I mean the drawings of the hideous "modern" cafe idea Apple had. It was from before Steve's return, is all I remember. Gaudy neon everywhere, standard juxtaposed fluorescent '80s colors all over… CRT televisions hanging from the ceiling…
<p> </p><div class="quote-container"> <span>Quote:</span> <div class="quote-block"> Originally Posted by <strong>davidjl</strong> <a href="/t/149638/apple-plans-to-block-competitors-prying-ears-with-new-off-campus-cafeteria#post_2101364"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" /></a><br /> <br /> <p> Maybe they can build a bar as well.</p> </div></div><p> </p><p> lol!</p>
They'll call it "The Sidebar", and like their Mac OS, all items served in this bar will be devoid of color.
Huh... I wonder how this will relate to Cafe Macs, which I was under the impression served largely the same purpose.
Maybe employees can't bring outside guests to this one? Amusing, given Cafe Macs is behind security, and the title suggests this one will be an independent building.
(P.S. This new template is so awkward. It feels incomplete.)
Interesting that as long you are an Apple employee the restrictions are made to sound light. I would have thought that even among different departments it would all be very hush-hush.
I'd think a bar called The Guinness Bar located in Cupertino would probably do pretty well. Using the Bowen Knot would be a good logo, too. I don't think the Bowen Knot is Irish but it's close enough for Americans.
Ah, okay... still not news to me. The only thing this will do is ease the "congestion" at Caffe Macs. If you get there after 11:30am, it's nearly impossible to find a seat. Woopdie doo.
I have been a user of Apple products since the 1980s, and obviously have high regard for the company and their products, but this business of separating employees in their free lunch time from the outside world seems a bit cultish and over the top. It kind of gives me the creeps to know the company behaves this way toward their employees, regardless of the dubious benefits from securing their technology secrets.
but this business of separating employees in their free lunch time from the outside world seems a bit cultish and over the top.
Every company does this.
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It kind of gives me the creeps to know the company behaves this way toward their employees, regardless of the dubious benefits from securing their technology secrets.
Let's see, Apple was 90 days from bankruptcy when Steve came back and is worth, what, $560 billion now…
So these "dubious benefits" are worth roughly $560 billion dollars.
Or do you not think that intellectual property needs to be protected? Or maybe that it doesn't have worth as just an idea?
I have been a user of Apple products since the 1980s, and obviously have high regard for the company and their products, but this business of separating employees in their free lunch time from the outside world seems a bit cultish and over the top. It kind of gives me the creeps to know the company behaves this way toward their employees, regardless of the dubious benefits from securing their technology secrets.
I agree. When you become so isolated from "ordinary" people, you forget how ordinary people who are not tech freaks live their lives and use products. And then you begin to make mistakes in product strategy, UI, etc. It also strikes me as a bit paranoid. The funny thing is that this strikes me more as something that Steve would have tried to implement.
There's nothing wrong with having "another" internal cafeteria, but the reason most companies have "sponsored" cafeterias is to keep people on campus or in the building because they then spend less time on lunch, not because they're paranoid about what they're going to talk about. What's next? Making employees eat dinner on campus as well and/or banning them from public restaurants even in their off hours? Creating on-campus housing and forcing employees who work on new products to live there? Barbed wire? Surgically implanting monitoring devices?
Ridiculous. You guys are living a reality distortion field. Think logically on your own for once.
The Mercury News reporter has an imagination and the OPs post is inaccurate. They are building the new cafeteria because Caffe Macs is too small. They have cashiers and serving stations on the pathways surrounding caffe macs. It's been getting worse and worse with all the new hires. This new cafeteria is for the overflow coming from the half dozen buildings in the vicinity of Bandley Dr. and Valley Green, not because of espionage.
The OP wrote "...non-Apple employees will not be welcome there." Where in the Mercury News article does it say that?
It does say"..Cupertino residents and Apple-loving tourists, however, can forget about dining at the cafeteria. The eatery will be a place for employees to freely talk business without fear of eavesdropping from competitors." But employees can do that already at Caffe Macs. At Caffe Macs you can bring guests. Why wouldn't it be the same for this new cafeteria? But the OP wrongly interpreted it as "no one but employees can eat there."
