Are you not aware that Apple is in the works to carve out spaces for Apple Stores inside of Wal-Mart and Target stores? Do you think that is so they can sell iPhones and iPads there?
Yes, given that we've already seen that is the case.
This is why the Internet is a bad thing. Before the Internet there were only newspapers, magazines and TV news. The available space or time meant it had to be reserved for real and relevant information. Now with billions of web pages everybody who has something to say gets to. People who in the past who would never have listened to "some analyst at JP Morgan" or devote the resources to him, now see it all as click bait. Unfortunately the Internet has room for "everybody's opinion". Including mine.
5 years ago, an Apple cell phone seemed pointless to me too. However, I've learned. If you have not, then sit on the sidelines and watch the show.
The television industry is a very badly designed business model. The cable co's force you to buy channels you'll never watch, and force you to watch commercials you don't want to see on the channels you do want to watch, among other things. While over charging for the whole mess.
You clearly don't get that Apple is very, very different and unique. Once in a life time type of company.
The television industry is a very badly designed business model. The cable co's force you to buy channels you'll never watch, and force you to watch commercials you don't want to see on the channels you do want to watch, among other things. While over charging for the whole mess.
Agreed.
But explain to me why I should waste money on a display panel of a quality I do not choose and at a price that benefits neither myself nor the company selling it to change that?
We already have the solution. Apple just isn't doing anything with it.
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You clearly don't get that Apple is very, very different and unique.
Sure I don't. You clearly don't get that Apple is NOT being themselves about this whole thing. We need to take a step equivalent to that of the iTunes Music Store in 2003.
5 years ago, an Apple cell phone seemed pointless to me too. However, I've learned. If you have not, then sit on the sidelines and watch the show.
The television industry is a very badly designed business model. The cable co's force you to buy channels you'll never watch, and force you to watch commercials you don't want to see on the channels you do want to watch, among other things. While over charging for the whole mess.
You clearly don't get that Apple is very, very different and unique. Once in a life time type of company.
Commercials pay for the shows. If you don't the commercials, then the show is going to cost a lot more or the show won't be made.
Commercials pay for the shows. If you don't the commercials, then the show is going to cost a lot more or the show won't be made.
I understand why cable works that way currently, but that does not mean it's the best way. But for people who can't think outside the box, it's the only way, until some company comes along with a revolutionary new and better way of doing something that is not very good to begin with.
Commercials pay for the shows. If you don't the commercials, then the show is going to cost a lot more or the show won't be made.
I understand why cable works that way currently, but that does not mean it's the best way. But for people who can't think outside the box, it's the only way, until some company comes along with a revolutionary new and better way of doing something that is not very good to begin with.
But explain to me why I should waste money on a display panel of a quality I do not choose and at a price that benefits neither myself nor the company selling it to change that?
You should not waste your money on buying the product, if you do not want it, but it does not make an argument that others will follow what you decide for yourself.
Sure I don't. You clearly don't get that Apple is NOT being themselves about this whole thing. We need to take a step equivalent to that of the iTunes Music Store in 2003.
iTunes, EXACTLY!!!
They ARE being themselves, you're just not seeing it.
iTunes is just a software solution for their hardware at the time (iPod) to deliver "other people's content" to the device.
The iPod grew up to be an iPhone, the iPhone gained a cousin called the iPad, and iTunes has expanded it's collection of other people's content to deliver to iPod, iPhone, iPad, and iMac's & Mac Books, and now will deliver to the iTV, or iPanel as some have suggested.
I buy whatever shows I want, not what the cable co's shove down my throat. And the major tv networks will follow. This will also free up your entertainment center of your, DVR, DVD, cable box, any sort of media sharing hardware that you may have, and about 100 feet of cable/wires.
You should not waste your money on buying the product, if you do not want it, but it does not make an argument that others will follow what you decide for yourself.
I'm making a nigh-unshakeable argument that there is zero purpose or meaning to an Apple television. If you'd like to tell me what a $2,000 TV can do that a $99 box couldn't do better, I'm all ears.
"We are not sure that the Apple premium could prevail in the TV market, unless there is a radical change of the user interface, integration of the TV programming and data content, and use of gesture or voice control," he said.
Hmmm... Radical change, gesture or voice control. Was anyone expecting anything less?
