Remember 2007 and 2008 where no one thought Apple was going to make ANY kind of dent in Japan?
I wonder if the Japanese App Store has apps that tap into local networks to give the iPhone the features of standard Japanese phones. You know, the ability to buy things from vending machines with your phone, the ability to control volume of local projectors… all that neat stuff that people refuse to BUILD OUT HERE FOR WHATEVER IDIOTIC REASON.
I remember those dire predictions and actually believed them. Wow, iOS and Android have 99% of the market in Japan. That means Microsoft may have bragging rights to third place. Baller must be bouncing off the walls with glee. :-)
Same as the last market share stats announced: People pick Android phones more than 2 to 1 over iPhones.
You are assuming that everyone in Japan has the ability to pick both phones from all carriers. The largest carrier (over 50% of the market) does not yet have iPhones to pick from. Nor do many of the small carriers. So when you get down to the carriers that have both OSs to pick from, the overwhelming choice is iOS... almost exclusively!
This is the first time I've responded to you're terrible misinformed lack of logic, and may be the last. Just know that your so completely lacking in the ability to do critical thinking, and my choice in not usually responding only means that I pay that much total disregard for what ever you are blathering on about.
The Japanese hate Microsoft products for some reason.
Nonsense. Japan, like anywhere else, is a Microsoft-centric miniverse. Every single Japanese PC maker loads its machines with Windows. Big enterprises are based on Windows PCs and servers, with ActiveDirectory and Exchange and all the usual Windows-based middleware and applications. The Japanese government runs on Windows. Consumers use mostly Windows PCs. Internet Explorer is the most-used PC browser. The whole country happily trampled over home-grown productivity pioneers, like JustSystems' Ichitaro word processor, in its stampede to standardize on MS Office.
(Then again… We could note that just because people in Japan mostly use Microsoft products, that doesn't mean they don't also hate those products. : ) But they sure don't seem to hate the products any more than the rest of the world does.)
Anyway, it's great to see Apple and Google starting to change things in Japan (and everywhere) from the mobile side!
As usual... iHaters, trolls, whiners...etc... where are you guys that were telling everyone that the iPhone would be a total failure in Japan?? Waiting... hmmm... room seems strangely quiet. I guess they are all at the diner down the road eating a big load of humble pie.
Correct... and "Android phones" is made up of tons of models from a dozen different manufacturers.
This article is good news for Apple in Japan... which is a highly competitive mobile phone market... and one that people thought Apple would never have decent sales in.
Can't you be happy for Apple on this Apple forum?
Android is still leading over Apple. It does not matter how matter Android models they have. Their Android ecosystem is larger.
So basically in 2011 their market share went up 3.3 %points even though KDDI had the iPhone just for the last quarter of the year. Back of the envelope says iPhone had over 40 % in Q4 2011. And that's without DoCoMo, who still controls over half of the phone market and only sells Android today. But the longer DoCoMo waits, the more customers they will lose to the 2 smaller carriers. Once Apple cracks DoCoMo, the iPhone will dominate Android in Japan by 70:30, not the other way around.
So true. When Docomo starts selling iPhone, the game is over. Non-Japanese Android (Samsung, HTC, etc) can go home.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Remember 2007 and 2008 where no one thought Apple was going to make ANY kind of dent in Japan?
I wonder if the Japanese App Store has apps that tap into local networks to give the iPhone the features of standard Japanese phones. You know, the ability to buy things from vending machines with your phone, the ability to control volume of local projectors… all that neat stuff that people refuse to BUILD OUT HERE FOR WHATEVER IDIOTIC REASON.
I remember those dire predictions and actually believed them. Wow, iOS and Android have 99% of the market in Japan. That means Microsoft may have bragging rights to third place. Baller must be bouncing off the walls with glee. :-)
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Originally Posted by Macky the Macky
That means Microsoft may have bragging rights to third place. Baller must be bouncing off the walls with glee. :-)
The Japanese hate Microsoft products for some reason. Weekly sales of the Xbox 360 over there are only in the triple digits.
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Originally Posted by I am a Zither Zather Zuzz
Same as the last market share stats announced: People pick Android phones more than 2 to 1 over iPhones.
You are assuming that everyone in Japan has the ability to pick both phones from all carriers. The largest carrier (over 50% of the market) does not yet have iPhones to pick from. Nor do many of the small carriers. So when you get down to the carriers that have both OSs to pick from, the overwhelming choice is iOS... almost exclusively!
This is the first time I've responded to you're terrible misinformed lack of logic, and may be the last. Just know that your so completely lacking in the ability to do critical thinking, and my choice in not usually responding only means that I pay that much total disregard for what ever you are blathering on about.
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Originally Posted by Macky the Macky
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Originally Posted by I am a Zither Zather Zuzz
Same as the last market share stats announced: People pick Android phones more than 2 to 1 over iPhones.
You are assuming that everyone in Japan has the ability to pick both phones from all carriers.
Nope.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
The Japanese hate Microsoft products for some reason.
Nonsense. Japan, like anywhere else, is a Microsoft-centric miniverse. Every single Japanese PC maker loads its machines with Windows. Big enterprises are based on Windows PCs and servers, with ActiveDirectory and Exchange and all the usual Windows-based middleware and applications. The Japanese government runs on Windows. Consumers use mostly Windows PCs. Internet Explorer is the most-used PC browser. The whole country happily trampled over home-grown productivity pioneers, like JustSystems' Ichitaro word processor, in its stampede to standardize on MS Office.
(Then again… We could note that just because people in Japan mostly use Microsoft products, that doesn't mean they don't also hate those products. : ) But they sure don't seem to hate the products any more than the rest of the world does.)
Anyway, it's great to see Apple and Google starting to change things in Japan (and everywhere) from the mobile side!
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Originally Posted by sflocal
As usual... iHaters, trolls, whiners...etc... where are you guys that were telling everyone that the iPhone would be a total failure in Japan?? Waiting... hmmm... room seems strangely quiet. I guess they are all at the diner down the road eating a big load of humble pie.
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Originally Posted by Michael Scrip
Correct... and "Android phones" is made up of tons of models from a dozen different manufacturers.
This article is good news for Apple in Japan... which is a highly competitive mobile phone market... and one that people thought Apple would never have decent sales in.
Can't you be happy for Apple on this Apple forum?
Android is still leading over Apple. It does not matter how matter Android models they have. Their Android ecosystem is larger.
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Originally Posted by reverie
So basically in 2011 their market share went up 3.3 %points even though KDDI had the iPhone just for the last quarter of the year. Back of the envelope says iPhone had over 40 % in Q4 2011. And that's without DoCoMo, who still controls over half of the phone market and only sells Android today. But the longer DoCoMo waits, the more customers they will lose to the 2 smaller carriers. Once Apple cracks DoCoMo, the iPhone will dominate Android in Japan by 70:30, not the other way around.
So true. When Docomo starts selling iPhone, the game is over. Non-Japanese Android (Samsung, HTC, etc) can go home.