<p> Quite stupid of anyone to blame Samsung.</p><p> </p><p> Lets look at the issue. Apple requires X amount of displays per year.</p><p> Samsung builds plant and says it can deliver Y amount of displays MAX. A facility cannot make an infinite amount of product after all</p><p> Apple says ok and goes to find another supplier to display the remaining Z amount of displays needed.</p><p> If you didn't realize, I'm using X = Y + Z</p><p> Samsung delivers on their contract as they have FOR YEARS to deliver their Y displays per year.</p><p> Other manufacturers (sharp, LG, Whirlpool, whoever) who have shoddy factories and shoddy QC, FAIL to deliver on their Z amount of displays like they promised they will.</p><p> What has Samsung done wrong? They are delivering how many they were contracted to deliver.</p><p> </p><p> Meanwhile, blind fanboys want other manufacturers who cant produce these displays in large numbers to save their lives, to take over ALL ipad manufacturing.</p><p> </p><p> REALLY? How much has fanboyism blinded some of you?</p>
This is the credited response and warrants ending any further discussion of blame on Samsung.
I love how when things go wrong it doesn't occur to a fanboy that any such fault lies with Apple and not Samsung. Most people here coming up with retarded conspiracy theories have probably never handled a supply contract in their entire lives.
Samsung wouldn't intentionally be dragging its feet on the displays in order to limit iPad production until they come out with their own competing product, would they? Naw, perish the thought.
Tough to pinpoint where to start with respect to everything that's wrong with this comment. Let me guess. Didn't go to college?
It's people like you who give reasonable, bona fide Apple fans a bad name.
Fill their contracts… well enough. Doesn't mean they're putting their heart into it. "No pressing need", as it were, when things go wrong.
Supply contracts typically come with compensatory clauses that parties can invoke when there's a breach.
There's no expectation placed upon Samsung to place their heart into something. Otherwise, I'm not sure what you're getting at, let alone whether you even know what you're talking about.
Indeed. Love how everyone thinks Samsung is one, huge monolith. Samsung's components division needs to make money, and Samsung and Apple are currently in a supplier relationship where Samsung relies upon years of reputation for reliability. When there are billions of dollars of component sales at stake, Samsung won't one day decide to renege on its agreements.
As difficult as it may be for some people here to believe, this isn't some sandbox fight.
You guys clearly have no idea how South Korean conglomerates like Hyundai, Samssung, LG, Daewoo are organized. No, unfortuntely there is no such wall or division between most large chebols in Korea - they are all owned and tightly managed by the same families or a small clique of best buddies and significant others.
Sure, if Apple could sell 50M iPads this year, that alone is 50M * $85 or $4+B worth of contract for Samsung, so why refuse such a lucrative deal? For Samsung though, it's a chump change ($4B out of $160B), but at the same time, if Apple keeps pissing off Samsung with pissy lawsuits, Samsung doesn't have to bid on Apple's contract to begin with. As the new iPad display fiasco has shown, Samsung's reputation is second to none. Samsung's reputation is already well established - it's in fact one of the largest electronic companies in the world.
Unfortunately for Apple isheeps, Samsung's fate is not in Apple's hand. Again, Samsung is now #1 smartphone / #2 overall phone makers in the world. It can andwill generate enough internal demand to divert its production capacity ; in last Q1 alone, Samsung Electronics' revenue jumped 20% and profit by 100% largely due to its increasing mobile sales. Apple has managed to slow down Samsung's entry to the tablet market with frivolous anti-competitive lawsuits, but it won't last long.
Kuo said LG Display is expected to begin providing screens in the second quarter of calendar 2012
Second Quarter of Calendar 2012 is that April- ? May-? or June-? and does that mean with LG ready to start supplying the Retina Displays for the New iPad the screen display issues which people are facing right now with the New iPad Yellowish Display and Backlight Bleeding is that situation likely to improve with LG Displays.
If I am not wrong the entire displays of the iPad-2 were supplied by LG Displays. And I quite liked the displays made by LG. initially there were reports of Backlight Bleeding with the iPad-2 aswell but it slowly diminished. I personally quite liked and would prefer the Displays made by LG than by Sammie !