My money says that Apple has a totally new way of controlling the TV. It will be called the iWalk. People will actually get up from their sofa and walk across the room and mechanically adjust the volume and change channels. People will once again interact with their TVs on a personal basis. Imagine, during a horror flick, if enough people screamed, "Don't go in the basement!" The actor on the screen would actually stop and think about it.
I understand why cable works that way currently, but that does not mean it's the best way. But for people who can't think outside the box, it's the only way, until some company comes along with a revolutionary new and better way of doing something that is not very good to begin with.
Enter Apple. Stay tuned . . .
Not very good? Depends on who you ask. The best way would be if it was free for me and no commercials. How is that for out of the box and revolutionary?
I understand why cable works that way currently, but that does not mean it's the best way. But for people who can't think outside the box, it's the only way, until some company comes along with a revolutionary new and better way of doing something that is not very good to begin with.
Enter Apple. Stay tuned . . .
Oh yea, just look at the music industry and how well they're doing now because of Apple, its a no-brainer for the TV industry to follow suit.
I understand why cable works that way currently, but that does not mean it's the best way. But for people who can't think outside the box, it's the only way, until some company comes along with a revolutionary new and better way of doing something that is not very good to begin with.
Enter Apple. Stay tuned . . .
Mkay...cable networks spends $20B a year on content. They generate $22B in ad revenue and $25B in fees from companies like Comcast and DirectTV.
So, to get access to the same content as Comcast Apple would have to pay about the same as Comcast (around 7 billion). Assuming the content producers would sell it to them but lets assume that even though Netflix has some problems doing so.
Now Apple has to make 7 billion a year on content to break even on that expense. Why does that strike me as highly improbable?
For cable networks to move to a new business model it has to generate $48B in revenue a year. Why does that strike me as highly improbable?
You know, it's pretty arrogant to imply that folks that disagree with a rumor can't think outside the box. There have been lots of rumors that haven't panned out and an Apple HDTV has been a perennial favorite since 2006.
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Originally Posted by joey15219
Are you not aware that Apple is in the works to carve out spaces for Apple Stores inside of Wal-Mart and Target stores? Do you think that is so they can sell iPhones and iPads there?
Yes, given that we've already seen that is the case.
A television remains pointless, really.
This is why the Internet is a bad thing. Before the Internet there were only newspapers, magazines and TV news. The available space or time meant it had to be reserved for real and relevant information. Now with billions of web pages everybody who has something to say gets to. People who in the past who would never have listened to "some analyst at JP Morgan" or devote the resources to him, now see it all as click bait. Unfortunately the Internet has room for "everybody's opinion". Including mine.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
A television remains pointless, really.
5 years ago, an Apple cell phone seemed pointless to me too. However, I've learned. If you have not, then sit on the sidelines and watch the show.
The television industry is a very badly designed business model. The cable co's force you to buy channels you'll never watch, and force you to watch commercials you don't want to see on the channels you do want to watch, among other things. While over charging for the whole mess.
You clearly don't get that Apple is very, very different and unique. Once in a life time type of company.
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Originally Posted by joey15219
The television industry is a very badly designed business model. The cable co's force you to buy channels you'll never watch, and force you to watch commercials you don't want to see on the channels you do want to watch, among other things. While over charging for the whole mess.
Agreed.
But explain to me why I should waste money on a display panel of a quality I do not choose and at a price that benefits neither myself nor the company selling it to change that?
We already have the solution. Apple just isn't doing anything with it.
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You clearly don't get that Apple is very, very different and unique.
Sure I don't.
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Originally Posted by joey15219
5 years ago, an Apple cell phone seemed pointless to me too. However, I've learned. If you have not, then sit on the sidelines and watch the show.
The television industry is a very badly designed business model. The cable co's force you to buy channels you'll never watch, and force you to watch commercials you don't want to see on the channels you do want to watch, among other things. While over charging for the whole mess.
You clearly don't get that Apple is very, very different and unique. Once in a life time type of company.
Commercials pay for the shows. If you don't the commercials, then the show is going to cost a lot more or the show won't be made.
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Originally Posted by pt123
Commercials pay for the shows. If you don't the commercials, then the show is going to cost a lot more or the show won't be made.
