FUD is short for Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt. It does not have to be false. It is distorted in the sense that the most popular App sources for Google are malware free and rooting is neither as widespread nor as dangerous as often repeated.
The burden of proof is on those making the claims -- in this case it would be either Pony Ma or AI. By the way, jragosta, you frequently challenge me to provide evidence, yet you never provide any yourself and never follow up when I do. It's getting boring.
Here are some of the offending apps that have infested the Android App Market aka Google Play with malware:
Falling Down
Super Guitar Solo
Super History Eraser
Photo Editor
Super Ringtone Maker
Super Sex Positions
Hot Sexy Videos
Chess
Hilton Sex Sound
Screaming Sexy Japanese Girls
Falling Ball Dodge
Scientific Calculator
Dice Roller
Advanced Currency Converter
App Uninstaller
Funny Paint
Spider Man
Spy Phone PRO+
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NBA SQUADRE PUZZLE GAME
NFL Puzzle Game
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Cricket World Cup and Teams
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PDASpy app appears to have been downloaded more than 100,000 times. Collectively, the listed apps have been downloaded more millions of times.
Additionally, "NotCompatible" downloads automatically as soon as an Android user browses to a compromised website. according to Lookout.
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Additionally, "NotCompatible" downloads automatically as soon as an Android user browses to a compromised website. according to Lookout.
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I believe we are discussing the present time, not an isolated incident from over an year ago.
Additionally, "NotCompatible" downloads automatically as soon as an Android user browses to a compromised website. according to Lookout.
It doesn't quite happen that way, 'NotCompatible' still needs the user's permission to install onto the phone (meaning anyone who gets infected is an idiot).
The security thing is also distorted somewhat. Let's say I'm a business user, and I have my Android phone securely locked down with passwords, and all the most restrictive options. And I only use my business' software, don't download from the Play store (Lenovo has already created a more restrictive, business-only alternative to Google Play). I'm not going to ever get a virus.
Android is inherently just as secure as any iPhone, and much tougher to hack into. But on Android, security is based on the user's own usage, it's up to them to keep their phone safe.
I believe we are discussing the present time, not an isolated incident from over an year ago.
No. There isn't a defined time frame referenced in the article. Furthermore, Google Android was and still is "Open" which is the primary argument for lack of security in the article.
I should also add that you should check your time frames these were reported last week.
Android is inherently just as secure as any iPhone, and much tougher to hack into. But on Android, security is based on the user's own usage, it's up to them to keep their phone safe.
It doesn't quite happen that way, 'NotCompatible' still needs the user's permission to install onto the phone (meaning anyone who gets infected is an idiot).
I could have told you they were idiots without being infected. They chose a vastly inferior product for a comparable price as the best product available.
No. There isn't a defined time frame referenced in the article. Furthermore, Google Android was and still is "Open" which is the primary argument for lack of security in the article.
Google has taken a plethora of measures since to prevent such incidents from happening again. One was mentioned in this very AI article (Bouncer). If you choose to neglect the development, you're spreading FUD.
I should also add that you should check your time frames these were reported last week.
The examples from your list are over a year old. It doesn't matter if you only heard it yesterday. Here's the link with your list from March 01, 2011:
I could have told you they were idiots without being infected. They chose a vastly inferior product for a comparable price as the best product available.
There are many idiots who choose Android. There are many idiots who choose iOS. There's no casual connection, with idiots it's all random...
Google has taken a plethora of measures since to prevent such incidents from happening again. One was mentioned in this very AI article (Bouncer). If you choose to neglect the development, you're spreading FUD.
The examples from your list are over a year old. It doesn't matter if you only heard it yesterday. Here's the link with your list from March 01, 2011:
Here are some of the offending apps that have infested the Android App Market aka Google Play with malware:
Falling Down
Super Guitar Solo
Super History Eraser
Photo Editor
Super Ringtone Maker
Super Sex Positions
Hot Sexy Videos
Chess
Hilton Sex Sound
Screaming Sexy Japanese Girls
Falling Ball Dodge
Scientific Calculator
Dice Roller
Advanced Currency Converter
App Uninstaller
Funny Paint
Spider Man
Spy Phone PRO+
??????
??????
??????
?????
???
???
NBA SQUADRE PUZZLE GAME
NFL Puzzle Game
????
