What are you talking about. A stock iPhone needs the home button. That's why it has the home button. You cannot get to home with many apps without clicking the home button.
Well, I'm an idiot. Guess that's what happens when you only have a first-gen iPhone running a modified version of iOS 5 to go off of, eh?
I keep thinking the iPad gets what the iPhone gets… I haven't touched my Home Button in a VERY long time… on my iPad. I guess I never paid attention to how subconscious using the Home Button is on my iPhone…
<p> </p><div class="quote-container"> <span>Quote:</span> <div class="quote-block"> Originally Posted by <strong>Tallest Skil</strong> <a href="/t/149547/purported-next-gen-iphone-home-button-has-modified-design#post_2099736"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" /></a><br /> <br /> <p> </p> <p> Because it is, and has been possible since iOS 4.2, stock, no jailbreak.</p> </div></div><p> </p><p> What are you talking about. A stock iPhone needs the home button. That's why it has the home button. You cannot get to home with many apps without clicking the home button.</p><p> </p><p> You're not talking about those accessibility options are you? Cause they're very different. </p><p> </p><p> The home button has a few uses that aren't covered by the multitouch gestures. For example, when you hold the homescreen icons to go into edit mode, you pretty much have to press the home button to get out of that mode.</p><p> </p><p> Without Activator you cannot do away with the home button 100%. It just isn't possible.</p>
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it can actually be done on a stock iPhone without physically touching the home screen button:
Step 1: Go to "Settings > General > Accessibility > Assistive Touch" and turn on Assistive Touch.
Step 2: Touch the circle in the Assistive Touch floating icon and choose Home.
Step 3: Hold down an app icon until they jiggle.
Step 4: Repeat step 2. Low and behold the app icons stop jiggling (technical term for exiting edit mode;)
You can also record gestures and save them as favourites.
I'm based in Singapore and I see huge numbers of people using Assistive Touch for the virtual home button once their physical one starts to stick.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it can actually be done on a stock iPhone without physically touching the home screen button:
Step 1: Go to "Settings > General > Accessibility > Assistive Touch" and turn on Assistive Touch.
Step 2: Touch the circle in the Assistive Touch floating icon and choose Home.
Step 3: Hold down an app icon until they jiggle.
Step 4: Repeat step 2. Low and behold the app icons stop jiggling (technical term for exiting edit mode;)
You can also record gestures and save them as favourites.
I'm based in Singapore and I see huge numbers of people using Assistive Touch for the virtual home button once their physical one starts to stick.
Cheers Matthew
Assistive touch really isn't good at all. Number one, I don't want floating dots on my screen (those are meant for people who really have no choice) and number two there are WAY more limitations than the one I listed. Extremely limited. I know because I tried assistive touch many times so I could have an excuse NOT to JB. Unfortunately it didn't cut it. If you haven't used Activator then you can't begin to appreciate the differences. Why do you think thousands of people are using it? No one knows iPhone features better than jailbreakers (that's why Apple hires JBers) so there's obviously a reason why people think assitive touch doesn't cut it.
Holy crap. The shape of a single small button is headline worthy? I don't know who's lamer, AI for posting this article, or me for reading it (and posting about it)
What are you talking about. A stock iPhone needs the home button. That's why it has the home button. You cannot get to home with many apps without clicking the home button.
You're not talking about those accessibility options are you? Cause they're very different.
The home button has a few uses that aren't covered by the multitouch gestures. For example, when you hold the homescreen icons to go into edit mode, you pretty much have to press the home button to get out of that mode.
Without Activator you cannot do away with the home button 100%. It just isn't possible.
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Originally Posted by success
Assistive touch really isn't good at all. Number one, I don't want floating dots on my screen (those are meant for people who really have no choice) and number two there are WAY more limitations than the one I listed. Extremely limited. I know because I tried assistive touch many times so I could have an excuse NOT to JB. Unfortunately it didn't cut it. If you haven't used Activator then you can't begin to appreciate the differences. Why do you think thousands of people are using it? No one knows iPhone features better than jailbreakers (that's why Apple hires JBers) so there's obviously a reason why people think assitive touch doesn't cut it.
My mistake. There was me thinking that we were addressing your point that you "couldn't do away with the home button except by using Activator" rather than "comparing the functionality of Activator vs. Assistive Touch". Doh!
There are still rumors about a physical home button going way entirely. Either way, I hope the redesigned Home button, physical or not, is more durable. The one on my iPhone 4 seems to not work about half the time anymore.
There are still rumors about a physical home button going way entirely. Either way, I hope the redesigned Home button, physical or not, is more durable. The one on my iPhone 4 seems to not work about half the time anymore.
I think the home button needs to be capacitive. I've found the responsiveness of the physical home button to vary dramatically between iPhones and it doesn't offer a consistent experience.
If they made the square shape into a sensor bar, they could detect swipes very easily without doing full multitouch e.g if you swipe right to left to go home, you would touch the right side of the square then the left. You could swipe up for the multi-tasking bar.
