Excuse me? How is spending $8 renting an HD from Apple any more convenient, and costly than walking 400m to the video store and renting the same movie on Blu-ray for $4.
Everyone's circumstances are different. Heck I even bike/walk past a video store every day, making getting the blu-ray every more convenient. While we are at it, don't forget the high internet costs, and limited data that I have, it isn't very convenient using most of it to download a couple of movies.
While you're at it, don't confuse your circumstances with anyone else's. The dictionary definition more than meets it.
You aren't going to convince anyone but yourself and perhaps a few other simpletons that cheaper is the same as convenient. And speaking of biking, you just backpedaled from your own argument. I can be halfway through a movie by the time you return from your sweaty bicycle ride. You're such a fool that you still react as if I'm attacking BluRay. I'm simply stating that you will appear less ignorant, and in fact make a stronger case for your media of choice, if you stop misusing words that most children understand how to use correctly.
You aren't going to convince anyone but yourself and perhaps a few other simpletons that cheaper is the same as convenient. And speaking of biking, you just backpedaled from your own argument. I can be halfway through a movie by the time you return from your sweaty bicycle ride. You're such a fool that you still react as if I'm attacking BluRay. I'm simply stating that you will appear less ignorant, and in fact make a stronger case for your media of choice, if you stop misusing words that most children understand how to use correctly.
Comprehension seems to be your new issue. You can watch half of a movie in under 5 minutes? Yes, it only takes me about 5 minutes to bike the 400m to the video store grab a movie and bike back, you see my local video store is in a convenient location, together with the fact that the price of the blu-rays at my local video store are conventiently cheaper than the iTunes videos.
Different things are convenient to different people, stop being a fool and ignoring the fact that people are different and have different priorities. If all you can do is start with personal insults to try to support you non-existant agrument than maybe you should start thinking a little harder
Umm yes. It's Understandable that a pro-apple site would quote an unknown webpage with no credibility (kind of like digitimes). When cnet or a real place reviews it, then we'll talk. The fact they did it on a 23" monitor, and said Dolby digital 5.1 is comparable to dts-hd is really the biggest joke I've ever heard. Insanity.
Are you referring to the Ars article? If so, where did they compare the audio?
Well, too bad, the movie studios/Apple(?) yet again pissing away money in the wind.
With the very poor quality of movies today, the big hope of the studios would be, I imagine, for consumers to have instant gratification of 1080p video along with the iPad 3 and various mobile, tablet and Mac devices would be great, particularly that other super-high-res screen aka iMac.
Excuse me? Typical AI user, you get challenged by someone and you just start with the insults.
Sorry jfanning- I thought he was replying to jrag at first read- who contributes absolutely nothing. You're a great contributor (whether we agree on things or not)- sorry for getting y'all mixed up.
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Originally Posted by jfanning
Are you referring to the Ars article? If so, where did they compare the audio?
After re reading, I obviously misread the following:
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Originally Posted by AppleInsider
The iTunes download came in at 3.62GB and includes Dolby Digital 5.1 sound as well as a stereo AAC track, and is being compared to the 50GB-capable Blu-Ray Disc which adds a DTS-HD option to the standard Dolby Digital 5.1.
The word "comparable" was obviously still comparing video and I read it as comparing audio. My bad.
You misunderstand. The KB article is about watching iTunes content on AppleTV 2 and 3, and it's pointing out that 1080p won't work on AppleTV 2 (this is no surprise). Macs can play 1080p from iTunes no problem - you have to select 1080p as a preference in iTunes 10.6 preferences.
You are correct that encoders have greatly improved by leaps and bounds. I'm sure that now the software can do a lot of the work that was manually done a few years ago.
Where I disagree with you is in the fact that compression is much an art as it is a science. Encoders have improved on the science, but they will never equal the eye of a trained professional.
In your mind media companies are using the same off the shelf software the rest of us use. This is not true. All of these big media companies are using proprietary encoders.