I understand why cable works that way currently, but that does not mean it's the best way. But for people who can't think outside the box, it's the only way, until some company comes along with a revolutionary new and better way of doing something that is not very good to begin with.
Enter Apple. Stay tuned . . .
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Originally Posted by pt123
Commercials pay for the shows. If you don't the commercials, then the show is going to cost a lot more or the show won't be made.
I understand why cable works that way currently, but that does not mean it's the best way. But for people who can't think outside the box, it's the only way, until some company comes along with a revolutionary new and better way of doing something that is not very good to begin with.
Enter Apple. Stay tuned . . .
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Agreed.
But explain to me why I should waste money on a display panel of a quality I do not choose and at a price that benefits neither myself nor the company selling it to change that?
You should not waste your money on buying the product, if you do not want it, but it does not make an argument that others will follow what you decide for yourself.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Sure I don't.
iTunes, EXACTLY!!!
They ARE being themselves, you're just not seeing it.
iTunes is just a software solution for their hardware at the time (iPod) to deliver "other people's content" to the device.
The iPod grew up to be an iPhone, the iPhone gained a cousin called the iPad, and iTunes has expanded it's collection of other people's content to deliver to iPod, iPhone, iPad, and iMac's & Mac Books, and now will deliver to the iTV, or iPanel as some have suggested.
I buy whatever shows I want, not what the cable co's shove down my throat. And the major tv networks will follow. This will also free up your entertainment center of your, DVR, DVD, cable box, any sort of media sharing hardware that you may have, and about 100 feet of cable/wires.
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Originally Posted by joey15219
You should not waste your money on buying the product, if you do not want it, but it does not make an argument that others will follow what you decide for yourself.
I'm making a nigh-unshakeable argument that there is zero purpose or meaning to an Apple television. If you'd like to tell me what a $2,000 TV can do that a $99 box couldn't do better, I'm all ears.
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Originally Posted by DCGOO
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"We are not sure that the Apple premium could prevail in the TV market, unless there is a radical change of the user interface, integration of the TV programming and data content, and use of gesture or voice control," he said.
Hmmm... Radical change, gesture or voice control. Was anyone expecting anything less?
My money says that Apple has a totally new way of controlling the TV. It will be called the iWalk. People will actually get up from their sofa and walk across the room and mechanically adjust the volume and change channels. People will once again interact with their TVs on a personal basis. Imagine, during a horror flick, if enough people screamed, "Don't go in the basement!" The actor on the screen would actually stop and think about it.
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Originally Posted by joey15219
I understand why cable works that way currently, but that does not mean it's the best way. But for people who can't think outside the box, it's the only way, until some company comes along with a revolutionary new and better way of doing something that is not very good to begin with.
Enter Apple. Stay tuned . . .
Not very good? Depends on who you ask. The best way would be if it was free for me and no commercials. How is that for out of the box and revolutionary?
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Originally Posted by joey15219
I understand why cable works that way currently, but that does not mean it's the best way. But for people who can't think outside the box, it's the only way, until some company comes along with a revolutionary new and better way of doing something that is not very good to begin with.
Enter Apple. Stay tuned . . .
Oh yea, just look at the music industry and how well they're doing now because of Apple, its a no-brainer for the TV industry to follow suit.
Quote:
Originally Posted by joey15219
I understand why cable works that way currently, but that does not mean it's the best way. But for people who can't think outside the box, it's the only way, until some company comes along with a revolutionary new and better way of doing something that is not very good to begin with.
Enter Apple. Stay tuned . . .
Mkay...cable networks spends $20B a year on content. They generate $22B in ad revenue and $25B in fees from companies like Comcast and DirectTV.
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/dec/08/business/la-fi-ct-cable-economics-20111208
So, to get access to the same content as Comcast Apple would have to pay about the same as Comcast (around 7 billion). Assuming the content producers would sell it to them but lets assume that even though Netflix has some problems doing so.
Now Apple has to make 7 billion a year on content to break even on that expense. Why does that strike me as highly improbable?
For cable networks to move to a new business model it has to generate $48B in revenue a year. Why does that strike me as highly improbable?
You know, it's pretty arrogant to imply that folks that disagree with a rumor can't think outside the box. There have been lots of rumors that haven't panned out and an Apple HDTV has been a perennial favorite since 2006.