But of course... Seriously though, can you elaborate more on what you enjoy about it, what's valuable, and what apps you use? I'm not mocking, like I said I am beginning iPad development so I don't have time to surf Android sites. Please elaborate on the Fire and does the Tab 10.1 have Honeycomb? Are the book formats for the Fire basically ePub or other stuff? How hard is it to port Android apps to Fire apps?
It's DaHarder who's posting. Dd you perchance miss that?
- The size/form-factor is pretty ideal for reading/media consumption, and the device's dual-core SoC performs very well no matter the task/app.
- For me, the Kindle Fire's 'value' comes from the fact that for a device so inexpensive yet sacrifices very little in the way of build-quality, screen clarity or performance when compared with any modern tablet device, and both books and magazine subscriptions are very nicely priced.
- I use all manner of different apps, from light gaming (e;g Cut The Rope, Angry Birds, etc) to web surfing, to Netflix, to HuLu Plus, to lengthy reading sessions of both books and magazines.
- No... The Kindle Fire does not run proprietary apps, and every app that is available in the Amazon Appstore the same as the same title found in the Android App Store, as it is (in fact) an Android tablet. NOTE: I even read my NOOK app subscriptions on my Kindle Fire perfectly.
Translation:
"The screen clarity, build quality, and performance are not as good as the competition, it doesn't run many apps, and there's nothing impressive about it at all, but it was cheap."
That's one of the things that's missed in the customer satisfaction question. Users will always judge satisfaction compared to their expectations. So 54% of Fire users were very satisfied, knowing that they were buying a cheap, cut rate device. 74% of iPad users were vary satisfied when they were expecting a top of the line, premium device. That is, the iPad users expected more than the Fire users, so being 'very satisfied' means more in the case of the iPad. The differences are therefore much greater than the numbers indicate.
This comment alone tells me that the Kindle Fire is doomed.
DaHarder said the same thing about the 7 inch Galaxy Tab (you know the one, 3 each - sales were smooth)... and we all know how that turned out.
Oh yeah, he's probably the only person in the world that was touting Honeycomb as being better than iOS on the iPad. He's not really the go-to guy for objective info when comparing to Apple products.
it's a survey of 2607 people, in north america, taken from a fixed, profoundly skewed, population...
"This is accomplished through a weekly series of large sample surveys to its network of 25,000 accredited business and technology professionals, and early-adopter consumers, working in more than 20 industries."
...hmm, well that's going to produce results similar to the general population isn't it, oh noes, hang on, that's not right is it
for the benefit of the hard of understanding who think amazon is doomed based on only 29% saying they'll spend more, you've got it wrong...
"Research firm ChangeWave conducted a survey in January of over 2,600 North American consumers and learned that, on average, 20 percent of online shoppers plan to spend more money on Amazon.com in the next 90 days. Among Kindle Fire owners, which reached 6 percent of respondents, that number rose to 29 percent, while non-Kindle Fire owners averaged 19 percent."
...it's saying, kindle fire owners are over 52% more likely to spend more money with amazon than non-owners, that sounds pretty good for amazon
but given the likely distortion caused by the skewed population it might as well claim that buying a kindle fire makes you fly, you understand the speech of animals, and your car disappears
there's nothing in this survey worth wasting any more time on
I am curious as to the change in likelihood to buy between Kindle Fire owners and iPad owners with the Amazon app installed.
Certainly it is easier to purchase Kindle content and movies. But I know I purchase a LOT from Amazon on my iOS devices... it's so simple. The best is going to Target, scanning the barcode, finding it cheaper on Amazon, and then one-click buying and having it shipped via 2-Day service whilst IN Target.
Since Amazon's core strategy is the sales of content, and the Kindle Fire is only a method of facilitating easy purchasing of digital content (which is difficult on iOS devices do to Apple's 30% cut and Amazon refusing to offer support), I wonder if Amazon would have been better off focusing on iOS users if Apple had removed or reduced their 30% cut.
It would be interesting if the Kindle Fire was in actuality of a response influenced by Apple's 30% policy.