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Originally Posted by d-range
What you are describing is better encoding (apparently optimized manually, which I find very surprising since encoders have very sophisticated algorithms to optimize encoding, that probably beat a human 9 out of 10 times). Since Apple can encode iTunes content with exactly the same encoder and codec for 720p and 1080p, and encoder and codec can be the same as used for Blu-Ray discs, only one factor that matters remains, which is bitrate.
Hello. Does anybody knows whether the new 1080p movies downloadable from Apple Store comes in 21:9 (2,35:1) format like Bluray movies ?
The movie comes in the ratio in which it is distributed. Not all Blu-ray content is 2.39:1, and not all SD and 720 content was 16:9. Apple has supported all three ratios for years.
Well, too bad, the movie studios/Apple(?) yet again pissing away money in the wind.
With the very poor quality of movies today, the big hope of the studios would be, I imagine, for consumers to have instant gratification of 1080p video along with the iPad 3 and various mobile, tablet and Mac devices would be great, particularly that other super-high-res screen aka iMac.
Sorry jfanning- I thought he was replying to jrag at first read- who contributes absolutely nothing. You're a great contributor (whether we agree on things or not)- sorry for getting y'all mixed up.
No worries
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Originally Posted by Andysol
After re reading, I obviously misread the following:
The word "comparable" was obviously still comparing video and I read it as comparing audio. My bad.
That's cool, I thought I had read the same thing, but couldn't recall where it was
Comprehension seems to be your new issue. You can watch half of a movie in under 5 minutes? Yes, it only takes me about 5 minutes to bike the 400m to the video store grab a movie and bike back, you see my local video store is in a convenient location, together with the fact that the price of the blu-rays at my local video store are conventiently cheaper than the iTunes videos.
Different things are convenient to different people, stop being a fool and ignoring the fact that people are different and have different priorities. If all you can do is start with personal insults to try to support you non-existant agrument than maybe you should start thinking a little harder
I've learned over the years that some folks lack either the ability or the inclination to employ basic logic skills when debating. Regardless of which it is in this case, if you truly believe yourself to be my intellectual superior, well then hats off to ye.
I've learned over the years that some folks lack either the ability or the inclination to employ basic logic skills when debating. Regardless of which it is in this case, if you truly believe yourself to be my intellectual superior, well then hats off to ye.
Nice speech.
Now back to topic, how is giving Apple $8 to rent a video any more convenient for me than going 400m to get the same movie on Blu-ray for $3.33 (the rental price I paid yesterday for a blu-ray).
1080p content is only compatible with iPad (3rd generation), Apple TV (3rd generation), and computers that meet the minimum system requirements. HD content purchased directly on iPad 2 or earlier will continue to download in 720p. You may still download the 1080p version using the Purchased page on your computer based on availability.
1080p content is only compatible with? ?Apple TV (3rd generation)?
They should clarify that. 1080p content works perfectly well with the 2nd gen Apple TV, it just plays BACK at 720p. So if you have 1080p files on your computer, they'll stream to it just fine.
They should clarify that. 1080p content works perfectly well with the 2nd gen Apple TV, it just plays BACK at 720p. So if you have 1080p files on your computer, they'll stream to it just fine.
Not the ones from the iTunes store. The new 1080p downloads use High-Profile H.264 which the AppleTV 2 is not capable of decoding.
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This obviously must be your first time reading jfannings posts....
I see you hail from Texas also. Cheers!
Excuse me? How is spending $8 renting an HD from Apple any more convenient, and costly than walking 400m to the video store and renting the same movie on Blu-ray for $4.
Everyone's circumstances are different. Heck I even bike/walk past a video store every day, making getting the blu-ray every more convenient. While we are at it, don't forget the high internet costs, and limited data that I have, it isn't very convenient using most of it to download a couple of movies.
While you're at it, don't confuse your circumstances with anyone else's. The dictionary definition more than meets it.
