What ever ist is, these guys should get some time to think in a local prison. Maybe with these corrupt judges as room mates.
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Originally Posted by hill60
...and Hong Kong is part of which country?
Obviously, Hong Kong is part of the People's Republic of China (Communist China) and not the Republic of China (Taiwan).
Interestingly, a Hong Kong court issued an order some time ago which forbade Proview from claiming ownership of the trademarks in question. Seems to me that Proview is in contempt of court - and could suffer pretty severe penalties for that.
Those who can bake pies do and those who love to eat it, should, but what of those who exist only to slice it, an activity that's ultimately antithetical to either creating or celebrating anything at all? This sort of endlessly protracted waste is the inevitable and ubiquitous consequence of accepting wealth as the primary purpose of existence, and nothing we should encourage, much less embrace.
Ultimately, it's the tedium required to live a life based on fear and greed that shocks me. What sort of people can tolerate, much less embrace, this kind of activity? It's sad, disturbing, and ultimately pathetic ? like reading about someone whose been buried alive under a thousand cats or a million moldering back issues of the New York Times.
However they're resolved, all lawsuits - like the wars they emulate - are first and foremost failures. A lawyer is to a productive human being what an undertaker is to a physician. When the former outnumber the latter, something is terribly, terribly wrong.
Those who can bake pies do and those who love to eat it, should, but what of those who exist only to slice it, an activity that's ultimately antithetical to either creating or celebrating anything at all? This sort of endlessly protracted waste is the inevitable and ubiquitous consequence of accepting wealth as the primary purpose of existence, and nothing we should encourage, much less embrace.
Ultimately, it's the tedium required to live a life based on fear and greed that shocks me. What sort of people can tolerate, much less embrace, this kind of activity? It's sad, disturbing, and ultimately pathetic ? like reading about someone whose been buried alive under a thousand cats or a million moldering back issues of the New York Times.
However they're resolved, all lawsuits - like the wars they emulate - are first and foremost failures. A lawyer is to a productive human being what an undertaker is to a physician. When the former outnumber the latter, something is terribly, terribly wrong.
I can't decide if you are auditioning for a role as Jesus or Frank Zappa. \
Well, I doubt if we even know 100%, or anything close to it, if Proview is in the right or in the wrong in this case.
I dunno. I haven't seen a single piece of reliable evidence that even hints at Apple being in the wrong or that anything Proview has said is true at all.
Proview has talked a lot of trash but they haven't actually provided any evidence AFAICS. Apple on the other hand has provided a few, simple, and as of yet uncontested documents that indicate that their point of view is the correct one.
Unless you are talking about the Zen kind of thing about how we can "never know anything for certain," the evidence is as clear as it can get IMO.
Talk about cut off your nose to spite your face. Someone better start bribing someone over there! Isn't the Apple plant in Brazil ready to go on line yet??
If their courts want to pass ridiculous judgements that hurt the interests of such a huge mega company doing business there, let's build Apple products in Brazil and California!!! I'd pay more to not be beholden to the Chinese.
Obviously, Hong Kong is part of the People's Republic of China (Communist China) and not the Republic of China (Taiwan).
Interestingly, a Hong Kong court issued an order some time ago which forbade Proview from claiming ownership of the trademarks in question. Seems to me that Proview is in contempt of court - and could suffer pretty severe penalties for that.
Hong Kong, of course, being one of the special economic/administrative zones, with privileges not available elsewhere in China.
Next time senior Apple guy meets with senior China guy, the former apologizes for his lack of a suitable gift to acknowledge the gracious presence of the latter, because Apple does not wish to cause the latter to break a possible Chinese law.
Apple, go get 'em! Smash them! Destroy the corrupt and criminal buggers!
I want to see them crushed to smithereens. Show no mercy, and then move in for the kill. Don't threaten to do something, just go ahead and squash those nasty little maggots already.
I dunno. I haven't seen a single piece of reliable evidence that even hints at Apple being in the wrong or that anything Proview has said is true at all.
Proview has talked a lot of trash but they haven't actually provided any evidence AFAICS. Apple on the other hand has provided a few, simple, and as of yet uncontested documents that indicate that their point of view is the correct one.
Unless you are talking about the Zen kind of thing about how we can "never know anything for certain," the evidence is as clear as it can get IMO.
You might not have seen it but that isn't to say the evidence isn't there.
Two courts have sided with Proview and a court in Honk Kong has sided with Apple.
Apple needs to get a hold of Big Brother and let him know there are 400,000 jobs at stake and may have to be moved to Brazil. At least there the judges operate with 'integrity' - meaning that when they accept a bribe, they follow through and deliver.
But how can a Chinese entity trademark anything in a foreign language?
I mean that would be like a big company in the China trademarking a series of Manderin characters, building said item in USA and exporting all over the world , and a USA company saying no we have the right to that name, HUH????
Also, The word "iPad" doesn't have an Chinese equivalent does it? by definiton it is they who are copying Apple right?
Do Chinese companies sell anything in China and use English words on the front?
I would say that the government wants [a judgement] in favor of Apple but at the same time they have to find a way to save face because there is a Formosa angle to the case.
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What ever ist is, these guys should get some time to think in a local prison. Maybe with these corrupt judges as room mates.
...and Hong Kong is part of which country?
Obviously, Hong Kong is part of the People's Republic of China (Communist China) and not the Republic of China (Taiwan).
Interestingly, a Hong Kong court issued an order some time ago which forbade Proview from claiming ownership of the trademarks in question. Seems to me that Proview is in contempt of court - and could suffer pretty severe penalties for that.
