A new policy to be applied to AT&T unlimited 3G and 4G data plans puts a cap on the amount of bandwidth users are allowed before being throttled, effectively bringing and end to truly 'unlimited' data use on the company's network.
AT&T was the first partner telecom to carry Apple's iPhone, and offered $30 unlimited data plans when the device rolled out in 2007.
AT&T only charged $20 per month for the unlimited data plan when iPhone (the original) came out, and it was grandfathered in at that price as well, just like the unlimited part of it, for that now old, Edge only iPhone. Anyway, point being, AT&T is taking more from us than even this article implies, relatively speaking.
AT&T only charged $20 per month for the unlimited data plan when iPhone (the original) came out, and it was grandfathered in at that price as well, just like the unlimited part of it, for that now old, Edge only iPhone. Anyway, point being, AT&T is taking more from us than even this article implies, relatively speaking.
They also didn't have to subsidize the cost of the device. It was a profit sharing model that allowed them to pay out small amounts to Apple each month for money already collected instead of a huge lump sum right after the month of the sale. This allows for AT&T's data plan to be far less than the industry which was charging up to 2 to 3x as much for unlimited data for EDGE speeds if I recall correctly.
It's rumoured that AT&T is the one that didn't want to end the profit sharing even though it was unwanted by most MNOs.
1) The contract clearly states in what way the service is unlimited.
2) The contract is designed to hold you accountable for the value of the service you agree to pay for. You can end it by paying the ETF fee and AT&T can end it at any time they want.
3) If a carrier forces a change that is not specified in the contract the contact is nullified. I've seen this before when companies were being bought out. This allows the customer to leave the carrier and keep the device, if they so choose, without a fear of penalty but it does not mean the carrier has to pay them anything for dissolving the contract as its for the carrier against the consumer who is getting several hundred dollars for free up front, in most cases.
I'm sorry, I'm going to have to ask you to stop talking until you can provide proof of your ABJECT NONSENSE.
There is no LTE iPhone. You cannot possibly know this. Therefore you are writing a hoax by stating "Not on an iPhone" as a response to the ability to use voice and data services simultaneously with LTE.
If "there is no LTE iPhone", then you certainly cannot "use voice and data services simultaneously with LTE" on an iPhone. So what he said is true.
And unless he was using speech to text technology, he was either "typing" or "posting", not "talking".
He's not a serious poster. He thinks he's being clever by posting what he thinks the ultimate Apple apologist would say. Best just to ignore him... or make him cry.
But if he is simply posting what Apple fans like to see posted, then what is the problem?
You cannot talk and surf the web at the same time with Verizon, and that ability is very important to iPhone users.
Maybe you weren't aware of that?
For example, if your wife calls you on your 25th Wedding Anniversary, and you had forgotten, you can make a dinner reservation online while you chat with her. Then you don't get in trouble.
With Verizon, you end up in the doghouse for the night, instead of enjoying sa delicious meal with your beloved.
1) The contract clearly states in what way the service is unlimited.
Yes, it does. It says nothing about throttling if you use too much.
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2) The contract is designed to hold you accountable for the value of the service you agree to pay for.
I honestly don't know what the hell that means.
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You can end it by paying the ETF fee and AT&T can end it at any time they want.
Irrelevant. The ability to end a contract does not mean AT&T gets to alter the terms after you sign it.
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3) If a carrier forces a change that is not specified in the contract the contact is nullified. I've seen this before when companies were being bought out. This allows the customer to leave the carrier and keep the device, if they so choose, without a fear of penalty but it does not mean the carrier has to pay them anything for dissolving the contract as its for the carrier against the consumer who is getting several hundred dollars for free up front, in most cases.
I've seen that as well. In this case, AT&T has allowed people who bought unlimited data plans to be grandfathered in...presumably because they had to. But the data is not unlimited. Downloads slow to near zero after one exceeds their cap. You are therefore paying for an unlimited data plan with a data limit.
A number of years ago, T-mobile Uk introduced a fair use policy on their unlimited tariff, after 3gb they limited your use to regular html traffic and email, blocking you-tube etc. In time this limit was dropped to 1.5gb.
Now though they have decided to backtrack and have done away with limits on their Full Monty package.
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A new policy to be applied to AT&T unlimited 3G and 4G data plans puts a cap on the amount of bandwidth users are allowed before being throttled, effectively bringing and end to truly 'unlimited' data use on the company's network.
AT&T was the first partner telecom to carry Apple's iPhone, and offered $30 unlimited data plans when the device rolled out in 2007.