?????
Cricket World Cup and Teams
??3D
???????
??????
???????
????????
PDASpy app appears to have been downloaded more than 100,000 times. Collectively, the listed apps have been downloaded more millions of times.
Additionally, "NotCompatible" downloads automatically as soon as an Android user browses to a compromised website. according to Lookout.
What did those apps do that qualified as malware?
Note that PDASpy isn't even a Google Play app as far as I can tell. It also apparently does just what it claims to do, which would hardly qualify it as malware in the strictest sense..
BTW, Google Play app downloads are reported to have exceeded 15 billion now. Malware in the official Play Store is but the tiniest of issues based on your numbers (at least so far!), and blown well out of proportion IMO
Let's get something straight. The mobile industry in not on the verge of a major security crisis. The ANDROID ECOSYSTEM only is on the verge, if it hasn't already fallen off the cliff, of a major security crisis.
iOS had how many issues since 2007?? What... 3 or 4 issues? Okay, maybe 5 but I'll give you 6. It's an insult to Apple and iOS to even be mentioned in this article.
Oh, but wait for the android fanboys to have a hissy-fit when they read this. They'll figure out a way to spin this using their childish "open", "root", "blah" reality distortion field to put Android in a good light. Pffft.
I'm not an Android fan at all, but this is still rhetoric. The guy isn't providing real information or details, just a fuzzy opinion. Anyway if they're for a corporate plan, they're most likely locked down to some degree.
Arent jailbroken iPhones susceptible to security attacks? You might frown upon jailbreaking but its a big reason why the secondary market for iPhones is so hugh.
iPhone Jailbreaking Could Crash Cellphone Towers, Apple Claims
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Originally Posted by DrDoppio
FUD is short for Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt. It does not have to be false. It is distorted in the sense that the most popular App sources for Google are malware free and rooting is neither as widespread nor as dangerous as often repeated.
The burden of proof is on those making the claims -- in this case it would be either Pony Ma or AI. By the way, jragosta, you frequently challenge me to provide evidence, yet you never provide any yourself and never follow up when I do. It's getting boring.
Here are some of the offending apps that have infested the Android App Market aka Google Play with malware:
Falling Down
Super Guitar Solo
Super History Eraser
Photo Editor
Super Ringtone Maker
Super Sex Positions
Hot Sexy Videos
Chess
Hilton Sex Sound
Screaming Sexy Japanese Girls
Falling Ball Dodge
Scientific Calculator
Dice Roller
Advanced Currency Converter
App Uninstaller
Funny Paint
Spider Man
Spy Phone PRO+
??????
??????
??????
?????
???
???
NBA SQUADRE PUZZLE GAME
NFL Puzzle Game
????
?????
Cricket World Cup and Teams
??3D
???????
??????
???????
????????
PDASpy app appears to have been downloaded more than 100,000 times. Collectively, the listed apps have been downloaded more millions of times.
Additionally, "NotCompatible" downloads automatically as soon as an Android user browses to a compromised website. according to Lookout.
I believe we are discussing the present time, not an isolated incident from over an year ago.
Quote:
Originally Posted by MacBook Pro
Additionally, "NotCompatible" downloads automatically as soon as an Android user browses to a compromised website. according to Lookout.
It doesn't quite happen that way, 'NotCompatible' still needs the user's permission to install onto the phone (meaning anyone who gets infected is an idiot).
The security thing is also distorted somewhat. Let's say I'm a business user, and I have my Android phone securely locked down with passwords, and all the most restrictive options. And I only use my business' software, don't download from the Play store (Lenovo has already created a more restrictive, business-only alternative to Google Play). I'm not going to ever get a virus.
Android is inherently just as secure as any iPhone, and much tougher to hack into. But on Android, security is based on the user's own usage, it's up to them to keep their phone safe.
Quote:
Originally Posted by DrDoppio
I believe we are discussing the present time, not an isolated incident from over an year ago.
No. There isn't a defined time frame referenced in the article. Furthermore, Google Android was and still is "Open" which is the primary argument for lack of security in the article.
I should also add that you should check your time frames these were reported last week.
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Originally Posted by Mikeb85
Android is inherently just as secure as any iPhone, and much tougher to hack into. But on Android, security is based on the user's own usage, it's up to them to keep their phone safe.
