartered in Santa Clara, California

    1575 patents to Toshiba Corporation, headquartered in Tokyo

    1475 patents to Fujitsu Limited, headquartered in Tokyo

    1469 patents to Matsushita Electric Industrial Co., Ltd., headquartered in Kadoma, Osaka, Japan

    1461 patents to Sony Corporation

    1422 patents to Hewlett-Packard, headquartered in Palo Alto, California



    2007




    3125 patents to IBM, headquartered in Armonk, New York, USA

    2723 patents to Samsung Electronics Co., headquartered in Daegu, Korea

    1983 patents to Canon Kabushiki Kaisha, headquartered in Tokyo, Japan

    1910 patents to Matsushita Electric Industrial Co., Ltd., headquartered in Kadoma, Osaka, Japan

    1864 patents to Intel Corporation, headquartered in Santa Clara, California

    1637 patents to Microsoft Corporation

    1519 patents to Toshiba Corporation, headquartered in Tokyo

    1476 patents to Micron Technology, headquartered in Boise, Idaho

    1466 patents to Hewlett-Packard, headquartered in Palo Alto, California

    1455 patents to Sony Corporation



    2006



    3621 patents to IBM, headquartered in Armonk, New York

    2451 patents to Samsung Electronics Co., headquartered in Daegu, Korea

    2366 patents to Canon Kabushiki Kaisha, headquartered in Tokyo, Japan

    2229 patents to Matsushita Electric Industrial Co., Ltd., headquartered in Kadoma, Osaka, Japan

    2099 patents to Hewlett-Packard, headquartered in Palo Alto, California

    1959 patents to Intel Corporation, headquartered in Santa Clara, California

    1771 patents to Sony Corporation

    1732 patents to Hitachi, Ltd., headquartered in Tokyo

    1672 patents to Toshiba Corporation, headquartered in Tokyo

    1610 patents to Micron Technology, headquartered in Boise, Idaho, USA



    2005



    2941 patents to IBM, headquartered in Armonk, New York, USA

    1828 patents to Canon Kabushiki Kaisha, headquartered in Tokyo, Japan

    1797 patents to Hewlett-Packard, headquartered in Palo Alto, California, USA

    1688 patents to Matsushita Electric Industrial Co., Ltd., headquartered in Kadoma, Osaka, Japan

    1641 patents to Samsung Electronics Co., headquartered in Daegu, Korea

    1561 patents to Micron Technology, headquartered in Boise, Idaho

    1549 patents to Intel Corporation, headquartered in Santa Clara, California

    1271 patents to Hitachi, Ltd., headquartered in Tokyo

    1258 patents to Toshiba Corporation, headquartered in Tokyo

    1154 patents to Fujitsu Limited, headquartered in Tokyo



    2004



    3248 patents to IBM

    1934 patents to Matsushita Electric Industrial Co., Ltd.

    1805 patents to Canon Kabushiki Kaisha

    1775 patents to Hewlett-Packard

    1760 patents to Micron Technology

    1604 patents to Samsung Electronics Co.


    1601 patents to Intel Corporation

    1514 patents to Hitachi, Ltd.

    1310 patents to Toshiba Corporation

    1305 patents to Sony Corporation



    2003



    3415 patents to IBM

    1992 patents to Canon Kabushiki Kaisha

    1893 patents to Hitachi, Ltd.

    1786 patents to Matsushita Electric Industrial Co.

    1759 patents to Hewlett-Packard

    1707 patents to Micron Technology

    1592 patents to Intel Corporation

    1353 patents to Royal Philips Electronics

    1313 patents to Samsung Electronics Co.

    1311 patents to Sony Corporation



    2002



    IBM

    Canon Kabushiki Kaisha

    Micron Technology

    NEC Corporation

    Hitachi, Ltd.

    Matsushita Electric Industrial Co.

    Sony Corporation

    General Electric Company

    Hewlett-Packard

    Mitsubishi Denki K.K.



    2001



    IBM

    NEC Corporation

    Canon Kabushiki Kaisha

    Micron Technology

    Samsung Electronics

    Matsushita Electric Industrial Co.

    Sony Corporation

    Hitachi, Ltd.

    Mitsubishi Denki K.K

    Fujitsu, headquartered in Tokyo



    2000



    IBM

    NEC Corporation

    Canon Kabushiki Kaisha

    Samsung Electronics

    Lucent Technologies

    Sony Corporation

    Micron Technology

    Toshiba

    Motorola

    Fujitsu



    1999



    IBM

    NEC Corporation

    Canon Kabushiki Kaisha

    Samsung Electronics

    Sony Corporation

    Toshiba

    Fujitsu

    Motorola

    Lucent Technologies

    Mitsubishi Denki K.K.



    1998



    IBM

    Canon Kabushiki Kaisha

    NEC Corporation

    Motorola

    Sony Corporation

    Samsung Electronics

    Fujitsu

    Toshiba

    Eastman Kodak Co.