You aren't going to convince anyone but yourself and perhaps a few other simpletons that cheaper is the same as convenient. And speaking of biking, you just backpedaled from your own argument. I can be halfway through a movie by the time you return from your sweaty bicycle ride. You're such a fool that you still react as if I'm attacking BluRay. I'm simply stating that you will appear less ignorant, and in fact make a stronger case for your media of choice, if you stop misusing words that most children understand how to use correctly.
You aren't going to convince anyone but yourself and perhaps a few other simpletons that cheaper is the same as convenient. And speaking of biking, you just backpedaled from your own argument. I can be halfway through a movie by the time you return from your sweaty bicycle ride. You're such a fool that you still react as if I'm attacking BluRay. I'm simply stating that you will appear less ignorant, and in fact make a stronger case for your media of choice, if you stop misusing words that most children understand how to use correctly.
Comprehension seems to be your new issue. You can watch half of a movie in under 5 minutes? Yes, it only takes me about 5 minutes to bike the 400m to the video store grab a movie and bike back, you see my local video store is in a convenient location, together with the fact that the price of the blu-rays at my local video store are conventiently cheaper than the iTunes videos.
Different things are convenient to different people, stop being a fool and ignoring the fact that people are different and have different priorities. If all you can do is start with personal insults to try to support you non-existant agrument than maybe you should start thinking a little harder
This obviously must be your first time reading jfannings posts....
Excuse me? Typical AI user, you get challenged by someone and you just start with the insults.
Umm yes. It's Understandable that a pro-apple site would quote an unknown webpage with no credibility (kind of like digitimes). When cnet or a real place reviews it, then we'll talk. The fact they did it on a 23" monitor, and said Dolby digital 5.1 is comparable to dts-hd is really the biggest joke I've ever heard. Insanity.
Are you referring to the Ars article? If so, where did they compare the audio?
1080p movie content for iTunes Store is only available on Apple TV (3rd generation).
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5183
Harsh mate, harsh.
Well, too bad, the movie studios/Apple(?) yet again pissing away money in the wind.
With the very poor quality of movies today, the big hope of the studios would be, I imagine, for consumers to have instant gratification of 1080p video along with the iPad 3 and various mobile, tablet and Mac devices would be great, particularly that other super-high-res screen aka iMac.
I see you hail from Texas also. Cheers!
Thanks! You too.
Excuse me? Typical AI user, you get challenged by someone and you just start with the insults.
Sorry jfanning- I thought he was replying to jrag at first read- who contributes absolutely nothing. You're a great contributor (whether we agree on things or not)- sorry for getting y'all mixed up.
Are you referring to the Ars article? If so, where did they compare the audio?
After re reading, I obviously misread the following:
The iTunes download came in at 3.62GB and includes Dolby Digital 5.1 sound as well as a stereo AAC track, and is being compared to the 50GB-capable Blu-Ray Disc which adds a DTS-HD option to the standard Dolby Digital 5.1.
The word "comparable" was obviously still comparing video and I read it as comparing audio. My bad.
Guys and gals it may have been mentioned before but I just found out, luckily without purchasing and being let down:
1080p movie content for iTunes Store is only available on Apple TV (3rd generation).
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5183
You misunderstand. The KB article is about watching iTunes content on AppleTV 2 and 3, and it's pointing out that 1080p won't work on AppleTV 2 (this is no surprise). Macs can play 1080p from iTunes no problem - you have to select 1080p as a preference in iTunes 10.6 preferences.
Where I disagree with you is in the fact that compression is much an art as it is a science. Encoders have improved on the science, but they will never equal the eye of a trained professional.
In your mind media companies are using the same off the shelf software the rest of us use. This is not true. All of these big media companies are using proprietary encoders.