You would think if Amazon was allowed to sell content on the iPad in the exact manner as on the Kindle Fire (certainly possible) and make the same profit (impossible due to the 30% cut), it would make more sense for Amazon to stick to its core business and enjoy a symbiotic relationship with Apple without all the risk selling hardware entails.
But of course... Seriously though, can you elaborate more on what you enjoy about it, what's valuable, and what apps you use? I'm not mocking, like I said I am beginning iPad development so I don't have time to surf Android sites. Please elaborate on the Fire and does the Tab 10.1 have Honeycomb? Are the book formats for the Fire basically ePub or other stuff? How hard is it to port Android apps to Fire apps?
I bought my daughter one and she loves it. The number one thing for her is the size. She can slip it into her purse and take it anywhere with out issue. She is 14 years old and only wanted the ability to surf, read, email and Facebook, this provides all that and more and a fraction of the cost.
"The screen clarity, build quality, and performance are not as good as the competition, it doesn't run many apps, and there's nothing impressive about it at all, but it was cheap."
That's one of the things that's missed in the customer satisfaction question. Users will always judge satisfaction compared to their expectations. So 54% of Fire users were very satisfied, knowing that they were buying a cheap, cut rate device. 74% of iPad users were vary satisfied when they were expecting a top of the line, premium device. That is, the iPad users expected more than the Fire users, so being 'very satisfied' means more in the case of the iPad. The differences are therefore much greater than the numbers indicate.
Wow, I didn't get that at all. I will break the news too you, I know several Fire owners and none of them feel the "settled" when purchasing it, including myself. Your analysis is FUD at best. At 2x the price, iPad owners should be 108% very satisfied. I have two iPads that freely sit around my house for all to use, my daughter has a Fire and I have yet seen her put the Fire down and reach for the iPad, it does precisely what she wants and needs without fail, NETFLIX, HULU+, Facebook ect..... I have first hand knowledge of this and personally own one, what do you base your comments on?
Oh yeah, he's probably the only person in the world that was touting Honeycomb as being better than iOS on the iPad. He's not really the go-to guy for objective info when comparing to Apple products.
And I would argue most people on this site aren't either, at least in terms of objectivity. I don't have a Kindle Fire, but I do have a Kindle touch that I much prefer over my iPad when I am actually reading. Apple doesn't have to rule everything, and other companies have smart, capable people making great, viable products.
I am curious as to the change in likelihood to buy between Kindle Fire owners and iPad owners with the Amazon app installed.
Certainly it is easier to purchase Kindle content and movies. But I know I purchase a LOT from Amazon on my iOS devices... it's so simple. The best is going to Target, scanning the barcode, finding it cheaper on Amazon, and then one-click buying and having it shipped via 2-Day service whilst IN Target.
Since Amazon's core strategy is the sales of content, and the Kindle Fire is only a method of facilitating easy purchasing of digital content (which is difficult on iOS devices do to Apple's 30% cut and Amazon refusing to offer support), I wonder if Amazon would have been better off focusing on iOS users if Apple had removed or reduced their 30% cut.
It would be interesting if the Kindle Fire was in actuality of a response influenced by Apple's 30% policy.
You would think if Amazon was allowed to sell content on the iPad in the exact manner as on the Kindle Fire (certainly possible) and make the same profit (impossible due to the 30% cut), it would make more sense for Amazon to stick to its core business and enjoy a symbiotic relationship with Apple without all the risk selling hardware entails.
Purchasing content on the Fire is insanely easy and dangerous. One click is great but in the hands of a teenager I had to lay down the ground rules. Amazon does not have any type of filter system in place so it is easy to spend spend spend. I am a Prime member and the Prime content is awesome, all the free content is nice and easy to get.
It's DaHarder who's posting. Dd you perchance miss that?
Which has absolutely nothing to the specific questions asked by nvidia2008, and if you have no ownership experience with the device in question, you'd do well to just sit back and learn rather than jumping in to the discussion with your inane trolling.
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
Oh yeah, he's probably the only person in the world that was touting Honeycomb as being better than iOS on the iPad. He's not really the go-to guy for objective info when comparing to Apple products.