Those two statements contradict each another.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikeb85
It doesn't quite happen that way, 'NotCompatible' still needs the user's permission to install onto the phone (meaning anyone who gets infected is an idiot).
I could have told you they were idiots without being infected. They chose a vastly inferior product for a comparable price as the best product available.
Google has taken a plethora of measures since to prevent such incidents from happening again. One was mentioned in this very AI article (Bouncer). If you choose to neglect the development, you're spreading FUD.
The examples from your list are over a year old. It doesn't matter if you only heard it yesterday. Here's the link with your list from March 01, 2011:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/03/01/the-mother-of-all-android-malware-has-arrived-stolen-apps-released-to-the-market-that-root-your-phone-steal-your-data-and-open-backdoor/
There are many idiots who choose Android. There are many idiots who choose iOS. There's no casual connection, with idiots it's all random...
Quote:
Originally Posted by DrDoppio
Google has taken a plethora of measures since to prevent such incidents from happening again. One was mentioned in this very AI article (Bouncer). If you choose to neglect the development, you're spreading FUD.
The examples from your list are over a year old. It doesn't matter if you only heard it yesterday. Here's the link with your list from March 01, 2011:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/03/01/the-mother-of-all-android-malware-has-arrived-stolen-apps-released-to-the-market-that-root-your-phone-steal-your-data-and-open-backdoor/
No. That list from March 01, 2011 doesn't include many of the apps listed.
Quote:
Originally Posted by MacBook Pro
Here are some of the offending apps that have infested the Android App Market aka Google Play with malware:
Falling Down
Super Guitar Solo
Super History Eraser
Photo Editor
Super Ringtone Maker
Super Sex Positions
Hot Sexy Videos
Chess
Hilton Sex Sound
Screaming Sexy Japanese Girls
Falling Ball Dodge
Scientific Calculator
Dice Roller
Advanced Currency Converter
App Uninstaller
Funny Paint
Spider Man
Spy Phone PRO+
??????
??????
??????
?????
???
???
NBA SQUADRE PUZZLE GAME
NFL Puzzle Game
????
?????
Cricket World Cup and Teams
??3D
???????
??????
???????
????????
PDASpy app appears to have been downloaded more than 100,000 times. Collectively, the listed apps have been downloaded more millions of times.
Additionally, "NotCompatible" downloads automatically as soon as an Android user browses to a compromised website. according to Lookout.
What did those apps do that qualified as malware?
Note that PDASpy isn't even a Google Play app as far as I can tell. It also apparently does just what it claims to do, which would hardly qualify it as malware in the strictest sense..
http://pdaspy.com
BTW, Google Play app downloads are reported to have exceeded 15 billion now. Malware in the official Play Store is but the tiniest of issues based on your numbers (at least so far!), and blown well out of proportion IMO
Oh rly?
Like which ones? Are they still on Google Play?
"Man states the obvious" front page shocker headline.
Wow, what a scoop!
Looking forward to his revelations on how oranges are orange and taste like orange.
Quote:
Originally Posted by sflocal
Let's get something straight. The mobile industry in not on the verge of a major security crisis. The ANDROID ECOSYSTEM only is on the verge, if it hasn't already fallen off the cliff, of a major security crisis.
iOS had how many issues since 2007?? What... 3 or 4 issues? Okay, maybe 5 but I'll give you 6. It's an insult to Apple and iOS to even be mentioned in this article.
Oh, but wait for the android fanboys to have a hissy-fit when they read this. They'll figure out a way to spin this using their childish "open", "root", "blah" reality distortion field to put Android in a good light. Pffft.
I'm not an Android fan at all, but this is still rhetoric. The guy isn't providing real information or details, just a fuzzy opinion. Anyway if they're for a corporate plan, they're most likely locked down to some degree.
Quote:
Originally Posted by dasanman69
Arent jailbroken iPhones susceptible to security attacks? You might frown upon jailbreaking but its a big reason why the secondary market for iPhones is so hugh.
iPhone Jailbreaking Could Crash Cellphone Towers, Apple Claims
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/07/jailbreak/
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Originally Posted by dasanman69
I beg to differ, rooting ones phone isnt as easy as jailbreaking in most cases.
You may beg. I will allow it.