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AT&T only charged $20 per month for the unlimited data plan when iPhone (the original) came out, and it was grandfathered in at that price as well, just like the unlimited part of it, for that now old, Edge only iPhone. Anyway, point being, AT&T is taking more from us than even this article implies, relatively speaking.
AT&T only charged $20 per month for the unlimited data plan when iPhone (the original) came out, and it was grandfathered in at that price as well, just like the unlimited part of it, for that now old, Edge only iPhone. Anyway, point being, AT&T is taking more from us than even this article implies, relatively speaking.
They also didn't have to subsidize the cost of the device. It was a profit sharing model that allowed them to pay out small amounts to Apple each month for money already collected instead of a huge lump sum right after the month of the sale. This allows for AT&T's data plan to be far less than the industry which was charging up to 2 to 3x as much for unlimited data for EDGE speeds if I recall correctly.
It's rumoured that AT&T is the one that didn't want to end the profit sharing even though it was unwanted by most MNOs.
Der AT&T: Get read for a class action suit for
Breach of contract
1) The contract clearly states in what way the service is unlimited.
2) The contract is designed to hold you accountable for the value of the service you agree to pay for. You can end it by paying the ETF fee and AT&T can end it at any time they want.
3) If a carrier forces a change that is not specified in the contract the contact is nullified. I've seen this before when companies were being bought out. This allows the customer to leave the carrier and keep the device, if they so choose, without a fear of penalty but it does not mean the carrier has to pay them anything for dissolving the contract as its for the carrier against the consumer who is getting several hundred dollars for free up front, in most cases.
Let the lawsuits begin, crush AT&T's stock price, then let Apple sweep in and buy them out. Why didn't I think of that...
And will Apple support all the other mobile devices currently supported by AT&T? Or will it be an Apple only network?
I'm sorry, I'm going to have to ask you to stop talking until you can provide proof of your ABJECT NONSENSE.
There is no LTE iPhone. You cannot possibly know this. Therefore you are writing a hoax by stating "Not on an iPhone" as a response to the ability to use voice and data services simultaneously with LTE.
If "there is no LTE iPhone", then you certainly cannot "use voice and data services simultaneously with LTE" on an iPhone. So what he said is true.
And unless he was using speech to text technology, he was either "typing" or "posting", not "talking".
He's not a serious poster. He thinks he's being clever by posting what he thinks the ultimate Apple apologist would say. Best just to ignore him... or make him cry.
But if he is simply posting what Apple fans like to see posted, then what is the problem?
But if he is simply posting what Apple fans want to see posted, then what is the problem?
"...posting what he thinks..."
But if he is simply posting what Apple fans like to see posted, then what is the problem?
The blatant lies? The Poeing? The disingenuousness of it all?
Take your pick.
You cannot talk and surf the web at the same time with Verizon, and that ability is very important to iPhone users.
Maybe you weren't aware of that?
For example, if your wife calls you on your 25th Wedding Anniversary, and you had forgotten, you can make a dinner reservation online while you chat with her. Then you don't get in trouble.
With Verizon, you end up in the doghouse for the night, instead of enjoying sa delicious meal with your beloved.
Its not worth it. Stick with ATT.
Thanks for recapping the AT&T commercial for us.
1) The contract clearly states in what way the service is unlimited.
Yes, it does. It says nothing about throttling if you use too much.
2) The contract is designed to hold you accountable for the value of the service you agree to pay for.
I honestly don't know what the hell that means.
You can end it by paying the ETF fee and AT&T can end it at any time they want.
Irrelevant. The ability to end a contract does not mean AT&T gets to alter the terms after you sign it.
3) If a carrier forces a change that is not specified in the contract the contact is nullified. I've seen this before when companies were being bought out. This allows the customer to leave the carrier and keep the device, if they so choose, without a fear of penalty but it does not mean the carrier has to pay them anything for dissolving the contract as its for the carrier against the consumer who is getting several hundred dollars for free up front, in most cases.
I've seen that as well. In this case, AT&T has allowed people who bought unlimited data plans to be grandfathered in...presumably because they had to. But the data is not unlimited. Downloads slow to near zero after one exceeds their cap. You are therefore paying for an unlimited data plan with a data limit.
Irrelevant. The ability to end a contract does not mean AT&T gets to alter the terms after you sign it.
I was under the impression that you automatically agree to any changes made to your contract by AT&T every time you pay your monthly bill.
Now though they have decided to backtrack and have done away with limits on their Full Monty package.
Hopefully others will follow suit.