Maybe if you keep posting this blatantly false statement, you'll one day believe it, but I challenge you to find the post in which I made that exact comment... Prove it Or Just Stop Lying.
Regardless... For those who desire the degree of UI customization that Android 3.x affords, it's obviously the better choice.
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Originally Posted by jragosta
Translation:
"The screen clarity, build quality, and performance are not as good as the competition, it doesn't run many apps, and there's nothing impressive about it at all, but it was cheap."
That's your misguided 'translation', as I posted exactly what I meant, and meant exactly what I posted as requested by nvidia2008, sans your brand-biased/fanatical input/intervention.
Anyway... Really enjoying my Kindle Fire, consider it one of the most user-friendly and value laden device I've ever owned.
So there's a fundamental problem with this survey. Many of the Kindle Fires were probably given as gifts since it was the holiday season they were first sold in. That would mean those that received them might not have really wanted them in the first place. I gave my parents (both over 80 years in age) a Kindle last February. It was inexpensive enough to give as a gift like the Kindle Fire. They use it once in a while but only load free content when they do use it. I suspect that's a common theme.
I have a Kindle Fire and I am highly satisfied with it because I knew why I was purchasing it - for entertainment purposes only. It was not bought to be a laptop replacement nor a productivity tool. Anyone who thought otherwise will be sadly disappointed. I have purchased a lot of content from Amazon and plan to continue to do so. When I go to replace my Macbook I may consider an iPad or two instead. I really like the Macbook Air so my purchasing an iPad may not happen real soon after all.
- For me, the Kindle Fire's 'value' comes from the fact that for a device so inexpensive yet sacrifices very little in the way of build-quality, screen clarity or performance when compared with any modern tablet device, and both books and magazine subscriptions are very nicely priced.
Every review I've read of the Fire complains about sluggish performance and poor screen quality. Do you feel these reviewers are wrong?
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- I use all manner of different apps, from light gaming (e;g Cut The Rope, Angry Birds, etc) to web surfing, to Netflix, to HuLu Plus, to lengthy reading sessions of both books and magazines.
The Fires web browser has been reviewed as being quite poor - are you just putting up with that, or are these reviewers wrong again?
Quote:
- No... The Kindle Fire does not run proprietary apps, and every app that is available in the Amazon Appstore the same as the same title found in the Android App Store, as it is (in fact) an Android tablet. NOTE: I even read my NOOK app subscriptions on my Kindle Fire perfectly.
"Proprietary?" I thought Android apps were just that - apps to run on Android. Each app needs to be written and published a second time in order to appear on the Fires app store? Is this an Android tablet or not? Because it sounds like Android is very fragmented, just as was predicted years ago.
Nothing here to indicate the Fire has anything over the iPad than being cheaper in price. If that and the ability to play Angry Birds is you're only metric then I guess it's okay to put up with, but as usual I'll pay a premium for a better quality product.
for the benefit of the hard of understanding who think amazon is doomed based on only 29% saying they'll spend more, you've got it wrong...
"Research firm ChangeWave conducted a survey in January of over 2,600 North American consumers and learned that, on average, 20 percent of online shoppers plan to spend more money on Amazon.com in the next 90 days. Among Kindle Fire owners, which reached 6 percent of respondents, that number rose to 29 percent, while non-Kindle Fire owners averaged 19 percent."
...it's saying, kindle fire owners are over 52% more likely to spend more money with amazon than non-owners, that sounds pretty good for amazon
Yes, but that's not the issue.
AMZN is (by all reports) selling the Fire at a loss. Even the most optimistic people claim that they might be breaking even on the Fire itself. So AMZN has to recover the losses on the Fire (if any) plus obtain a return on their $200 investment sufficient to justify the program.
Using your own figures, 19% of the people who do NOT have a Fire plan to spend money at Amazon. 29% of the people who do have a Fire plan to do so. So Amazon is getting incremental revenue from only 10% of the people who bought a Fire. Unless those people are spending many hundreds or thousands of dollars each, Amazon loses.