It can also behave like the normal button so people are immediately familiar with it.
The main annoyance with the physical button is when it comes to things like Siri, having to initiate it with the home button and then using the screen button to talk. They could have a swipe-down to talk gesture, which I imagine would make it easier for blind people to use as they can feel for the home button.
This also gives them more room inside the phone as they don't have to accommodate the button going inside the device.
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Originally Posted by success
What are you talking about. A stock iPhone needs the home button. That's why it has the home button. You cannot get to home with many apps without clicking the home button.
Well, I'm an idiot. Guess that's what happens when you only have a first-gen iPhone running a modified version of iOS 5 to go off of, eh?
I keep thinking the iPad gets what the iPhone gets… I haven't touched my Home Button in a VERY long time… on my iPad. I guess I never paid attention to how subconscious using the Home Button is on my iPhone…
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it can actually be done on a stock iPhone without physically touching the home screen button:
Step 1: Go to "Settings > General > Accessibility > Assistive Touch" and turn on Assistive Touch.
Step 2: Touch the circle in the Assistive Touch floating icon and choose Home.
Step 3: Hold down an app icon until they jiggle.
Step 4: Repeat step 2. Low and behold the app icons stop jiggling (technical term for exiting edit mode;)
You can also record gestures and save them as favourites.
I'm based in Singapore and I see huge numbers of people using Assistive Touch for the virtual home button once their physical one starts to stick.
Cheers Matthew
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Originally Posted by binex
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it can actually be done on a stock iPhone without physically touching the home screen button:
Step 1: Go to "Settings > General > Accessibility > Assistive Touch" and turn on Assistive Touch.
Step 2: Touch the circle in the Assistive Touch floating icon and choose Home.
Step 3: Hold down an app icon until they jiggle.
Step 4: Repeat step 2. Low and behold the app icons stop jiggling (technical term for exiting edit mode;)
You can also record gestures and save them as favourites.
I'm based in Singapore and I see huge numbers of people using Assistive Touch for the virtual home button once their physical one starts to stick.
Cheers Matthew
Assistive touch really isn't good at all. Number one, I don't want floating dots on my screen (those are meant for people who really have no choice) and number two there are WAY more limitations than the one I listed. Extremely limited. I know because I tried assistive touch many times so I could have an excuse NOT to JB. Unfortunately it didn't cut it. If you haven't used Activator then you can't begin to appreciate the differences. Why do you think thousands of people are using it? No one knows iPhone features better than jailbreakers (that's why Apple hires JBers) so there's obviously a reason why people think assitive touch doesn't cut it.
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Originally Posted by Just_Me
has the button change since the first iphone?
I have no idea, all I know is that the iPhone 4 is only about 1.5 years old.
Holy crap. The shape of a single small button is headline worthy? I don't know who's lamer, AI for posting this article, or me for reading it (and posting about it)
Quote:
Originally Posted by success
What are you talking about. A stock iPhone needs the home button. That's why it has the home button. You cannot get to home with many apps without clicking the home button.
You're not talking about those accessibility options are you? Cause they're very different.
The home button has a few uses that aren't covered by the multitouch gestures. For example, when you hold the homescreen icons to go into edit mode, you pretty much have to press the home button to get out of that mode.
Without Activator you cannot do away with the home button 100%. It just isn't possible.
Quote:
Originally Posted by success
Assistive touch really isn't good at all. Number one, I don't want floating dots on my screen (those are meant for people who really have no choice) and number two there are WAY more limitations than the one I listed. Extremely limited. I know because I tried assistive touch many times so I could have an excuse NOT to JB. Unfortunately it didn't cut it. If you haven't used Activator then you can't begin to appreciate the differences. Why do you think thousands of people are using it? No one knows iPhone features better than jailbreakers (that's why Apple hires JBers) so there's obviously a reason why people think assitive touch doesn't cut it.
My mistake. There was me thinking that we were addressing your point that you "couldn't do away with the home button except by using Activator" rather than "comparing the functionality of Activator vs. Assistive Touch". Doh!
There are still rumors about a physical home button going way entirely. Either way, I hope the redesigned Home button, physical or not, is more durable. The one on my iPhone 4 seems to not work about half the time anymore.
I think the home button needs to be capacitive. I've found the responsiveness of the physical home button to vary dramatically between iPhones and it doesn't offer a consistent experience.
If they made the square shape into a sensor bar, they could detect swipes very easily without doing full multitouch e.g if you swipe right to left to go home, you would touch the right side of the square then the left. You could swipe up for the multi-tasking bar.
It can also behave like the normal button so people are immediately familiar with it.
The main annoyance with the physical button is when it comes to things like Siri, having to initiate it with the home button and then using the screen button to talk. They could have a swipe-down to talk gesture, which I imagine would make it easier for blind people to use as they can feel for the home button.
This also gives them more room inside the phone as they don't have to accommodate the button going inside the device.