Seriously can we get off the whole 'this isn't how Steve did it' routine. It's as annoying as the 'Steve would never approve this' (that you can't back up with any facts)
Relax man. Just an observation. Didn't state it was better or worse. Just different. Of course things will change and that's fine, but I don't think there should be much issue with people occasionally pointing out the change in management style/decisons. They are a public company after all.
Tim Cook is rather boring. I understand that he is busy with iOS development, but why can't Scott Forstall do these keynotes? He is hands down their best presenter now, and I always get that feeling of "F*ck YEAH!!!" when he speaks about things just like I used to with Steve.
I'd imagine it might have something to do with his Steve Buscemi "Crazy Eyes" I agree though that he is more entertaining to watch than Cook. Even Phil Schiller is at least funny. I also agree with a previous commenter about the focus being on the products and not on one individual. I'm cool with that and understand it, but I used to be pumped for keynotes and recently they've had me dozing off from a showman standpoint.
I was almost wondering if he shouts in it. Samuel Jackson just gets really pigeonholed into this angry Black racial stereotype thing across so many characters. I have to wonder if he just goes along with it because it pays. It doesn't seem like it would be that fulfilling, then again a lot of big actors bore me.
Tim Cook is rather boring. I understand that he is busy with iOS development, but why can't Scott Forstall do these keynotes? He is hands down their best presenter now, and I always get that feeling of "F*ck YEAH!!!" when he speaks about things just like I used to with Steve.
Scott's not bad, but having worked around him and Craig Federighi there is no comparison in style and ability to carry a room--Craig, hands down.
Scott's not bad, but having worked around him and Craig Federighi there is no comparison in style and ability to carry a room--Craig, hands down.
Are you talking about keynotes or improv though? Some people work better to rehearsed material, others can do better with spontaneous situations. I'd say Scott does more engaging keynotes:
The subject matter and audience vary of course but Scott has his youth and energy on his side. Plus Federighi left Apple for a whole decade and his hand gestures are a bit creepy.
The keynotes need energy, not old guys creaking about talking about the good ole days. Even Samuel L Jackson wouldn't be a step too far but you tend to find that when actors aren't on set, they are not really all that engaging. That's clear from the Oscars and Golden Globes.
Everybody has their element and I think Scott does the keynotes best. Even in the advert they all did, he stood out way above the others like Mansfield and Ive because he has exactly what Steve had: a plain old down-to-earth, humorous nature, which everyone relates to.
Precious yet tedious. Cloying yet cold. Offensive in the all-too-common assumption that modern celebrities are models for anything other than narcissism and a pathetic, doomed obsession with popularity.
But more to the point? A blatant, arrogant misrepresentation of the product.
Dude, take a Klonopin, it's just a f'kin TV ad. At least they show the damn thing working, have you seen any Samsung or Motorola phone commercial? A bunch of swirling crap followed by a CGI pic of the phone.
This is however the first time I've really seen them using celebs as one of the main points of their ads. Definitely a departure from the Steve Jobs era.
Do you not remember the iPod ads with U2 and Eminem? Or what about all the get a Mac ads with Justin Long?
Are you talking about keynotes or improv though? Some people work better to rehearsed material, others can do better with spontaneous situations. I'd say Scott does more engaging keynotes:
The subject matter and audience vary of course but Scott has his youth and energy on his side. Plus Federighi left Apple for a whole decade and his hand gestures are a bit creepy.
The keynotes need energy, not old guys creaking about talking about the good ole days. Even Samuel L Jackson wouldn't be a step too far but you tend to find that when actors aren't on set, they are not really all that engaging. That's clear from the Oscars and Golden Globes.
Everybody has their element and I think Scott does the keynotes best. Even in the advert they all did, he stood out way above the others like Mansfield and Ive because he has exactly what Steve had: a plain old down-to-earth, humorous nature, which everyone relates to.
I couldn't have said any of that better myself. They could even set it up for Tim to do all the bragging about numbers, new stores, new initiatives, etc. and turn it over to Scott and Phile Schiller as the product guys. Make the introduction of the product an event, put on a show! In order to do that, you need your best people introducing it.
Tim Cook is rather boring. I understand that he is busy with iOS development, but why can't Scott Forstall do these keynotes? He is hands down their best presenter now, and I always get that feeling of "F*ck YEAH!!!" when he speaks about things just like I used to with Steve.