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Originally Posted by Hellacool
Wow, I didn't get that at all. I will break the news too you, I know several Fire owners and none of them feel the "settled" when purchasing it, including myself. Your analysis is FUD at best. At 2x the price, iPad owners should be 108% very satisfied. I have two iPads that freely sit around my house for all to use, my daughter has a Fire and I have yet seen her put the Fire down and reach for the iPad, it does precisely what she wants and needs without fail, NETFLIX, HULU+, Facebook ect..... I have first hand knowledge of this and personally own one, what do you base your comments on?
So who to believe? You - or the hundreds of reviews, almost every one of which says that the Fire is vastly inferior to the iPad plus the thousands of reports from people who own them and say that the Fire is vastly inferior?
Every review I've read of the Fire complains about sluggish performance and poor screen quality. Do you feel these reviewers are wrong?
The Fires web browser has been reviewed as being quite poor - are you just putting up with that, or are these reviewers wrong again?
"Proprietary?" I thought Android apps were just that - apps to run on Android. Each app needs to be written and published a second time in order to appear on the Fires app store? Is this an Android tablet or not? Because it sounds like Android is very fragmented, just as was predicted years ago.
Nothing here to indicate the Fire has anything over the iPad than being cheaper in price. If that and the ability to play Angry Birds is you're only metric then I guess it's okay to put up with, but as usual I'll pay a premium for a better quality product.
First: Your name is NOT nvidia2008, who happens to be the individual asking me the questions for which I provided answers based upon my ownership of the device.
Second: Never once was I asked to make a comparison between my Kindle Fire and my iPad/iPad2, so I merely provided answers (again) based upon my ownership of the device i.e. my Kindle Fire
Third: nvidia2008 specifically asked, "how hard is it to port Android apps to Fire apps", to which I responded by informing him that, "The Kindle Fire does not run proprietary apps, and every app that is available in the Amazon Appstore the same as the same title found in the Android App Store"... Which they are.
Friendly Suggestion: Please take the time to understand the context of a post before responding with such contrary nonsense.
I bought my daughter one and she loves it. The number one thing for her is the size. She can slip it into her purse and take it anywhere with out issue. She is 14 years old and only wanted the ability to surf, read, email and Facebook, this provides all that and more and a fraction of the cost.
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But of course...
It's DaHarder who's posting. Dd you perchance miss that?
- The size/form-factor is pretty ideal for reading/media consumption, and the device's dual-core SoC performs very well no matter the task/app.
- For me, the Kindle Fire's 'value' comes from the fact that for a device so inexpensive yet sacrifices very little in the way of build-quality, screen clarity or performance when compared with any modern tablet device, and both books and magazine subscriptions are very nicely priced.
- I use all manner of different apps, from light gaming (e;g Cut The Rope, Angry Birds, etc) to web surfing, to Netflix, to HuLu Plus, to lengthy reading sessions of both books and magazines.
- No... The Kindle Fire does not run proprietary apps, and every app that is available in the Amazon Appstore the same as the same title found in the Android App Store, as it is (in fact) an Android tablet. NOTE: I even read my NOOK app subscriptions on my Kindle Fire perfectly.
Translation:
"The screen clarity, build quality, and performance are not as good as the competition, it doesn't run many apps, and there's nothing impressive about it at all, but it was cheap."
That's one of the things that's missed in the customer satisfaction question. Users will always judge satisfaction compared to their expectations. So 54% of Fire users were very satisfied, knowing that they were buying a cheap, cut rate device. 74% of iPad users were vary satisfied when they were expecting a top of the line, premium device. That is, the iPad users expected more than the Fire users, so being 'very satisfied' means more in the case of the iPad. The differences are therefore much greater than the numbers indicate.
Anyway... Really enjoying my Kindle Fire, consider it one of the most user-friendly and value laden device I've ever owned.
This comment alone tells me that the Kindle Fire is doomed.
DaHarder said the same thing about the 7 inch Galaxy Tab (you know the one, 3 each - sales were smooth)... and we all know how that turned out.
This comment alone tells me that the Kindle Fire is doomed.
DaHarder said the same thing about the 7 inch Galaxy Tab (you know the one, 3 each - sales were smooth)... and we all know how that turned out.
