Are these the new Macs of 2002 ?

antaisce

<a href="http://membres.lycos.fr/applefr/Rumeurs.html"; target="_blank">http://membres.lycos.fr/applefr/Rumeurs.html</a>;









iMac :



2 modèles

PowerPC G3 avec 256Ko de cache de niveau 2 Ã* la vitesse du processeur

Bus système Ã* 100Mhz

Mémoire type SDRam PC100 extensible Ã* 1Go

Disque dur Ultra ATA

Lecteurs optiques mange disques

Processeur graphique ATI Rage 128 Ultra sur bus AGP 2x avec 16Mo de mémoire vidéo

Connecteurs : 2x USB , 2x FireWire , entrée et sortie audio , Modem 56k V90 , Ethernet 10/100 RJ45 , sortie VGA

Ecran 15" CRT avec résolution maximale de 1024x768 pixels

Sortie prévue en septembre 2002 avec disponibilité immédiate



iMac 800 900

Processeur PowerPC G3 Ã* 800Mhz PowerPC G3 Ã* 900Mhz

Mémoire 128Mo 256Mo

Disque Dur 20Go Ã* 5400 Trs/min 40Go Ã* 7200 Trs/min

Lecteur optique Lecteur CD Graveur CD-Rw

Couleurs disponibles Indigo Graphite , Neige

Prix idéal (TTC) 990 Euros / 6494 Frs 1290 Euros / 8462 Frs





iMac Luxo (Ã* écran plat) :



3 modèles

PowerPC G4 avec 256Ko de cache de niveau 2 Ã* la vitesse du processeur

Bus système Ã* 200Mhz

Mémoire type DDR-SDRam extensible Ã* 1Go

Disque dur Ultra ATA

Processeur graphique nVidia geForce2Mx sur bus AGP 4x avec 32 Mo de mémoire vidéo

Connecteurs : 3x USB 2 , 2x FireWire2 , sortie audio , Modem 56k V92 , Ethernet 10/100 RJ45 , sortie VGA

Ecran 15" TFT LCD avec résolution maximale de 1024x768 pixels

Sortie prévue en septembre 2002 avec disponibilité immédiate



iMac Luxo (Ã* écran plat) CD-Rw Combo SuperDrive

Processeur PowerPC G4 Ã* 1Ghz PowerPC G4 Ã* 1,2Ghz PowerPC G4 Ã* 1,2Ghz

Mémoire 128Mo 256Mo 512Mo

Disque Dur 40Go Ã* 7200 Trs/min 60Go Ã* 7200 Trs/min 80Go Ã* 7200 Trs/min

Lecteur optique Graveur CD-Rw Combo : Graveur CD-Rw/Lecteur DVD SuperDrive2 (DVD+Rw , DVD-R/Rw ...)

Prix idéal (TTC) 1790 Euros / 11742 Frs 1990 Euros / 13054 Frs 2490 Euros / 16334 Frs





iBook :



4 modèles

PowerPC G3 avec 256Ko de cache de niveau 2 Ã* la vitesse du processeur

Bus système Ã* 100Mhz

Mémoire type SO-Dimm extensible Ã* 640Mo

Disque dur Ultra ATA

Processeur graphique ATI Radeon 7000 sur bus AGP 4x avec 16 Mo de mémoire vidéo

Connecteurs : 2x USB 2 , 1x FireWire2 , sortie audio , Modem 56k V92 , Ethernet 10/100 RJ45 , sortie vidéo composite , sortie VGA

Ecran TFT avec résolution maximale de 1024x768 pixels

Sortie prévue en septembre 2002 avec disponibilité immédiate



iBook CD-Rom DVD-Rom Combo 12,1" Combo 14,1"

Processeur PowerPC G3 Ã* 800Mhz PowerPC G3 Ã* 800Mhz PowerPC G3 Ã* 900Mhz PowerPC G3 Ã* 900Mhz

Mémoire 128Mo 128Mo 128Mo 256Mo

Disque dur 15Go 15Go 20Go 20Go

Lecteur optique Lecteur CD Lecteur DVD/CD Combo : Graveur CD-Rw/Lecteur DVD Combo : Graveur CD-Rw/Lecteur DVD

Taille d'écran 12,1" 12,1" 12,1" 14,1"

Prix idéal (TTC) 1690 Euros 1840 Euros 2140 Euros 2590 Euros





PowerMac G5 :



4 modèles

PowerPC G5 avec 256Ko de cache de niveau 2 Ã* la vitesse du processeur

2Mo de cache de niveau 3 type DDR Ã* 1/2 de la vitesse du processeur (sauf sur le premier modèle)

