Steve Jobs wanted to build 'iCar,' Apple board member says

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  • Reply 61 of 95
    pembrokepembroke Posts: 231member


    I was hoping that Apple would have a crack at something completely different - like designing and building a car. With billions in the chest this is something they can afford to do. There's no reason Apple should concentrate solely on developments in the computer sector. 



    Besides occasionally buying other companies outright, does the company have significant holdings in companies in any other emerging sectors? 

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  • Reply 62 of 95
    jragostajragosta Posts: 10,473member
    pembroke wrote: »
    Give nothing back to society? That's astonishingly myopic.


    > There are upwards of 50,000 people who have a means of living by working for Apple, since when are they not part of society? That's some 50,000 that work for Apple, that doesn't include the people who work for Apple suppliers. 


    > The billions in taxes paid by Apple, how has that not benefited society? 

     "In Apple’s last annual disclosure, the company listed its worldwide taxes — which includes cash taxes paid as well as deferred taxes and other charges — at $8.3bn [£5bn], an effective tax rate of almost a quarter of profits."


    Yes, but you're not really giving something back to society unless you're a bunch of relentless publicity-mongers like Greenpeace. /s
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  • Reply 63 of 95
    jousterjouster Posts: 460member
    [CODE][/CODE]He wouldn't have been the first computer industry guy to try. Sir Clive Sinclair had a crack at this in the mid 80s, though I guess calling it a car was stretching the definition. Calling it a huge failure wasn't, though. It was Sinclair's main interest; much more so than the Spectrum 8-bit computer that made him rich...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinclair_C5
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  • Reply 64 of 95
    ankleskaterankleskater Posts: 1,287member


    An iCar would be a cube van with nicely rounded corners and edges :)

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  • Reply 65 of 95
    kibitzerkibitzer Posts: 1,114member
    msimpson wrote: »
    And they would be built in China by FoxConn and made from Liquid Metal.

    But it would have a "Designed in California by Apple" badge, elegantly lettered and in an inconspicuous location on the instrument panel.
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  • Reply 66 of 95
    kibitzerkibitzer Posts: 1,114member
    WHERE is the rear window in that car?!

    It's an Apple. You don't have to look back.

    It would need one if it were a Microsoft, because the steering wheel and driver's seat would be pointed in the opposite direction.
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  • Reply 67 of 95


    He is still a board member.

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  • Reply 68 of 95
    zoetmbzoetmb Posts: 2,657member


    "Hey..wha?....the car isn't responding....utoh......oh geez.....SCREECH.........Crash!"


     


    "You're driving it wrong".

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  • Reply 69 of 95
    techguy911techguy911 Posts: 269member
    50% of the market?! That is so absurd even he must have known it was BS when he said it.
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  • Reply 70 of 95
    echosonicechosonic Posts: 462member


    I dont have a particular idea, but Steve chose to drive an AMG MBZ.  I've never been in the model he owned, but I'd be curious what features it has to see what sort of lifestyle he was used to.


     


    That he drove such a precision piece of machinery and was still so unhappy he wanted to design a car says a lot....

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  • Reply 71 of 95
    kibitzerkibitzer Posts: 1,114member

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    Originally Posted by echosonic View Post


    That he drove such a precision piece of machinery and was still so unhappy he wanted to design a car says a lot....



     


    Precision may not have been the issue for him, because the AMG certainly is among the best of its lot. Although he drove a Porsche 928 before Mercedes, he had this to say according to Walter Isaacson in Steve Jobs:


     


    “Great art stretches the taste, it doesn’t follow tastes,” he told Atkinson. He also admired the design of the Mercedes. “Over the years, they’ve made the lines softer but the details starker,” he said one day as he walked around the parking lot. “That’s what we have to do with the Macintosh.”


     


    Isaacson, Walter (2011-10-24). Steve Jobs (p. 128). Simon & Schuster, Inc.. Kindle Edition


     


    As to automobiles in general, Jobs may have had creative, game-changing thoughts about how to take them to an entirely new level.
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  • Reply 72 of 95

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    WHERE is the rear window in that car?!


     


     



    Windows? We don't need no stinkin' Windows!

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  • Reply 73 of 95
    ankleskaterankleskater Posts: 1,287member


    Drexler misunderstood. Jobs was saying "I care".

     

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  • Reply 74 of 95


    Tesla Motors.

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  • Reply 77 of 95
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member

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    Originally Posted by James Bond View Post

    Tesla Motors.


     


    They do have the potential to be the Apple of cars.


     


    Hopefully they won't screw it up. I'd like to see them collaborate with Apple engineers on battery tech. Get something out there that is decades ahead of the competition. 

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  • Reply 78 of 95
    tipootipoo Posts: 1,166member


    Replacing all the buttons with one huge touch screen seems like something an iCar would do. 



    tesla-model-s-interior-screen.jpeg

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  • Reply 79 of 95
    felix01felix01 Posts: 301member


    It baffled me for awhile trying to understand what Mickey Drexler...the Gap merchant prince, the guy who practically invented casual chic, was expected to bring to the table as an Apple Inc board member. And then the light bulb came on. He and Jobs were 'buds' so Drexler wasn't necessarily bringing any special expertise to the Apple executive decision-making process. Jobs was on the Gap board while CEO at Apple so putting Mickey on the Apple board was a bit of an incestuous relationship. Jobs gave Drexler advance warning of his impending firing even though the Gap internal board discussions were strictly confidential. Those two had a more personal relationship which went beyond their business spheres.


     


    OTOH, Drexler's known for making marketing decisions with his gut...not market research and MBA spreadsheets with fancy graphs. <Sound like anyone else you've read about?> He's a retailing maverick; albeit, in the clothing business. And most of the time was right, especially among the younger crowd who put the iPod on the map; made his shareholders wealthy.


     


    But then he called a couple wrong, got crosswise with the board and was abruptly canned, quickly landing on his feet again at J.Crew.


     


    The parallels go on and on.


     


    Drexler's a bit of a loose cannon though so it doesn't surprise me one bit to hear him say Steve Jobs wanted to build an 'iCar' when in actuality all Jobs may have done was just mention in passing...merely making conversation...that he could design a better looking car than anything currently coming out of automative design studios. 


     


    He reportedly designed an 'iYacht' too but that doesn't mean he was going to start producing them beyond the one that's being built in France to his specs.

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  • Reply 80 of 95

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    Originally Posted by Felix01 View Post


    Drexler's a bit of a loose cannon though so it doesn't surprise me one bit to hear him say Steve Jobs wanted to build an 'iCar' when in actuality all Jobs may have done was just mention in passing...merely making conversation...that he could design a better looking car than anything currently coming out of automative design studios. 


     


    He reportedly designed an 'iYacht' too but that doesn't mean he was going to start producing them beyond the one that's being built in France to his specs.



     


    I thought so too. Several anecdotes from Isaacson's bio made me think that Steve had no "off" switch; that he was hardwired to think of ways to improve anything that crossed his field of view. 

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