I like Tim Cook as the CEO "steady wins the race". you need to be able to make MILLIONS of the product in order to sell MILLIONS of the products... Steve Jobs was a Genius, but he was the whip that shaped the apple products... Jon Ive et al. designed them... furthermore Steve Jobs created a company that can "gasp" exist without him.
STATE OF THE ART is what I think Tim Cook believes Apple should be. the Ipad Retina display is a perfect example of this.
(State-of-the-cheap is what everybody else is doing)
IMAO Scott Forstall is perfect where he is .. he is the head of the app development(i believe) how could miss the fact that in app purchases should be limited to no more than 15 Dollars a week?... that would have prevented the "free" apps (mainly aimed at kids) from running up an 800 dollar credit card bill... they really should be limited to the price of the app... (i thought in app purchases were for magazine/newspaper subscriptions..)
Scott Forstall is in the perfect job/career for him.
Do you not remember the iPod ads with U2 and Eminem? Or what about all the get a Mac ads with Justin Long?
Oh I remember. Those were silhouette ads of them playing music from music videos which isn't exactly what I meant by having celebs in the ads and I believe didn't even have Eminem's permission in his ad which is why he sued them.
As for Justin Long... I hope you're kidding. He wasn't a celeb when he started that campaign and many could argue he still isn't much of one. Definitely not a household name. Don't get me wrong, I loved him in Waiting . I was more referring to a celebrity ad like you'd see Tiger Woods doing a Nike commercial or Jerry Seinfeld in an Acura commercial.
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well the man has been dead for six months.
Seriously can we get off the whole 'this isn't how Steve did it' routine. It's as annoying as the 'Steve would never approve this' (that you can't back up with any facts)
Relax man. Just an observation. Didn't state it was better or worse. Just different. Of course things will change and that's fine, but I don't think there should be much issue with people occasionally pointing out the change in management style/decisons. They are a public company after all.
Tim Cook is rather boring. I understand that he is busy with iOS development, but why can't Scott Forstall do these keynotes? He is hands down their best presenter now, and I always get that feeling of "F*ck YEAH!!!" when he speaks about things just like I used to with Steve.
I'd imagine it might have something to do with his Steve Buscemi "Crazy Eyes"
As shown at the end, this is a Verizon TV ad, not an Apple ad. So, Apple still is not using celebrities in ads. Verizon is.
That makes far more sense
No no. This is the ultimate iPhone Samuel L Jackson Commercial.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Hn2YS0YYbI
I was almost wondering if he shouts in it. Samuel Jackson just gets really pigeonholed into this angry Black racial stereotype thing across so many characters. I have to wonder if he just goes along with it because it pays. It doesn't seem like it would be that fulfilling, then again a lot of big actors bore me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2-UuIEOcss
Tim Cook is rather boring. I understand that he is busy with iOS development, but why can't Scott Forstall do these keynotes? He is hands down their best presenter now, and I always get that feeling of "F*ck YEAH!!!" when he speaks about things just like I used to with Steve.
Scott's not bad, but having worked around him and Craig Federighi there is no comparison in style and ability to carry a room--Craig, hands down.
Scott's not bad, but having worked around him and Craig Federighi there is no comparison in style and ability to carry a room--Craig, hands down.
Are you talking about keynotes or improv though? Some people work better to rehearsed material, others can do better with spontaneous situations. I'd say Scott does more engaging keynotes:
Federighi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHQHAIsGPQE
Forstall
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5X28xmBS34
The subject matter and audience vary of course but Scott has his youth and energy on his side. Plus Federighi left Apple for a whole decade and his hand gestures are a bit creepy.
The keynotes need energy, not old guys creaking about talking about the good ole days. Even Samuel L Jackson wouldn't be a step too far but you tend to find that when actors aren't on set, they are not really all that engaging. That's clear from the Oscars and Golden Globes.
Everybody has their element and I think Scott does the keynotes best. Even in the advert they all did, he stood out way above the others like Mansfield and Ive because he has exactly what Steve had: a plain old down-to-earth, humorous nature, which everyone relates to.
Precious yet tedious. Cloying yet cold. Offensive in the all-too-common assumption that modern celebrities are models for anything other than narcissism and a pathetic, doomed obsession with popularity.