Oh yeah, he's probably the only person in the world that was touting Honeycomb as being better than iOS on the iPad. He's not really the go-to guy for objective info when comparing to Apple products.
"This is accomplished through a weekly series of large sample surveys to its network of 25,000 accredited business and technology professionals, and early-adopter consumers, working in more than 20 industries."
...hmm, well that's going to produce results similar to the general population isn't it, oh noes, hang on, that's not right is it
for the benefit of the hard of understanding who think amazon is doomed based on only 29% saying they'll spend more, you've got it wrong...
"Research firm ChangeWave conducted a survey in January of over 2,600 North American consumers and learned that, on average, 20 percent of online shoppers plan to spend more money on Amazon.com in the next 90 days. Among Kindle Fire owners, which reached 6 percent of respondents, that number rose to 29 percent, while non-Kindle Fire owners averaged 19 percent."
...it's saying, kindle fire owners are over 52% more likely to spend more money with amazon than non-owners, that sounds pretty good for amazon
but given the likely distortion caused by the skewed population it might as well claim that buying a kindle fire makes you fly, you understand the speech of animals, and your car disappears
there's nothing in this survey worth wasting any more time on
for the benefit of the hard of understanding who think amazon is doomed based on only 29% saying they'll spend more, you've got it wrong...
Huh? What?!
I must have missed something.
Did someone in this thread think that Amazon was doomed??
Hmmmm... must reread thread...
Certainly it is easier to purchase Kindle content and movies. But I know I purchase a LOT from Amazon on my iOS devices... it's so simple. The best is going to Target, scanning the barcode, finding it cheaper on Amazon, and then one-click buying and having it shipped via 2-Day service whilst IN Target.
Since Amazon's core strategy is the sales of content, and the Kindle Fire is only a method of facilitating easy purchasing of digital content (which is difficult on iOS devices do to Apple's 30% cut and Amazon refusing to offer support), I wonder if Amazon would have been better off focusing on iOS users if Apple had removed or reduced their 30% cut.
It would be interesting if the Kindle Fire was in actuality of a response influenced by Apple's 30% policy.
You would think if Amazon was allowed to sell content on the iPad in the exact manner as on the Kindle Fire (certainly possible) and make the same profit (impossible due to the 30% cut), it would make more sense for Amazon to stick to its core business and enjoy a symbiotic relationship with Apple without all the risk selling hardware entails.
But of course...
I bought my daughter one and she loves it. The number one thing for her is the size. She can slip it into her purse and take it anywhere with out issue. She is 14 years old and only wanted the ability to surf, read, email and Facebook, this provides all that and more and a fraction of the cost.
Translation:
"The screen clarity, build quality, and performance are not as good as the competition, it doesn't run many apps, and there's nothing impressive about it at all, but it was cheap."
That's one of the things that's missed in the customer satisfaction question. Users will always judge satisfaction compared to their expectations. So 54% of Fire users were very satisfied, knowing that they were buying a cheap, cut rate device. 74% of iPad users were vary satisfied when they were expecting a top of the line, premium device. That is, the iPad users expected more than the Fire users, so being 'very satisfied' means more in the case of the iPad. The differences are therefore much greater than the numbers indicate.
Wow, I didn't get that at all. I will break the news too you, I know several Fire owners and none of them feel the "settled" when purchasing it, including myself. Your analysis is FUD at best. At 2x the price, iPad owners should be 108% very satisfied. I have two iPads that freely sit around my house for all to use, my daughter has a Fire and I have yet seen her put the Fire down and reach for the iPad, it does precisely what she wants and needs without fail, NETFLIX, HULU+, Facebook ect..... I have first hand knowledge of this and personally own one, what do you base your comments on?
Oh yeah, he's probably the only person in the world that was touting Honeycomb as being better than iOS on the iPad. He's not really the go-to guy for objective info when comparing to Apple products.
And I would argue most people on this site aren't either, at least in terms of objectivity. I don't have a Kindle Fire, but I do have a Kindle touch that I much prefer over my iPad when I am actually reading. Apple doesn't have to rule everything, and other companies have smart, capable people making great, viable products.