Bus système Ã* 400Mhz

Mémoire type DDR-SDRam extensible Ã* 2Go

Disques durs Ultra ATA/133

Lecteurs optiques : Graveur CD-Rw sur le premier modèle et SuperDrive2 sur les autres

Carte graphique sur connecteur AGP 4x avec mémoire vidéo de type DDR et gestion du double écran (uniquement sur Radeon 7500 et geForce4 Mx)

Connecteurs : 2x USB 2 , 2x FireWire2 , sortie audio , Modem 56k V92 , Ethernet 10/100/1000 RJ45 , sorties VGA et ADC

Sortie prévue en juillet 2002 avec disponibilité immédiate



PowerMac G5 1,2Ghz 1,4Ghz Dual 1,4Ghz Dual 1,6Ghz

Processeur PowerPC G5 Ã* 1,2Ghz PowerPC G5 Ã* 1,4Ghz 2x PowerPC G5 Ã* 1,4Ghz 2x PowerPC G5 Ã* 1,6Ghz

Mémoire 256Mo 256Mo 512Mo 2Go

Disque Dur 60Go Ã* 7200 Trs/min 60Go Ã* 7200 Trs/min 80Go Ã* 7200 Trs/min 2x80Go Ã* 7200 Trs/min

Carte graphique ATI Radeon 7500 32Mo nVidia geForce4Mx 64Mo nVidia geForce4Mx 64Mo nVidia geForce4 128Mo

Prix idéal (TTC) 2190 Euros / 14366 Frs 3190 Euros / 20925 Frs 4190 Euros / 27485 Frs 5190 Euros / 34044 Frs





PowerBook G4 :



3 modèles

PowerPC G4 avec 256Ko de cache de niveau 2 Ã* la vitesse du processeur

Bus système Ã* 133Mhz

Mémoire type SO-Dimm extensible Ã* 1Go

Disques durs Ultra ATA

Lecteurs optiques mange disques Combo Graveur CD-Rw/Lecteur DVD

Processeur graphique ATI Radeon 7500 Mobility sur bus AGP 4x avec 32 Mo de mémoire vidéo type DDR

Connecteurs : 2x USB 2 , 1x FireWire2 , sortie audio , Modem 56k V92 , Ethernet 10/100/1000 RJ45 , sortie S-vidéo , sortie VGA , infrarouge , PC-Card

Ecran 16,3" TFT avec résolution maximale de 1280x1024 pixels

Sortie prévue en juillet 2002 avec disponibilité immédiate



PowerBook G4 933 1Ghz 1Ghz

Processeur PowerPC G4 Ã* 933Mhz PowerPC G4 Ã* 1Ghz PowerPC G4 Ã* 1Ghz

Mémoire 256Mo 512Mo 1Go

Disque Dur 20Go Ã* 4200 Trs/min 32Go Ã* 5400 Trs/min 48Go Ã* 5400 Trs/min

Prix idéal (TTC) 2990 Euros 3990 Euros 4990 Euros

mclaugd1

These are nice, especially the G5's and the new PowerBooks. These are also rumors but I think these are pretty believable configurations.

outsider

What are they saying is the timeframe? And can someone translate? I can make out most of it but I want to see if I meissed something. Thanks.

pscates

Yes, can one of you French sumbitches translate? Merci.

nitzer

It says pro products in July, consumer in September. Available immediately.



Dual G5 &lt;drool&gt;



<img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />



[ 04-05-2002: Message edited by: Nitzer ]</p>

scottib

16.3" @ 1280x1024 screen for PB G4? With that Apple's changing the form factor back to 4:3. That's dubious, I think.



These specs sound sexier in French (infrarouge--the new Chanel lipstick)



[ 04-05-2002: Message edited by: scottiB ]



[ 04-05-2002: Message edited by: scottiB ]</p>

nitzer

Babelfish translation of the site is much easier reading.



<a href="http://membres.lycos.fr/applefr/Rumeurs.html"; target="_blank">http://membres.lycos.fr/applefr/Rumeurs.html</a>;



<a href="http://babelfish.altavista.com/tr"; target="_blank">Babelfish</a>

powerdoc

Here for the translation :

<a href="http://216.239.35.120/translate_c?h...fr/Rumeurs.html"; target="_blank">http://216.239.35.120/translate_c?h...fr/Rumeurs.html</a>;



It has been deal on an another forum : <a href="http://forums.appleinsider.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=001494&p="; target="_blank">http://forums.appleinsider.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=001494&p=</a>;

powerdoc

the link of the english version does not work : i try to translate a few words :



- lecteurs optiques mange disque : slot loading CD rom readers

- sortie prevue en septembre 2002 avec disponibilite immediate: release prevue in september 2002 with immediate disponibility

- carte graphique : graphic card

- processeur : processor or chip

- vitesse : speed

- sortie : output

- disques durs : hard disks

- graveur : burner

- ideal : read recommended (prizes)



If you have another specific questions ask, otherwize it's too long to translate all this stuff.

jll

[quote]Originally posted by scottiB:

<strong>16.3" @ 1280x1024 screen for PB G4? With that Apple's changing the form factor back to 4:3. That's dubious, I think.</strong><hr></blockquote>



The CD-ROM drives in the low end iBook and iMac also looks fishy.