I am planning to buy the New iPad but right now am in a Dilemma that should I buy it right now or should I plan it in the first week of July-2012 or August-2012 which would mark 6 months from the Launch of the New iPad so positively the production would have stabilised, inital manufacturing hiccups would have been sorted out and most importantly as I said most likely there is also a possibility of coming across a Retina Display made by LG then by Sammie Boy :-) You suck Sammie !
I've said this before (before launch of the new iPad) - Retina Display on a medium to large screen is a remarkable engineering feat. This is why it was only launched by Apple well over a year after initial rumors.
If this rumor of low yield is true, it is not surprising. This should also put to rest the notion of iMacs or Cinema displays with Retina Display being launched anytime soon. Those who even dream it do not understand engineering.
Second Quarter of Calendar 2012 is that April- ? May-? or June-? and does that mean with LG ready to start supplying the Retina Displays for the New iPad the screen display issues which people are facing right now with the New iPad Yellowish Display and Backlight Bleeding is that situation likely to improve with LG Displays.
If I am not wrong the entire displays of the iPad-2 were supplied by LG Displays. And I quite liked the displays made by LG. initially there were reports of Backlight Bleeding with the iPad-2 aswell but it slowly diminished. I personally quite liked and would prefer the Displays made by LG than by Sammie !
I am planning to buy the New iPad but right now am in a Dilemma that should I buy it right now or should I plan it in the first week of July-2012 or August-2012 which would mark 6 months from the Launch of the New iPad so positively the production would have stabilised, inital manufacturing hiccups would have been sorted out and most importantly as I said most likely there is also a possibility of coming across a Retina Display made by LG then by Sammie Boy :-) You suck Sammie !
ROFL!! You fanbois are not very bright.
LG had many problems manufacturing Apple's iPad 2 last year and Apple had to ask another supplier to fill the shortfall created by the light-bleeding problem. Guess who that supplier was - Yes, it was Samsung. If there is no blacklight bleeding problem on your iPad, it's likely that it's manufactured by Samsung. It's not at all surprising that LG is still having problems with the new iPad's display.
Now, if your goal is to boycott Samsung altogether, on whatever frivolous ground, you should seriously consider stop using iPhones 3, 3S, 4, 4S or iPad 1, 2, new. Apple's new iPad for instance uses Samsung's CPU A5X, NAND flash, DRAM, display and battery, or roughly 50% of new iPad's entire BOM. So you might as well just forget about i* altogether.
Of course, lucky for Apple, there seems to be no shortage of fanbois who are just as happy with backlight bleeding or other defects.
LG had many problems manufacturing Apple's iPad 2 last year and Apple had to ask another supplier to fill the shortfall created by the light-bleeding problem. Guess who that supplier was - Yes, it was Samsung. If there is no blacklight bleeding problem on your iPad, it's likely that it's manufactured by Samsung. It's not at all surprising that LG is still having problems with the new iPad's display.
Now, if your goal is to boycott Samsung altogether, on whatever frivolous ground, you should seriously consider stop using iPhones 3, 3S, 4, 4S or iPad 1, 2, new. Apple's new iPad for instance uses Samsung's CPU A5X, NAND flash, DRAM, display and battery, or roughly 50% of new iPad's entire BOM. So you might as well just forget about i* altogether.
Of course, lucky for Apple, there seems to be no shortage of fanbois who are just as happy with backlight bleeding or other defects.
Well I have reservations against Samsung only for the Display, they maybe good with the chips and other components that they are supplying for the iPad but Display Oh Please ! not by Samsung ! AFAIK iPhone 4s Displays have been supplied by LG and Sharp I have never heard a Samsung Name in a iPhone 4s display ! And a little bit of Backlight Bleeding is still accepateble but no ways I would accept a yellowsh looking display screen, that would literally drive me crazy ! No ways !
Second Quarter of Calendar 2012 is that April- ? May-? or June-? and does that mean with LG ready to start supplying the Retina Displays for the New iPad the screen display issues which people are facing right now with the New iPad Yellowish Display and Backlight Bleeding is that situation likely to improve with LG Displays.
If I am not wrong the entire displays of the iPad-2 were supplied by LG Displays. And I quite liked the displays made by LG. initially there were reports of Backlight Bleeding with the iPad-2 aswell but it slowly diminished. I personally quite liked and would prefer the Displays made by LG than by Sammie !