But more to the point? A blatant, arrogant misrepresentation of the product.
Dude, take a Klonopin, it's just a f'kin TV ad. At least they show the damn thing working, have you seen any Samsung or Motorola phone commercial? A bunch of swirling crap followed by a CGI pic of the phone.
This is however the first time I've really seen them using celebs as one of the main points of their ads. Definitely a departure from the Steve Jobs era.
Do you not remember the iPod ads with U2 and Eminem? Or what about all the get a Mac ads with Justin Long?
Are you talking about keynotes or improv though? Some people work better to rehearsed material, others can do better with spontaneous situations. I'd say Scott does more engaging keynotes:
Federighi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHQHAIsGPQE
Forstall
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5X28xmBS34
The subject matter and audience vary of course but Scott has his youth and energy on his side. Plus Federighi left Apple for a whole decade and his hand gestures are a bit creepy.
The keynotes need energy, not old guys creaking about talking about the good ole days. Even Samuel L Jackson wouldn't be a step too far but you tend to find that when actors aren't on set, they are not really all that engaging. That's clear from the Oscars and Golden Globes.
Everybody has their element and I think Scott does the keynotes best. Even in the advert they all did, he stood out way above the others like Mansfield and Ive because he has exactly what Steve had: a plain old down-to-earth, humorous nature, which everyone relates to.
I couldn't have said any of that better myself. They could even set it up for Tim to do all the bragging about numbers, new stores, new initiatives, etc. and turn it over to Scott and Phile Schiller as the product guys. Make the introduction of the product an event, put on a show! In order to do that, you need your best people introducing it.
Tim Cook is rather boring. I understand that he is busy with iOS development, but why can't Scott Forstall do these keynotes? He is hands down their best presenter now, and I always get that feeling of "F*ck YEAH!!!" when he speaks about things just like I used to with Steve.
I like Tim Cook as the CEO "steady wins the race". you need to be able to make MILLIONS of the product in order to sell MILLIONS of the products... Steve Jobs was a Genius, but he was the whip that shaped the apple products... Jon Ive et al. designed them... furthermore Steve Jobs created a company that can "gasp" exist without him.
STATE OF THE ART is what I think Tim Cook believes Apple should be. the Ipad Retina display is a perfect example of this.
(State-of-the-cheap is what everybody else is doing)
IMAO Scott Forstall is perfect where he is .. he is the head of the app development(i believe) how could miss the fact that in app purchases should be limited to no more than 15 Dollars a week?... that would have prevented the "free" apps (mainly aimed at kids) from running up an 800 dollar credit card bill...
Scott Forstall is in the perfect job/career for him.
Does Siri respond "Dumbass, you don't cook Gazpacho, and there is nothing to time"?
Clearly you didn't watch the ad or read the article but jumped in like the troll you love to act like with a smart ass comment (or attempt at one)
IMAO Scott Forstall is perfect where he is .. he is the head of the app development(i believe)
Senior VP of iOS development.
…how could miss the fact that in app purchases should be limited to no more than 15 Dollars a week?
Because that is in no way common sense or a 'missable' "fact".
…that would have prevented the "free" apps (mainly aimed at kids) from running up an 800 dollar credit card bill…
Ah, I see where you've misunderstood.
PARENTING is what would have prevented that.
Scott Forstall is in the perfect job/career for him.
I'm pretty sure he'll be taking over after Cook…
Do you not remember the iPod ads with U2 and Eminem? Or what about all the get a Mac ads with Justin Long?
Oh I remember. Those were silhouette ads of them playing music from music videos which isn't exactly what I meant by having celebs in the ads and I believe didn't even have Eminem's permission in his ad which is why he sued them.
As for Justin Long... I hope you're kidding. He wasn't a celeb when he started that campaign and many could argue he still isn't much of one. Definitely not a household name. Don't get me wrong, I loved him in Waiting
And before anyone chimes in again about how celebrities cheapen the iPhone cachet, I refer you to the first ever iPhone commercial.
Personally, I don't like the new ads. A little too cutesy, regardless of the celebrities.
As shown at the end, this is a Verizon TV ad, not an Apple ad. So, Apple still is not using celebrities in ads. Verizon is.
They are both Apple ads.
-> http://www.apple.com/startpage/
Right side under Featured videos.
No...
Then why'd you try to fuck him like a bitch Siri?