CD-RW or Combo drives would propably be cheap enough at that time.



Furthermore I don't think that even Apple knows the exact specs of a model six months before introduction.

powerdoc

[quote]Originally posted by JLL:

<strong>



Furthermore I don't think that even Apple knows the exact specs of a model six months before introduction.</strong><hr></blockquote>



You made a good point here.

scottib

Unless those specs are purely for education. That said, introducing (or shipping) new consumer/edu iBooks in September--a full 11 months after previous hardware boosts (14.1" notwithstanding)--is crazy (but this is Apple, I suppose). Classes have begun already.



[ 04-05-2002: Message edited by: scottiB ]</p>

mattyj

Well, if these specs are true, and the pro products are released in september, well, &lt;drool&gt;

blackcat

[quote]Originally posted by powerdoc:

<strong>



You made a good point here.</strong><hr></blockquote>



My girlfriend was head of PR at Panasonic UK until 2000, so she told me about stuff like this all the time.



Specs on new devices are decided well over 12 months in advance. It isn't set in stone but is normally close to what is released. Apple will know what they are doing for the next 12-18 months.



The Powerbook looks great!

altivec_2.0

iMac G3?? No

cowerd

[quote]iMac G3?? No<hr></blockquote>

Yes. Very possible. G3 i Mac is CRT model. Why not throw in a faster processor, same price point for Ed Market and price point sensitive folks. Apple still does sells these you know.

brussell

What's the context behind these predictions? There doesn't seem to be any explanation - is someone claiming to have gotten these specs from somewhere?



They seem extremely optimistic to me.

wrong robot

[quote] Taken from the Translated (via babelfish) page



iMac:

*\t2 models

*\tPowerPC G3 with 256Ko of mask of level 2 at the speed of the processor

*\tBus system with 100Mhz

*\tStandard report extensible SDRam PC100 with 1Go

*\tHard disk Ultra ATA

*\tOptical readers eats discs

*\tGraphics processor ATI Ultra Rage 128 on bus AGP 2x with 16Mo of video report

*\tConnectors: 2x USB, 2x FireWire, input and output audio, Modem 56K V90, Ethernet 10/100 RJ45, output VGA

*\tScreen 15 " CRT with maximum resolution of 1024x768 pixels

*\tOutput envisaged in September 2002 with immediate availability

<hr></blockquote>

<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />

personally I would like my computer to just read the discs, but if the shoe fits

<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />

<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />



[ 04-05-2002: Message edited by: Wrong Robot ]</p>

wrong robot

on a more serious note...all these computers have USB 2, which steve said he WASN'T going to implement...and USB 2.0 isn't even a real standard its just something intel through together to try and best firewire(which it doesn't do)

and it says something about cache at 1/2 speed of processor(for the g5) making it 700 mhz and 800 mhz....thats a little bit wierd....maybe it was talking about RAM...but thats still wierd



[ 04-05-2002: Message edited by: Wrong Robot ]</p>

bradbower

I'm skeptical about USB 2 and changes to the PowerBook (the aspect ratio and screen size, mainly). I wouldn't be surprised at two different sizes of PowerBooks (15.2" and.. say.. 17-18" (GOD would I love that! perfect for serious work, desktop replacement, and remote video shits)), a la the iBooks. USB 2 just sucks, it's very inelegant.. if Apple goes with it, there will be CONSTANT headaches about matching up the correct connectors and backwards compatibility! Don't even lead Apple to believe you want it!

mslee

[quote]USB 2 just sucks, it's very inelegant.. if Apple goes with it, there will be CONSTANT headaches about matching up the correct connectors and backwards compatibility! Don't even lead Apple to believe you want it!<hr></blockquote>



What on earth are you jabbering on about? USB 1.1 and USB 2.0 connectors are cross-compatible.



Here's a news flash for the RDF'd: get this, Firewire 2 connectors will require an adaptor to jack into Firewier 1 ports! Thats right...take a look at IEEE specs.