I am planning to buy the New iPad but right now am in a Dilemma that should I buy it right now or should I plan it in the first week of July-2012 or August-2012 which would mark 6 months from the Launch of the New iPad so positively the production would have stabilised, inital manufacturing hiccups would have been sorted out and most importantly as I said most likely there is also a possibility of coming across a Retina Display made by LG then by Sammie Boy :-) You suck Sammie !
Just bought two iPad 2's for the kids. One has a perfect screen one has a huge light leak all along the side above the home button. Probably not bother to return it. The iPad 3 I bought myself though is probably going back. There is this blotch on the side of the screen that makes text look fuzzy and whie backgrounds look yellowish. Anyone else had that problem on a iPad 3?
I am planning to buy the New iPad but right now am in a Dilemma that should I buy it right now or should I plan it in the first week of July-2012 or August-2012 which would mark 6 months from the Launch of the New iPad so positively the production would have stabilised, inital manufacturing hiccups would have been sorted out and most importantly as I said most likely there is also a possibility of coming across a Retina Display made by LG then by Sammie Boy :-) You suck Sammie !
You're not a very bright person. Other components will still be made by Samsung. If you disliked them for a real reason, that would be one thing. Instead you dislike them because of the Apple fan site narratives. Anyway... LG does produce panels for a lot of top brands. Many of them make their own modifications, but use the LG sourced panels to control costs. Previously it was mostly LG with IPS vs. Samsung with PVA. IPS had superior viewing angles and better color stability, so it was used for higher end displays although not favored among gamers.
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Originally Posted by bigdaddyp
Just bought two iPad 2's for the kids. One has a perfect screen one has a huge light leak all along the side above the home button. Probably not bother to return it. The iPad 3 I bought myself though is probably going back. There is this blotch on the side of the screen that makes text look fuzzy and whie backgrounds look yellowish. Anyone else had that problem on a iPad 3?
I think the iPad 2 was still using IPS displays from LG. Given that they changed the design considerably this round, yields are still most likely low. I'm not sure on text looking fuzzy. There are many possible reasons beyond the base hardware. Anyway the yellowish thing is easier to comment on. On any of these displays, they would have to test and set the hardware response. I'm not sure if they're adjusting it during assembly after the backlight is fitted (most likely at Foxconn) or how their assembly process is working. It's quite likely that the yellow thing will eventually be resolved by tweaking testing methods or hardware settings at the factory. Dealing with a much wider gamut may have thrown them off, and this problem has been mentioned before. I would suggest returning and just holding off for a while on a repurchase. I've read of some people exchanging many ipads hoping for a perfect one, but it's likely that the technology being used just isn't there yet.
So a Forest Gump famous screen quote is "life was like a box of chocolates you never know what sort of screen you would get"
The brand might be in question, but for the most part, it probably shouldn't matter. I imagine that some batches are out of spec, but most of them should be good.
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This is the credited response and warrants ending any further discussion of blame on Samsung.
I love how when things go wrong it doesn't occur to a fanboy that any such fault lies with Apple and not Samsung. Most people here coming up with retarded conspiracy theories have probably never handled a supply contract in their entire lives.
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Originally Posted by lkrupp
Samsung wouldn't intentionally be dragging its feet on the displays in order to limit iPad production until they come out with their own competing product, would they? Naw, perish the thought.
Tough to pinpoint where to start with respect to everything that's wrong with this comment. Let me guess. Didn't go to college?
It's people like you who give reasonable, bona fide Apple fans a bad name.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
No, it doesn't…
Because Steve Jobs said so?
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Fill their contracts… well enough. Doesn't mean they're putting their heart into it. "No pressing need", as it were, when things go wrong.
Supply contracts typically come with compensatory clauses that parties can invoke when there's a breach.
There's no expectation placed upon Samsung to place their heart into something. Otherwise, I'm not sure what you're getting at, let alone whether you even know what you're talking about.
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Originally Posted by Jack99
Because Steve Jobs said so?
Because give me a single use case for an iPad 1.8" smaller than the existing one that couldn't be fulfilled by existing product.
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Originally Posted by Jack99
Indeed. Love how everyone thinks Samsung is one, huge monolith. Samsung's components division needs to make money, and Samsung and Apple are currently in a supplier relationship where Samsung relies upon years of reputation for reliability. When there are billions of dollars of component sales at stake, Samsung won't one day decide to renege on its agreements.