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Dang it, I'm trying to find those drawings from the 1980s or early '90s of that prototype Apple Cafe, but I can't find them ANYWHERE!
http://dapplecafe.com/
http://www.yelp.com/biz/red-apple-cafe-placerville
http://www.thebigapplecafe.com/
http://www.applecafebakery.com/
http://bibosportland.com/
http://www.urbanspoon.com/r/3/21165/restaurant/Midtown-West/Apple-Cafe-New-York
And dozens more.
But I assume that's not what you're referring to.
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But I assume that's not what you're referring to.
The saying is "prying eyes". There is no such thing as "prying ears".
They'll call it "The Sidebar", and like their Mac OS, all items served in this bar will be devoid of color.
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They'll call it "The Sidebar", and like their Mac OS, all items served in this bar will be devoid of color.
The bar itself will be made of quartz with this design:
Huh... I wonder how this will relate to Cafe Macs, which I was under the impression served largely the same purpose.
Maybe employees can't bring outside guests to this one? Amusing, given Cafe Macs is behind security, and the title suggests this one will be an independent building.
(P.S. This new template is so awkward. It feels incomplete.)
Yes, a bar where iPhone prototypes can be safely left behind.
LOL You win this thread. And only your 2nd post, too.
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Originally Posted by davidjl
Maybe they can build a bar as well.
And they'll only serve Geniuses.
I'd think a bar called The Guinness Bar located in Cupertino would probably do pretty well. Using the Bowen Knot would be a good logo, too. I don't think the Bowen Knot is Irish but it's close enough for Americans.
Ah, okay... still not news to me. The only thing this will do is ease the "congestion" at Caffe Macs. If you get there after 11:30am, it's nearly impossible to find a seat. Woopdie doo.
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Originally Posted by agaleotti
but this business of separating employees in their free lunch time from the outside world seems a bit cultish and over the top.
Every company does this.
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It kind of gives me the creeps to know the company behaves this way toward their employees, regardless of the dubious benefits from securing their technology secrets.
Let's see, Apple was 90 days from bankruptcy when Steve came back and is worth, what, $560 billion now…
So these "dubious benefits" are worth roughly $560 billion dollars.
Or do you not think that intellectual property needs to be protected? Or maybe that it doesn't have worth as just an idea?
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Originally Posted by agaleotti
I have been a user of Apple products since the 1980s, and obviously have high regard for the company and their products, but this business of separating employees in their free lunch time from the outside world seems a bit cultish and over the top. It kind of gives me the creeps to know the company behaves this way toward their employees, regardless of the dubious benefits from securing their technology secrets.
I agree. When you become so isolated from "ordinary" people, you forget how ordinary people who are not tech freaks live their lives and use products. And then you begin to make mistakes in product strategy, UI, etc. It also strikes me as a bit paranoid. The funny thing is that this strikes me more as something that Steve would have tried to implement.
There's nothing wrong with having "another" internal cafeteria, but the reason most companies have "sponsored" cafeterias is to keep people on campus or in the building because they then spend less time on lunch, not because they're paranoid about what they're going to talk about. What's next? Making employees eat dinner on campus as well and/or banning them from public restaurants even in their off hours? Creating on-campus housing and forcing employees who work on new products to live there? Barbed wire? Surgically implanting monitoring devices?
Ridiculous. You guys are living a reality distortion field. Think logically on your own for once.
The Mercury News reporter has an imagination and the OPs post is inaccurate. They are building the new cafeteria because Caffe Macs is too small. They have cashiers and serving stations on the pathways surrounding caffe macs. It's been getting worse and worse with all the new hires. This new cafeteria is for the overflow coming from the half dozen buildings in the vicinity of Bandley Dr. and Valley Green, not because of espionage.
The OP wrote "...non-Apple employees will not be welcome there." Where in the Mercury News article does it say that?
It does say"..Cupertino residents and Apple-loving tourists, however, can forget about dining at the cafeteria. The eatery will be a place for employees to freely talk business without fear of eavesdropping from competitors." But employees can do that already at Caffe Macs. At Caffe Macs you can bring guests. Why wouldn't it be the same for this new cafeteria? But the OP wrongly interpreted it as "no one but employees can eat there."
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Originally Posted by BigBillyGoatGruff
Why not just make a Nazi analogy?
Somebody just couldn't resist -- Godwin's Law strikes again!