Ultimately, it's the tedium required to live a life based on fear and greed that shocks me. What sort of people can tolerate, much less embrace, this kind of activity? It's sad, disturbing, and ultimately pathetic ? like reading about someone whose been buried alive under a thousand cats or a million moldering back issues of the New York Times.
However they're resolved, all lawsuits - like the wars they emulate - are first and foremost failures. A lawyer is to a productive human being what an undertaker is to a physician. When the former outnumber the latter, something is terribly, terribly wrong.
Those who can bake pies do and those who love to eat it, should, but what of those who exist only to slice it, an activity that's ultimately antithetical to either creating or celebrating anything at all? This sort of endlessly protracted waste is the inevitable and ubiquitous consequence of accepting wealth as the primary purpose of existence, and nothing we should encourage, much less embrace.
Ultimately, it's the tedium required to live a life based on fear and greed that shocks me. What sort of people can tolerate, much less embrace, this kind of activity? It's sad, disturbing, and ultimately pathetic ? like reading about someone whose been buried alive under a thousand cats or a million moldering back issues of the New York Times.
However they're resolved, all lawsuits - like the wars they emulate - are first and foremost failures. A lawyer is to a productive human being what an undertaker is to a physician. When the former outnumber the latter, something is terribly, terribly wrong.
I can't decide if you are auditioning for a role as Jesus or Frank Zappa.
Well, I doubt if we even know 100%, or anything close to it, if Proview is in the right or in the wrong in this case.
I dunno. I haven't seen a single piece of reliable evidence that even hints at Apple being in the wrong or that anything Proview has said is true at all.
Proview has talked a lot of trash but they haven't actually provided any evidence AFAICS. Apple on the other hand has provided a few, simple, and as of yet uncontested documents that indicate that their point of view is the correct one.
Unless you are talking about the Zen kind of thing about how we can "never know anything for certain," the evidence is as clear as it can get IMO.
If their courts want to pass ridiculous judgements that hurt the interests of such a huge mega company doing business there, let's build Apple products in Brazil and California!!! I'd pay more to not be beholden to the Chinese.
Obviously, Hong Kong is part of the People's Republic of China (Communist China) and not the Republic of China (Taiwan).
Interestingly, a Hong Kong court issued an order some time ago which forbade Proview from claiming ownership of the trademarks in question. Seems to me that Proview is in contempt of court - and could suffer pretty severe penalties for that.
Hong Kong, of course, being one of the special economic/administrative zones, with privileges not available elsewhere in China.
Next time senior Apple guy meets with senior China guy, the former apologizes for his lack of a suitable gift to acknowledge the gracious presence of the latter, because Apple does not wish to cause the latter to break a possible Chinese law.
Cheers
I want to see them crushed to smithereens. Show no mercy, and then move in for the kill. Don't threaten to do something, just go ahead and squash those nasty little maggots already.
I dunno. I haven't seen a single piece of reliable evidence that even hints at Apple being in the wrong or that anything Proview has said is true at all.
Proview has talked a lot of trash but they haven't actually provided any evidence AFAICS. Apple on the other hand has provided a few, simple, and as of yet uncontested documents that indicate that their point of view is the correct one.
Unless you are talking about the Zen kind of thing about how we can "never know anything for certain," the evidence is as clear as it can get IMO.
You might not have seen it but that isn't to say the evidence isn't there.
Two courts have sided with Proview and a court in Honk Kong has sided with Apple.
Obviously the evidence isn't all that clear.
You might not have seen it but that isn't to say the evidence isn't there.
Two courts have sided with Proview and a court in Honk Kong has sided with Apple.
Obviously the evidence isn't all that clear.
After seeing those emails and contracts it seems pretty clear to my admittedly untrained eye.
After seeing those emails and contracts it seems pretty clear to my admittedly untrained eye.
Look at the contract again. Who is the seller?
Did that entity own the rights in China?
After seeing those emails and contracts it seems pretty clear to my admittedly untrained eye.
Sure... seems clear, but then again, I'm not the judge.
Sure... seems clear, but then again, I'm not the judge.
I'll be the judge of that.
But how can a Chinese entity trademark anything in a foreign language?
I mean that would be like a big company in the China trademarking a series of Manderin characters, building said item in USA and exporting all over the world , and a USA company saying no we have the right to that name, HUH????
Also, The word "iPad" doesn't have an Chinese equivalent does it? by definiton it is they who are copying Apple right?
Do Chinese companies sell anything in China and use English words on the front?
if so why?
I'll be the judge of that.
I would say that the government wants [a judgement] in favor of Apple but at the same time they have to find a way to save face because there is a Formosa angle to the case.
Excuse me for pointing out something obvious
But how can a Chinese entity trademark anything in a foreign language?
I mean that would be like someone here in the USA trademarking a series of Manderin chracters and dsiplaying on a item for sale, stooopid
The word "iPad" doesn't have an Chinese equivalent does it? by definiton it is they who are copying Apple right?
Do Chinese companies sell anything in China and use English words on the front?
if so why?
I don't know what, if anything, they trademarked in Mandarin but they clearly trademarked IPAD in English.
This potential lawsuit should shut the trash talking from ProView, down for a while.
Yes Zither and his ilk have been warned to tread vey carefully or they could face a suit for defamation
I don't what, if anything, they trademarked in Mandarin but they clearly trademarked IPAD in English.
Sorry to be picky, but can you trademark anything in Mandarin (as opposed to Chinese)?
Sorry to be picky, but can you trademark anything in Mandarin (as opposed to Chinese)?
I don't know what you mean by "opposed to Chinese".
Sorry to be picky, but can you trademark anything in Mandarin (as opposed to Chinese)?
Sorry to be picky, but Mandarin IS Chinese (at least, it's one of the two most commonly spoken languages in China).