As difficult as it may be for some people here to believe, this isn't some sandbox fight.
You guys clearly have no idea how South Korean conglomerates like Hyundai, Samssung, LG, Daewoo are organized. No, unfortuntely there is no such wall or division between most large chebols in Korea - they are all owned and tightly managed by the same families or a small clique of best buddies and significant others.
Sure, if Apple could sell 50M iPads this year, that alone is 50M * $85 or $4+B worth of contract for Samsung, so why refuse such a lucrative deal? For Samsung though, it's a chump change ($4B out of $160B), but at the same time, if Apple keeps pissing off Samsung with pissy lawsuits, Samsung doesn't have to bid on Apple's contract to begin with. As the new iPad display fiasco has shown, Samsung's reputation is second to none. Samsung's reputation is already well established - it's in fact one of the largest electronic companies in the world.
Unfortunately for Apple isheeps, Samsung's fate is not in Apple's hand. Again, Samsung is now #1 smartphone / #2 overall phone makers in the world. It can andwill generate enough internal demand to divert its production capacity ; in last Q1 alone, Samsung Electronics' revenue jumped 20% and profit by 100% largely due to its increasing mobile sales. Apple has managed to slow down Samsung's entry to the tablet market with frivolous anti-competitive lawsuits, but it won't last long.
Glad I got mine, was worth upgrading from an iPad 2.
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Originally Posted by AppleInsider
Kuo said LG Display is expected to begin providing screens in the second quarter of calendar 2012
Second Quarter of Calendar 2012 is that April- ? May-? or June-? and does that mean with LG ready to start supplying the Retina Displays for the New iPad the screen display issues which people are facing right now with the New iPad Yellowish Display and Backlight Bleeding is that situation likely to improve with LG Displays.
If I am not wrong the entire displays of the iPad-2 were supplied by LG Displays. And I quite liked the displays made by LG. initially there were reports of Backlight Bleeding with the iPad-2 aswell but it slowly diminished. I personally quite liked and would prefer the Displays made by LG than by Sammie !
I am planning to buy the New iPad but right now am in a Dilemma that should I buy it right now or should I plan it in the first week of July-2012 or August-2012 which would mark 6 months from the Launch of the New iPad so positively the production would have stabilised, inital manufacturing hiccups would have been sorted out and most importantly as I said most likely there is also a possibility of coming across a Retina Display made by LG then by Sammie Boy :-) You suck Sammie !
I've said this before (before launch of the new iPad) - Retina Display on a medium to large screen is a remarkable engineering feat. This is why it was only launched by Apple well over a year after initial rumors.
If this rumor of low yield is true, it is not surprising. This should also put to rest the notion of iMacs or Cinema displays with Retina Display being launched anytime soon. Those who even dream it do not understand engineering.
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Originally Posted by Aizmov
Glad I got mine, was worth upgrading from an iPad 2.
I agree - this is a remarkable revolution.
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Originally Posted by augustya
Second Quarter of Calendar 2012 is that April- ? May-? or June-? and does that mean with LG ready to start supplying the Retina Displays for the New iPad the screen display issues which people are facing right now with the New iPad Yellowish Display and Backlight Bleeding is that situation likely to improve with LG Displays.
If I am not wrong the entire displays of the iPad-2 were supplied by LG Displays. And I quite liked the displays made by LG. initially there were reports of Backlight Bleeding with the iPad-2 aswell but it slowly diminished. I personally quite liked and would prefer the Displays made by LG than by Sammie !
I am planning to buy the New iPad but right now am in a Dilemma that should I buy it right now or should I plan it in the first week of July-2012 or August-2012 which would mark 6 months from the Launch of the New iPad so positively the production would have stabilised, inital manufacturing hiccups would have been sorted out and most importantly as I said most likely there is also a possibility of coming across a Retina Display made by LG then by Sammie Boy :-) You suck Sammie !
ROFL!! You fanbois are not very bright.
LG had many problems manufacturing Apple's iPad 2 last year and Apple had to ask another supplier to fill the shortfall created by the light-bleeding problem. Guess who that supplier was - Yes, it was Samsung. If there is no blacklight bleeding problem on your iPad, it's likely that it's manufactured by Samsung. It's not at all surprising that LG is still having problems with the new iPad's display.