    Hitachi, Ltd.





    I dont see Apple on ANY of that list.
  • Reply 50 of 75
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Galbi View Post


    I hope your not serious.







    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-0...s-in-2010.html



    Do I see Apple on that list? Nope.



    That is to all those on here who say "Samsung dont innovate" there is your proof that they do.





    In fact, Samsung has been on the top 10 list for the past 13 years (except for 2002)









    I dont see Apple on ANY of that list.




    How many of these are for rounded rectangles?
  • Reply 51 of 75
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Blitz1 View Post


    Does Samsung have any patent at all? We all know Apple invented everything in the mobile phone market. All the others are mere copycats with not enough brains to create anything.



    Samsung? Who is that again?



  • Reply 52 of 75
    blitz1blitz1 Posts: 412member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Galbi View Post


    I hope your not serious.







    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-0...s-in-2010.html



    Do I see Apple on that list? Nope.



    That is to all those on here who say "Samsung dont innovate" there is your proof that they do.





    In fact, Samsung has been on the top 10 list for the past 13 years (except for 2002)









    I dont see Apple on ANY of that list.




    Frankly, I don't care.

    It's not about the quantity, it's the quality and the pertinence that matters.

    Who cares about IP, CDMA, GPRS, LTE, ... when we all know that it's the curve in the rounded corner that really matters, or the fact that the display is actually centered on the iPad. These are the stuff that people care about, not the antenna workings, not the encryption technology of the transmitted data, ...

    Please keep your eye on the ball iso talking BS.
  • Reply 53 of 75
    hill60hill60 Posts: 6,991member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Blitz1 View Post


    Frankly, I don't care.

    It's not about the quantity, it's the quality and the pertinence that matters.

    Who cares about IP, CDMA, GPRS, LTE, ... when we all know that it's the curve in the rounded corner that really matters, or the fact that the display is actually centered on the iPad. These are the stuff that people care about, not the antenna workings, not the encryption technology of the transmitted data, ...

    Please keep your eye on the ball iso talking BS.



    You left out the bits about washing machine detergent dispensing, microwave oven platter spinning, refrigerator door opening, proprietary home theatre system plugs, shipbuilding, heavy engineering or any of the myriad of other things Samsung is involved in.



    Which brings us to the point, how many of that long list of Samsung's patents are actually pertinent to mobile phones, tablets, PC's or other areas that Apple is involved in.
  • Reply 54 of 75
    Oh hell, IF we must measure great products but the number of patents issue per year....I hope that is a joke. All the great inventors are only known for a few great inventions not a gazillion half-baked patents that only sounds good on paper.
  • Reply 55 of 75
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 20,711member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by hill60 View Post


    You left out the bits about washing machine detergent dispensing, microwave oven platter spinning, refrigerator door opening, proprietary home theatre system plugs, shipbuilding, heavy engineering or any of the myriad of other things Samsung is involved in.



    Which brings us to the point, how many of that long list of Samsung's patents are actually pertinent to mobile phones, tablets, PC's or other areas that Apple is involved in.



    I don't think any of us know. What should be clear is that Samsung appears to innovate in areas where they believe they can invent/create new features and products or improve existing ones, using them to gain a market advantage with their patented ideas. With some of their unique mobile developments being adopted as industry standards in year's past they apparently were "innovators" in mobile at some point. Perhaps it has their attention again.
  • Reply 56 of 75
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Techboy View Post


    Oh hell, IF we must measure great products but the number of patents issue per year....I hope that is a joke. All the great inventors are only known for a few great inventions not a gazillion half-baked patents that only sounds good on paper.



    Ever heard of Da Vinci?
  • Reply 57 of 75
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by hill60 View Post


    You left out the bits about washing machine detergent dispensing, microwave oven platter spinning, refrigerator door opening, proprietary home theatre system plugs, shipbuilding, heavy engineering or any of the myriad of other things Samsung is involved in.



    Which brings us to the point, how many of that long list of Samsung's patents are actually pertinent to mobile phones, tablets, PC's or other areas that Apple is involved in.



    Well, apparently at least a handful that Apple has either infringed or might have infringed.
  • Reply 58 of 75
    Analysis: Legal patent system train has complete derailed.....



    Who in their right mind would ever grant these type of stupid patents????
  • Reply 59 of 75
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by sranger View Post


    Analysis: Legal patent system train has complete derailed.....



    Who in their right mind would ever grant these type of stupid patents????



    Well, it seems that even rounded rectangles can get patented.
  • Reply 60 of 75
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Blitz1 View Post


    Well, it seems that even rounded rectangles can get patented.



    Even though I mock the rectangle thingie from time to time, reality is that the Apple's patents are not premised on rounded rectangles per se. There is more to the design patents than just that.
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