I am curious as to the change in likelihood to buy between Kindle Fire owners and iPad owners with the Amazon app installed.
Certainly it is easier to purchase Kindle content and movies. But I know I purchase a LOT from Amazon on my iOS devices... it's so simple. The best is going to Target, scanning the barcode, finding it cheaper on Amazon, and then one-click buying and having it shipped via 2-Day service whilst IN Target.
Since Amazon's core strategy is the sales of content, and the Kindle Fire is only a method of facilitating easy purchasing of digital content (which is difficult on iOS devices do to Apple's 30% cut and Amazon refusing to offer support), I wonder if Amazon would have been better off focusing on iOS users if Apple had removed or reduced their 30% cut.
It would be interesting if the Kindle Fire was in actuality of a response influenced by Apple's 30% policy.
You would think if Amazon was allowed to sell content on the iPad in the exact manner as on the Kindle Fire (certainly possible) and make the same profit (impossible due to the 30% cut), it would make more sense for Amazon to stick to its core business and enjoy a symbiotic relationship with Apple without all the risk selling hardware entails.
Purchasing content on the Fire is insanely easy and dangerous. One click is great but in the hands of a teenager I had to lay down the ground rules. Amazon does not have any type of filter system in place so it is easy to spend spend spend. I am a Prime member and the Prime content is awesome, all the free content is nice and easy to get.
Amazon does not have any type of filter system in place so it is easy to spend spend spend.
Well, when you virtually pay people to take something off your hands, you have to make up for it somehow.
It's DaHarder who's posting. Dd you perchance miss that?
Which has absolutely nothing to the specific questions asked by nvidia2008, and if you have no ownership experience with the device in question, you'd do well to just sit back and learn rather than jumping in to the discussion with your inane trolling.
Oh yeah, he's probably the only person in the world that was touting Honeycomb as being better than iOS on the iPad. He's not really the go-to guy for objective info when comparing to Apple products.
Maybe if you keep posting this blatantly false statement, you'll one day believe it, but I challenge you to find the post in which I made that exact comment... Prove it Or Just Stop Lying.
Regardless... For those who desire the degree of UI customization that Android 3.x affords, it's obviously the better choice.
Translation:
"The screen clarity, build quality, and performance are not as good as the competition, it doesn't run many apps, and there's nothing impressive about it at all, but it was cheap."
That's your misguided 'translation', as I posted exactly what I meant, and meant exactly what I posted as requested by nvidia2008, sans your brand-biased/fanatical input/intervention.
Anyway... Really enjoying my Kindle Fire, consider it one of the most user-friendly and value laden device I've ever owned.
I have a Kindle Fire and I am highly satisfied with it because I knew why I was purchasing it - for entertainment purposes only. It was not bought to be a laptop replacement nor a productivity tool. Anyone who thought otherwise will be sadly disappointed. I have purchased a lot of content from Amazon and plan to continue to do so. When I go to replace my Macbook I may consider an iPad or two instead. I really like the Macbook Air so my purchasing an iPad may not happen real soon after all.
- For me, the Kindle Fire's 'value' comes from the fact that for a device so inexpensive yet sacrifices very little in the way of build-quality, screen clarity or performance when compared with any modern tablet device, and both books and magazine subscriptions are very nicely priced.
Every review I've read of the Fire complains about sluggish performance and poor screen quality. Do you feel these reviewers are wrong?
- I use all manner of different apps, from light gaming (e;g Cut The Rope, Angry Birds, etc) to web surfing, to Netflix, to HuLu Plus, to lengthy reading sessions of both books and magazines.
The Fires web browser has been reviewed as being quite poor - are you just putting up with that, or are these reviewers wrong again?
- No... The Kindle Fire does not run proprietary apps, and every app that is available in the Amazon Appstore the same as the same title found in the Android App Store, as it is (in fact) an Android tablet. NOTE: I even read my NOOK app subscriptions on my Kindle Fire perfectly.
"Proprietary?" I thought Android apps were just that - apps to run on Android. Each app needs to be written and published a second time in order to appear on the Fires app store? Is this an Android tablet or not? Because it sounds like Android is very fragmented, just as was predicted years ago.