What you are describing is better encoding (apparently optimized manually, which I find very surprising since encoders have very sophisticated algorithms to optimize encoding, that probably beat a human 9 out of 10 times). Since Apple can encode iTunes content with exactly the same encoder and codec for 720p and 1080p, and encoder and codec can be the same as used for Blu-Ray discs, only one factor that matters remains, which is bitrate.
Hello. Does anybody knows whether the new 1080p movies downloadable from Apple Store comes in 21:9 (2,35:1) format like Bluray movies ?
The movie comes in the ratio in which it is distributed. Not all Blu-ray content is 2.39:1, and not all SD and 720 content was 16:9. Apple has supported all three ratios for years.
Guys and gals it may have been mentioned before but I just found out, luckily without purchasing and being let down:
1080p movie content for iTunes Store is only available on Apple TV (3rd generation).
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5183
Harsh mate, harsh.
Well, too bad, the movie studios/Apple(?) yet again pissing away money in the wind.
With the very poor quality of movies today, the big hope of the studios would be, I imagine, for consumers to have instant gratification of 1080p video along with the iPad 3 and various mobile, tablet and Mac devices would be great, particularly that other super-high-res screen aka iMac.
Hello. Does anybody knows whether the new 1080p movies downloadable from Apple Store comes in 21:9 (2,35:1) format like Bluray movies ?
When did 2.35:1 become a Blu-ray specific aspect ratio?
Hollywood blockbusters are usually filmed in 2.39:1 aspect ratio, so most Blu-ray movies comes in the very same aspect ratio.
I am thinking of buying the Philips Cinema 21:9 television (http://www.philips.co.uk/c/televisio...B4.app101-drp1), therefore it would be nice to know. I appreciate all info on this subject. Thanks.
Sorry jfanning- I thought he was replying to jrag at first read- who contributes absolutely nothing. You're a great contributor (whether we agree on things or not)- sorry for getting y'all mixed up.
No worries
After re reading, I obviously misread the following:
The word "comparable" was obviously still comparing video and I read it as comparing audio. My bad.
That's cool, I thought I had read the same thing, but couldn't recall where it was
Comprehension seems to be your new issue. You can watch half of a movie in under 5 minutes? Yes, it only takes me about 5 minutes to bike the 400m to the video store grab a movie and bike back, you see my local video store is in a convenient location, together with the fact that the price of the blu-rays at my local video store are conventiently cheaper than the iTunes videos.
Different things are convenient to different people, stop being a fool and ignoring the fact that people are different and have different priorities. If all you can do is start with personal insults to try to support you non-existant agrument than maybe you should start thinking a little harder
I've learned over the years that some folks lack either the ability or the inclination to employ basic logic skills when debating. Regardless of which it is in this case, if you truly believe yourself to be my intellectual superior, well then hats off to ye.
I've learned over the years that some folks lack either the ability or the inclination to employ basic logic skills when debating. Regardless of which it is in this case, if you truly believe yourself to be my intellectual superior, well then hats off to ye.
Nice speech.
Now back to topic, how is giving Apple $8 to rent a video any more convenient for me than going 400m to get the same movie on Blu-ray for $3.33 (the rental price I paid yesterday for a blu-ray).
Note update:
1080p content is only compatible with iPad (3rd generation), Apple TV (3rd generation), and computers that meet the minimum system requirements. HD content purchased directly on iPad 2 or earlier will continue to download in 720p. You may still download the 1080p version using the Purchased page on your computer based on availability.
1080p content is only compatible with? ?Apple TV (3rd generation)?
They should clarify that. 1080p content works perfectly well with the 2nd gen Apple TV, it just plays BACK at 720p. So if you have 1080p files on your computer, they'll stream to it just fine.
They should clarify that. 1080p content works perfectly well with the 2nd gen Apple TV, it just plays BACK at 720p. So if you have 1080p files on your computer, they'll stream to it just fine.
Not the ones from the iTunes store. The new 1080p downloads use High-Profile H.264 which the AppleTV 2 is not capable of decoding.