Now, if your goal is to boycott Samsung altogether, on whatever frivolous ground, you should seriously consider stop using iPhones 3, 3S, 4, 4S or iPad 1, 2, new. Apple's new iPad for instance uses Samsung's CPU A5X, NAND flash, DRAM, display and battery, or roughly 50% of new iPad's entire BOM. So you might as well just forget about i* altogether.
Of course, lucky for Apple, there seems to be no shortage of fanbois who are just as happy with backlight bleeding or other defects.
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Originally Posted by tooltalk
ROFL!! You fanbois are not very bright.
LG had many problems manufacturing Apple's iPad 2 last year and Apple had to ask another supplier to fill the shortfall created by the light-bleeding problem. Guess who that supplier was - Yes, it was Samsung. If there is no blacklight bleeding problem on your iPad, it's likely that it's manufactured by Samsung. It's not at all surprising that LG is still having problems with the new iPad's display.
Now, if your goal is to boycott Samsung altogether, on whatever frivolous ground, you should seriously consider stop using iPhones 3, 3S, 4, 4S or iPad 1, 2, new. Apple's new iPad for instance uses Samsung's CPU A5X, NAND flash, DRAM, display and battery, or roughly 50% of new iPad's entire BOM. So you might as well just forget about i* altogether.
Of course, lucky for Apple, there seems to be no shortage of fanbois who are just as happy with backlight bleeding or other defects.
Well I have reservations against Samsung only for the Display, they maybe good with the chips and other components that they are supplying for the iPad but Display Oh Please ! not by Samsung ! AFAIK iPhone 4s Displays have been supplied by LG and Sharp I have never heard a Samsung Name in a iPhone 4s display ! And a little bit of Backlight Bleeding is still accepateble but no ways I would accept a yellowsh looking display screen, that would literally drive me crazy ! No ways !
Just bought two iPad 2's for the kids. One has a perfect screen one has a huge light leak all along the side above the home button. Probably not bother to return it. The iPad 3 I bought myself though is probably going back. There is this blotch on the side of the screen that makes text look fuzzy and whie backgrounds look yellowish. Anyone else had that problem on a iPad 3?
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Originally Posted by augustya
I am planning to buy the New iPad but right now am in a Dilemma that should I buy it right now or should I plan it in the first week of July-2012 or August-2012 which would mark 6 months from the Launch of the New iPad so positively the production would have stabilised, inital manufacturing hiccups would have been sorted out and most importantly as I said most likely there is also a possibility of coming across a Retina Display made by LG then by Sammie Boy :-) You suck Sammie !
You're not a very bright person. Other components will still be made by Samsung. If you disliked them for a real reason, that would be one thing. Instead you dislike them because of the Apple fan site narratives. Anyway... LG does produce panels for a lot of top brands. Many of them make their own modifications, but use the LG sourced panels to control costs. Previously it was mostly LG with IPS vs. Samsung with PVA. IPS had superior viewing angles and better color stability, so it was used for higher end displays although not favored among gamers.
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Originally Posted by bigdaddyp
Just bought two iPad 2's for the kids. One has a perfect screen one has a huge light leak all along the side above the home button. Probably not bother to return it. The iPad 3 I bought myself though is probably going back. There is this blotch on the side of the screen that makes text look fuzzy and whie backgrounds look yellowish. Anyone else had that problem on a iPad 3?
I think the iPad 2 was still using IPS displays from LG. Given that they changed the design considerably this round, yields are still most likely low. I'm not sure on text looking fuzzy. There are many possible reasons beyond the base hardware. Anyway the yellowish thing is easier to comment on. On any of these displays, they would have to test and set the hardware response. I'm not sure if they're adjusting it during assembly after the backlight is fitted (most likely at Foxconn) or how their assembly process is working. It's quite likely that the yellow thing will eventually be resolved by tweaking testing methods or hardware settings at the factory. Dealing with a much wider gamut may have thrown them off, and this problem has been mentioned before. I would suggest returning and just holding off for a while on a repurchase. I've read of some people exchanging many ipads hoping for a perfect one, but it's likely that the technology being used just isn't there yet.
The brand might be in question, but for the most part, it probably shouldn't matter. I imagine that some batches are out of spec, but most of them should be good.