Nothing here to indicate the Fire has anything over the iPad than being cheaper in price. If that and the ability to play Angry Birds is you're only metric then I guess it's okay to put up with, but as usual I'll pay a premium for a better quality product.
for the benefit of the hard of understanding who think amazon is doomed based on only 29% saying they'll spend more, you've got it wrong...
"Research firm ChangeWave conducted a survey in January of over 2,600 North American consumers and learned that, on average, 20 percent of online shoppers plan to spend more money on Amazon.com in the next 90 days. Among Kindle Fire owners, which reached 6 percent of respondents, that number rose to 29 percent, while non-Kindle Fire owners averaged 19 percent."
...it's saying, kindle fire owners are over 52% more likely to spend more money with amazon than non-owners, that sounds pretty good for amazon
Yes, but that's not the issue.
AMZN is (by all reports) selling the Fire at a loss. Even the most optimistic people claim that they might be breaking even on the Fire itself. So AMZN has to recover the losses on the Fire (if any) plus obtain a return on their $200 investment sufficient to justify the program.
Using your own figures, 19% of the people who do NOT have a Fire plan to spend money at Amazon. 29% of the people who do have a Fire plan to do so. So Amazon is getting incremental revenue from only 10% of the people who bought a Fire. Unless those people are spending many hundreds or thousands of dollars each, Amazon loses.
Wow, I didn't get that at all. I will break the news too you, I know several Fire owners and none of them feel the "settled" when purchasing it, including myself. Your analysis is FUD at best. At 2x the price, iPad owners should be 108% very satisfied. I have two iPads that freely sit around my house for all to use, my daughter has a Fire and I have yet seen her put the Fire down and reach for the iPad, it does precisely what she wants and needs without fail, NETFLIX, HULU+, Facebook ect..... I have first hand knowledge of this and personally own one, what do you base your comments on?
So who to believe? You - or the hundreds of reviews, almost every one of which says that the Fire is vastly inferior to the iPad plus the thousands of reports from people who own them and say that the Fire is vastly inferior?
Has any breakdown of cost ever been confirmed by anybody?
There are price breakdowns of many products.... are they routinely challenged?
Whenever a new product is available... the guys at iFixIt and iSupply open them up and see what's inside.
If you know the parts that are in the device... it's not too hard to find out what those parts cost on the open market.
Sure... it's just an estimate... but it's in the ballpark.
Every review I've read of the Fire complains about sluggish performance and poor screen quality. Do you feel these reviewers are wrong?
The Fires web browser has been reviewed as being quite poor - are you just putting up with that, or are these reviewers wrong again?
"Proprietary?" I thought Android apps were just that - apps to run on Android. Each app needs to be written and published a second time in order to appear on the Fires app store? Is this an Android tablet or not? Because it sounds like Android is very fragmented, just as was predicted years ago.
Nothing here to indicate the Fire has anything over the iPad than being cheaper in price. If that and the ability to play Angry Birds is you're only metric then I guess it's okay to put up with, but as usual I'll pay a premium for a better quality product.
First: Your name is NOT nvidia2008, who happens to be the individual asking me the questions for which I provided answers based upon my ownership of the device.
Second: Never once was I asked to make a comparison between my Kindle Fire and my iPad/iPad2, so I merely provided answers (again) based upon my ownership of the device i.e. my Kindle Fire
Third: nvidia2008 specifically asked, "how hard is it to port Android apps to Fire apps", to which I responded by informing him that, "The Kindle Fire does not run proprietary apps, and every app that is available in the Amazon Appstore the same as the same title found in the Android App Store"... Which they are.
Friendly Suggestion: Please take the time to understand the context of a post before responding with such contrary nonsense.
I bought my daughter one and she loves it. The number one thing for her is the size. She can slip it into her purse and take it anywhere with out issue. She is 14 years old and only wanted the ability to surf, read, email and Facebook, this provides all that and more and a fraction of the cost.
Your 14-year-old daughter carries a purse?
Your 14-year-old daughter carries a purse?
Not the least bit surprising for any of us who have children...